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Trololololo

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MissOuJ

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_symphony wrote...

MageCeridan wrote...
errrm do you know the meaning of the word Mandatory? is it a too big word for you? Ok then let me rephrase that.

Can you complete the game without it?
Yes?
There it's not an hidden cost.

This is rubbish, you can also complete any mass effect game with only two squadmates. The important thing about prothy is that he's a prothean, that's the issue, nobody would be making this fuss if it was another Zaeed or Kasumi.


Exactly.

I paid €20 extra beforehand, without knowing much about the extra character - I had faith that BioWare would give me something awesome, and I took a gamble.

Now that my gamble has actually paid off, a bunch of people say they shoud get it for free. If it had been just another mercenary aka Zaeed 2.0 nobody would care.

And the funny thing is, the SE edition buyers still have the best deal. Don't care for the extra junk that comes with the CE? Still want the Prothean squadmate? Just pay $10 extra! It's cheaper than buying the CE.

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MissOuJ wrote...

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

After all, they're asking us for our money, they aren't entitled to it.  If the integrity of their business practices doesn't matter to them, their bottom line certainly does.



Nor are you entitled to get content for free. You're not even entitled to games, period. They're luxury items you can choose to spend your money on if you wish, and claiming you're entitled to have DLC for free for a game you haven't even bought yet is pretty unreasonable, from where I'm standing.

 



I don't agree with playable characters  sold to me Collectors Edition Exclusive and  Day 1 paid for DLC .. Thats what Bioware is saying the are going to be selling to me as a consumer okay.. I the consumer with the disposable income that I have... choose not  to support that policy and business  buy  not buying the game. They don't have to give me anything for free...just like I don't have give them my money for the goods they offer.  More correctly in this case buy there games new off the store self.  Instead I will get the my Bioware games used.

Entitlement doesn't have anything to do with it... hell they could offer it free the next and that still won't change my veiw on it.  

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AlanC9 wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

I keep asking why a prothean would be so important.  I never get a coherent answer.

I gave an answer, he's "alive"; personally I don't care if he's jesus or a janitor, he is ALIVE.


Like I said, I never get a coherent answer.

He's alive. So fracking what?


You obviously never played Mass Effect 1.


Don't be silly. It's ME1 that shows how the protheans aren't special. They're just the most recent in a long line of Reaper victims.




good lord... you cannot be serious. Why cloud them in mystery and have a DLC on a survivor then?

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Wow never knew there was alternate outfits/new missions. Now, my Squadmates with have 3 different outfits. Very happy. Thanks BW.

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Yuoaman wrote...

Aword wrote...

This forum is nothing but a big stalemate. No one here has played the game to prove is this vital to the story or not, and just to say that I hardly think that this prothean is the ONLY prothean alive.


He is the only Prothean, I'm sorry but this is known to be true - it's a major part of his backstory.

Can you prove this, give me a link or something that proves what you say.

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geertmans wrote...

Trololololo


And we have a winner

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blueruin wrote...

http://i.imgur.com/m77S3.png

If that chart is true, then I guess I understand. It's still annoying and I still hate EA, but I understand.


So what you are saying is that We as the Consumer have no say, and should take what ever they want to give us. Take it or leave it.

Developers can do whatever they want, as long as they make a statement that its " working as intended" " was developed by other people" or " after certification" 

Here is an Idea, to help Bioware milk more money, they should totally make Tali , Garrus  and Liara an DLC that after 1 mission in the Core of the game where you can use them, and inorder to continue to use them as an Squadmate, you have to pay 10 dollars or they just sit at Normandy.

Because they can, and we will still buy them without a second thought.

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300!

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The priiiiizee

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MageCeridan wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

fropas wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

a game is complete when its burn and send to x quantity of game retailers, but that doesnt mean that game itself could have been made complete just because it has already *gone gold* do you understand that ? also understand that developers they never gonna tell you the real truth behind their own words and what they do about the game they develop. its a pretty nasty enviroment.


