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[Leaser Resael]

The prothean and eden prime was in the leaked script which bioware said many times that was really "old". It wasn't completed until after the main game? Yeah right...

[N7Infernox]

DK Valk wrote...

The unfortunate thing is people will never understand that this might not have been made in the first place if their was no such thing as DLC, but when people see that there's additional content to be purchased on LAUNCH DAY, you can't blame them for having oversight and being upset.

I mean if this was a set of DLC that wasnt in the CE and was being released much later (due to being unable to complete the dlc for launch day), it might have been more understandable.

[Eragondragonrider]

YAY MY CE Edition became 10x better because I get it for FREE!!!

[Candidate 88766]

Dionkey wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

$60 - bargain
$70 - OUTRAGE

You clearly missed the part where I pointed out that you're paying for 1/6 of the price of the game for not even 1/20 of the content.

On its own, the DLC seems expensively priced.

However, given that ME3 itself is going to have great value for money content-wise, I don't get the uproar. If $60 for ME3 is a really good deal, then surely $70 for ME3 is still a pretty good deal - and you get an extra character.

[Ninjapino]

Dionkey wrote...

Going to re-post this from the other thread, hope y'all don't mind.
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Please, let me explain this to you:

Mass Effect 3 is $60
One play-through is said to take 18-24 hours (or around ME2's length).
That means you're getting 1 hour of content for $3, never mind NewGame+

FINE! That's fantastic! That's what a game should be!

However, the DLC chracter is $10.
That means we should expect at least 3-4 hours of content out of that character. We all know that the missions included with these characters are usually 20-30 minutes, along with a bit of dialogue.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. If we paid $10 per squaddie, you wouldn't even have a full crew at $60. How would you like buying the game, getting Garrus, Ashley, Vega, Liara, Tali, and The Prothean, and then that's it? No missions, no story, no cutscenes, etc. With this kind of logic, that's exactly what you'd get!

Do you realize how contored this is? Not only this, but the content was finished BEFORE the game went gold, which means they DELIBERATELY removed important content from the game to OVERPRICE it and sell it later.

A)It's not just for a character.  It's for a character, a new mission, new weapon, and new outfits.  It's extra content.  Not part of the main package.  It's something extra that if you want, you pay for.  You don't need it.  It will provide nothing more then extra enjoyment for you.  If you are against it or don't care, don't spend the extra $10.  You will still have a full game. 

On top of that, gaming prices are generally set as a standard.  I'm not sure how much money total went into ME3, but at $60 I'm pretty sure that they have to know that they'll have to sell a lot in order to make an actual profit.  They also know that DLC will not sell to everyone who bought the game in general.  So, to make up for the difference of what it cost vs how many people are willing to buy it, the price will be a little higher, simply becase some people don't care to buy it no matter what the price is.  And, yes, EA likes money.  That is a small part of it.  But so do most companies. 

[Razorsedge820]

Sounds awesome and thanks for the clarification but people are still going to whine about. I however understand why it has a price, don't worry Bioware as much as they say they will boycott the game and never buy another Bioware product in the end it's all BS.

[bboynexus]

I think Mike's wording is very deliberate here:

SQUAD MATE.

Not CHARACTER.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Thanks, Mike. This is pretty much the horse I was already beating to death in the other thread.

Prothy was developed for the CE, there you have it, folks.

Also, $10 is not too bad, considering Kasumi was around $7 and Prothy's file is bigger than hers by 100-150 MB. (I don't have the numbers right in front of me, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)

[Arcadian Legend]

Does this also come with the robo dog, or is that CE only?

/curious

[Aargh12]

Leaser Resael wrote...

The prothean and eden prime was in the leaked script which bioware said many times that was really "old". It wasn't completed until after the main game? Yeah right...

Why do I get the feeling that actually nothing was changed in the script except for cutting some stuff to save for a DLC later?

[Kog27]

Michael Gamble wrote...

As most of you know, yesterday there was a leak that revealed the upcoming DLC “ME3:From Ashes” on the
Xbox LIVE Marketplace. This leak took place before we were prepared to make an announcement about the details of that pack (slated for this Friday). 

There has been a lot of discussion about the DLC offering but we wanted to clarify a few things... 

- “From Ashes” includes the Prothean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate
appearance for every squad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are in addition to the ones already advertised in the CE.

- The Collectors Edition has been advertised from the beginning as containing a bonus character/mission, but we were not at liberty to provide the details. The Prothean is optional content that is certainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of the CE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase).  Mass Effect 3 is a complete – and a huge game - right out of the box.

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

- The Collectors Edition has been sold out in most places for some time now, and is becoming very hard to find (many players prefer not to purchase the digital version). As such, we wanted to make this content available so that SE buyers could also incorporate the Prothean into their game.

We’ll be releasing someimages and video about this pack in the coming days.

As always, we are extremely thankful for all of your support. We pulled out all of the stops to make Mass Effect 3 the best game ever, and we can't wait for you all to experience it.

Mike


 

Shame on you, thats all I can say

[mrbauxjangles]

Dionkey wrote...

msmpsn wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

Going to re-post this from the other thread, hope y'all don't mind.
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Please, let me explain this to you:

Mass Effect 3 is $60
One play-through is said to take 18-24 hours (or around ME2's length).
That means you're getting 1 hour of content for $3, never mind NewGame+

FINE! That's fantastic! That's what a game should be!

However, the DLC chracter is $10.
That means we should expect at least 3-4 hours of content out of that character. We all know that the missions included with these characters are usually 20-30 minutes, along with a bit of dialogue.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. If we paid $10 per squaddie, you wouldn't even have a full crew at $60. How would you like buying the game, getting Garrus, Ashley, Vega, Liara, Tali, and The Prothean, and then that's it? No missions, no story, no cutscenes, etc. With this kind of logic, that's exactly what you'd get!