Developers lie? Unlike consumers who are trying to get content they haven't paid for?


what content we havent paid for ? who says we havent paid for that already ? oh rigth the developers....the ones that gives us sweeties with lies and we take them easy without even questioning, like the tale of the dont trust strangers.:wizard:


Ok. CE was announced to have access to a bonus Character + mission. Does that paid for said version paid for it.

Later on, Bioware announced that the Bonus character+mission would be available to SE buyers as a DLC.

If you bougth the CE/DDE version then you paid for said content, if you bougth the SE version, you did NOT pay for said version.

/case.


The CE/DDE comes with several other bonuses, at no point did it say that the character would be exclusive, just that it would be included with the game.

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Why does this entire thread feel like the sword master fight in Secret of Monkey Island - 'I am rubber, you are glue'

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Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

Wow never knew there was alternate outfits/new missions. Now, my Squadmates with have 3 different outfits. Very happy. Thanks BW.


The dlc has a good amount of content. I can't wait to see all the alt. outffits.

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Blarty wrote...

Why does this entire thread feel like the sword master fight in Secret of Monkey Island - 'I am rubber, you are glue'


Because it pretty much is?

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Yuoaman wrote...

MageCeridan wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

fropas wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

a game is complete when its burn and send to x quantity of game retailers, but that doesnt mean that game itself could have been made complete just because it has already *gone gold* do you understand that ? also understand that developers they never gonna tell you the real truth behind their own words and what they do about the game they develop. its a pretty nasty enviroment.


Developers lie? Unlike consumers who are trying to get content they haven't paid for?


what content we havent paid for ? who says we havent paid for that already ? oh rigth the developers....the ones that gives us sweeties with lies and we take them easy without even questioning, like the tale of the dont trust strangers.:wizard:


Ok. CE was announced to have access to a bonus Character + mission. Does that paid for said version paid for it.

Later on, Bioware announced that the Bonus character+mission would be available to SE buyers as a DLC.

If you bougth the CE/DDE version then you paid for said content, if you bougth the SE version, you did NOT pay for said version.

/case.


The CE/DDE comes with several other bonuses, at no point did it say that the character would be exclusive, just that it would be included with the game.


WaAAAAAAH? they didn't lie then? (head explodes)Posted Image

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woods26 wrote...

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

Wow never knew there was alternate outfits/new missions. Now, my Squadmates with have 3 different outfits. Very happy. Thanks BW.


The dlc has a good amount of content. I can't wait to see all the alt. outffits.


It's amazing what you find out , even though you pre-ordered just for the CE.

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Blarty wrote...

Why does this entire thread feel like the sword master fight in Secret of Monkey Island - 'I am rubber, you are glue'

You fight like a cow!

Modifié par _symphony, 24 février 2012 - 06:51 .


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Novate wrote...

blueruin wrote...

http://i.imgur.com/m77S3.png

If that chart is true, then I guess I understand. It's still annoying and I still hate EA, but I understand.


So what you are saying is that We as the Consumer have no say, and should take what ever they want to give us. Take it or leave it. .


What ever said that we do have a say in anything? You don't order an aurthor of a book around to write material and you don't tell a director of a play/movie what to do. In the long run it is all up to them and if they want advice or consideration from their fans they are free to do so. It is statements like you just made which paint fans of anything into a bad light and make us sound nothing more than a pack of selfish children.

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Yuoaman wrote...

MageCeridan wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

fropas wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

a game is complete when its burn and send to x quantity of game retailers, but that doesnt mean that game itself could have been made complete just because it has already *gone gold* do you understand that ? also understand that developers they never gonna tell you the real truth behind their own words and what they do about the game they develop. its a pretty nasty enviroment.


Developers lie? Unlike consumers who are trying to get content they haven't paid for?


what content we havent paid for ? who says we havent paid for that already ? oh rigth the developers....the ones that gives us sweeties with lies and we take them easy without even questioning, like the tale of the dont trust strangers.:wizard:


Ok. CE was announced to have access to a bonus Character + mission. Does that paid for said version paid for it.

Later on, Bioware announced that the Bonus character+mission would be available to SE buyers as a DLC.

If you bougth the CE/DDE version then you paid for said content, if you bougth the SE version, you did NOT pay for said version.

/case.


The CE/DDE comes with several other bonuses, at no point did it say that the character would be exclusive, just that it would be included with the game.


Right, they never said it was exclusive because they planned on selling it as day 1 DLC for SE buyers.

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_symphony wrote...

Blarty wrote...

Why does this entire thread feel like the sword master fight in Secret of Monkey Island - 'I am rubber, you are glue'

You fight like a cow!


You fight like a dairy farmer!

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Yuoaman wrote...

MageCeridan wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

fropas wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

a game is complete when its burn and send to x quantity of game retailers, but that doesnt mean that game itself could have been made complete just because it has already *gone gold* do you understand that ? also understand that developers they never gonna tell you the real truth behind their own words and what they do about the game they develop. its a pretty nasty enviroment.


Developers lie? Unlike consumers who are trying to get content they haven't paid for?


what content we havent paid for ? who says we havent paid for that already ? oh rigth the developers....the ones that gives us sweeties with lies and we take them easy without even questioning, like the tale of the dont trust strangers.:wizard:


Ok. CE was announced to have access to a bonus Character + mission. Does that paid for said version paid for it.

Later on, Bioware announced that the Bonus character+mission would be available to SE buyers as a DLC.

If you bougth the CE/DDE version then you paid for said content, if you bougth the SE version, you did NOT pay for said version.

/case.


The CE/DDE comes with several other bonuses, at no point did it say that the character would be exclusive, just that it would be included with the game.

Agreed, so that's why I wonder why people are so angry about being able to pay for a bonus content from the CE/DDE (ofcourse, I will repeat that I bought the DDE maintly for the soundtrack since I knew that + all the other stuff would be worth it).

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Yuoaman wrote...

The CE/DDE comes with several other bonuses, at no point did it say that the character would be exclusive, just that it would be included with the game.


However, it was said that CE&DDE included an extra character and mission.

And extra = something SE buyers need to pay separatedly to obtain. I can't really say I have a problem with this.

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woods26 wrote...

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

Wow never knew there was alternate outfits/new missions. Now, my Squadmates with have 3 different outfits. Very happy. Thanks BW.


The dlc has a good amount of content. I can't wait to see all the alt. outffits.

Me too, bettert not be simple recolours though -.-

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gabe2gg wrote...

good lord... you cannot be serious. Why cloud them in mystery and have a DLC on a survivor then?


You (and some others) seem to have forgotten that the Protheans mysterious and revered among the ME Universe because all people THINK they built the ME Relays and everything else. (then we have their uplifting of the Hanar, but ah well...)

But WE know they were just another alien race that got reaped by the Reapers. Of course, they succeeded in screwing with their plans for the next cycle, but that´s it.
I don´t know if Prothean tech will be the key to destroying the Reapers, but even then, this particular Prothean won´t be someone who to have this tech/knowledge.

I do understand what everybody is on about, he IS a prothean. But get over yourselves. Bioware can decide for themselves what´s vital for the game and what´s not...

Guess we´ll have to play the DLC to see if they were wrong or right, but I choose to take their word for it.

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

woods26 wrote...

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

Wow
never knew there was alternate outfits/new missions. Now, my Squadmates
with have 3 different outfits. Very happy. Thanks BW.


The dlc has a good amount of content. I can't wait to see all the alt. outffits.

Me too, but not be simple recolours though -.-


I sign this as well =]

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Genshie wrote...

Its DGAF dude. *points toward signature*  What you are doing is rather childish youself. We are not bragging most of us got a pre-orders ages ago like 2011 in July ages ago. 


 
Yeah, I'm not a “dude”. It doesn't matter that you got the pre-order in July, the signature was made yesterday because of this very thread. It's incendiary and you know it. You wouldn't have the DGAF on it if it were otherwise. People calling you biodrone to get a rise out of you is wrong, but don't pretend you're any better by doing childish in-your-face tactics such as that banner.