Do you realize how contored this is? Not only this, but the content was finished BEFORE the game went gold, which means they DELIBERATELY removed important content from the game to OVERPRICE it and sell it later.

How about you read what he said?

What else is there to reread? The part where it said that it was finished after tha game went gold? That's BS and you know it. 

It is BS the game has sound files in it already proving the squadmate was a huge deal in the main game.

[AxisEvolve]

Niiiice. Sounds like we get a lot more for the price.

EDIT: reading fail. sorry.

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 22 février 2012 - 10:47 .

[stylepoints]

You are taking a very important lore item that is already coded into the game and nickel and diming us, It's abhorable. I won't be buying the game and I hope nobody else does either. Online passes are one thing, this is absolutely disgusting.

This isn't cosmetic, it isn't something small. Imagine having to pay 10 dollars to talk to sovereign in ME1. Sure, you could get through the game, but you would be missing a chunk of the lore. Imagine having to pay 10 dollars to get legion in mass effect 2, it's absolutely absurd.

Modifié par stylepoints, 22 février 2012 - 10:48 .

[saturos2]

HiroVoid wrote...

If it was developed after the core game, how come there are dialogue files for the Prothean in the leaks?

Anyway, the images and video should be interesting.

Edit: Also, while I don't agree with selling a full character separately, it is certainly true that the optional character has been announced exclusive for CE for a while now.

This^

[ojha18]

Hey
You said that the alternate appearance pack with the from ashes DLC was in addition to what we get in the CE. So because the from ashes DLC is included in the CE do we also get the complete alternate appearance pack?

[Dionkey]

TheOptimist wrote...

It's perfectly acceptable.  The character is not essential to the story.  He is, and always was, planned as an add on DLC, as we have known since the first advertisements for the collectors edition came out.  When they produced him is irrelevant.  They produced a game with content X that they will sell for $60.  This character is add on content Y, which is for sale for $10 more or included for free in the CE.  If they cut up the game into a bunch of little pieces, as you apparently fear, then it becomes unplayable and no one buys it.  IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE DLC, DO NOT BUY IT.  But you are not entitled to a piece of content they have deemed as extra just because of when it was produced. 

 Listen, I'm 99.9^% that they're going to write-off the Protheans with this character, so any history or questions that need to be answered will be answered by this character. He is a critical part of the major races in the universe and is much more vital than someone like Zaeed or Kasumi.

TheOptimist wrote... 
Let me ask you a serious question.  If they'd kept this under raps and released it 3 months after the initial game, would you still be so upset?  I rather doubt it.  The only reason people care is because of when they THINK the DLC was made in conjunction with the real game (whether or not that has any basis in reality).  I predict that in the future, Bioware will do exactly that, denying us content we could have had earlier but for the whining of people like you, who apparently believe they have some god given right to content that the developer has decided is not part of the core game.

That could be said about any DLC released afterwards, so that's just a strawman argument. The fact of the matter is that they made this DLC and had it planned long before they finished, and instead decided to make huge amounts of profit off it, knowing that most of you guys will defend it to the death.

I'm a BioWare fan, not an EA fan.

[Candidate 88766]

AxisEvolve wrote...

Niiiice. Sounds like we get a lot more for the price.

But is the appearance pack the same as the CE's?

In addition to those ones, so CE owners get the full set.

[JamesShepard777]

The evidence is there for how early this has been planned, and there is essentially zero possibility that it started development after the core game was finished. Even if it was, the fact that it has been completed prior to launch means that it should have been on the disc to begin with. You do not cut content from a game in order to sell it to a limited number of individuals. You also do not backpedal when you're found out and decide "oh well we were going to release it to everybody anyway...for a price" and expect all consumers to be happy. Piecemeal production is NOT acceptable. This is essentially the same as what would have happened if Obsidian had managed to finish KOTOR 2 and then decided to charge for M4 and the HK-47 plotline anyway.

[N7Infernox]

AxisEvolve wrote...

Niiiice. Sounds like we get a lot more for the price.

But is the appearance pack the same as the CE's?

He said "in addition", so more outfits I think.

[k177sh0t]

Should've picked a different type of dlc on the first place

TotalBiscuit was kinda of right

[Yuoaman]

Daywalker315 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

So are the Reapers going to also be DLC? I mean, since they're as inconsequential as the Protheans to the lore of the universe...

Really? Come on ... One Prothean who may or may not already be in the game as a non-squad mate for story purposes (I'm not sure but I'd expect he is) and you compare it to the big bad for the series being DLC? You're not making a very good argument if you're trying to stoke the fire.

He is most definitely not already in the game - and the Protheans are a freaking big deal in the Mass Effect universe, and were a big deal even before you discovered the Reapers. Without the Prothean beacon the entire plot of the first game would have never been started.

[AxisEvolve]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

Niiiice. Sounds like we get a lot more for the price.

But is the appearance pack the same as the CE's?

In addition to those ones, so CE owners get the full set.

Yeah I got too excited and speed-read it. My fault.

[J.amber]

Dionkey wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

$60 - bargain
$70 - OUTRAGE

You clearly missed the part where I pointed out that you're paying for 1/6 of the price of the game for not even 1/20 of the content.

and who's forcing you to buy it, dlc is optional ... that's the thing, all this whiney stuff over something that one doesn't even need to finish the actual game and if $10 is gonna break someone's bank, then perhaps it's a good idea to not even consider buying DLC <_<

[Icematt12]

Thats why I dont believe people when they say games have "gone gold" only a couple of weeks before launch. By that time the finished product should be in boxes somewhere in the distribution chain.