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[ProtoMan 2.0]

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

Wow never knew there was alternate outfits/new missions. Now, my Squadmates with have 3 different outfits. Very happy. Thanks BW.

Every sqadmate also starts off with 2 alternate outfits.

[fropas]

MissOuJ wrote...

biowaregeek wrote...


Mass Effect 3 N7 Collector's Edition IS $80 BUCKS by the time all of the dlc is released how much will the game cost us? $140? for the game thanks bioware.

I'm paying €90 for my CE alone; that's about $120 according to the currency calculator, so...

HOLY HELL that's a lot of cheddar. I have no right complaining about 10$ if some people are paying 120$ just for CEs.

[MissOuJ]

geertmans wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...

biowaregeek wrote...


Mass Effect 3 N7 Collector's Edition IS $80 BUCKS by the time all of the dlc is released how much will the game cost us? $140? for the game thanks bioware.

I'm paying €90 for my CE; that's about $120 according to the currency calculator, so...

Damn... I paid 37 €.... I'm beginning to fear I won't get it on release day because of the bargain.

How'd you manage that?! Where are you buying it from?

I'm officially jealous right now...

[Genshie]

obie191970 wrote...

Killzone-Knut wrote...

I got a question about this, and it might have been answered before in this thread, but no way im wading through 300 pages to find it.

So i preordered the regular me3, what do i get? Shouldnt i, the consumer who paid $60 for a full game, get the full experience? Sure, people who buy the ce should get extra stuff, but isnt that mostly like artbooks etc? I have no issue with them getting ingame stuff, but why shouldnt we get it for free aswell? considering bioware has been working on this for a long time now, it should be in the game.

So my question is, why should i pay $10 more for something that should already be in it?

Because it was planned as an incentive to purchase the CE from the get go and that is the way it was advertised.  Now, they are allowing everyone to purchase a portion of the content that was made for the CE.  Nobody likes this.

What is worse is that if it was kept as a CE exclusive there would have been a bigger outcry. Bioware just can't win with this topic. In general it would have been better if the character wasn't Prothean at all.

[ArkkAngel007]

Sleek wrote...

Actully i just talked to one of the guys at gamestop and he said he would print a code up for me. Thanks guys . Wish Ea would do exclusives with the weapons.

Wow.  You should do all your pre-orders and AAA purchases through that guy exclusively from this point on.  Not often you get guys at these places that will do that sort of thing.

[iamzer0xx]

Wardka wrote...

You don't have my support, Michael Gamble. If this is the future of BioWare/EA gaming, I don't want any part of it.

Maybe you should read the entire post next time..

[Genshie]

ProtoMan 2.0 wrote...

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

Wow never knew there was alternate outfits/new missions. Now, my Squadmates with have 3 different outfits. Very happy. Thanks BW.

Every sqadmate also starts off with 2 alternate outfits.

Its double almost triple the amount of outfits that squadmates had in ME2. That is rather generous as I see it.

[nightcobra]

tomcruisejr wrote...

So basically I have to pay $70 for this game, if I want the actual full game an whole story.

I hope it isn't $80 next gen.

games passed from, at least in my local stores, 49.99 euros to 59.99 to 69.99 over the years.

you could argue that the monetary value can change and that has an impact on the product's real value but it really isn't easy on eyes nor the wallet either.

[KBomb]

Genshie wrote... DGAF= Don't give a freak (ya I know but I didn't want to use the actual word). If you read the group's description and actually read the topics in there it is hardly offensive. It is a group made for those peeps who in general just love Mass Effect. The group just doesn't care about the situation since the group will be just enjoying the game in general. I don't see anything offensive about that? You implying that is offensive is your own opinion and choice just like if you support buying a CE or SE  or buying the dlc or not. Your choice.

 
Yeah, I think most can figure out what DGAF means. I'm sure that most who have the banner doesn't mean for it to be confrontational. You can't deny that it doesn't come off as such. Especially since it was made when the discussion about “You should have bought the CE version like me!”. I'm glad there is a group for those who love Mass Effect. It's an awesome game. The banner wasn't made for that purpose and most in this thread know it. Most in this thread knows why it was made and certainly comes off as arrogant and a good rub-it-in-yo-face kind of thing. As I said, both sides are at fault for the provocation and name calling.

Modifié par KBomb, 24 février 2012 - 07:11 .

[ArkkAngel007]

Genshie wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Sleek wrote...

any thoughts on how to obtain the N7 Valkyrie , N7 Defender Armor if you pre ordered from Origins ,any suggestions ?

Pray that it doesn't stay a Gamestop exclusive for the rest of eternity.

Like many of the Assassin's Creed Brotherhood stuff and Batman Arkham City stuff they will most likely be up in PSN and Xbox live market in a few months.

Hopefully...as a Steam purchaser of the ME2 DDE, I still am awaiting the Blackstorm gear...and forever is how long I shall.

[Genshie]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Sleek wrote...

Actully i just talked to one of the guys at gamestop and he said he would print a code up for me. Thanks guys . Wish Ea would do exclusives with the weapons.

Wow.  You should do all your pre-orders and AAA purchases through that guy exclusively from this point on.  Not often you get guys at these places that will do that sort of thing.

If you shop at certain gamestops over and over again they remember you well. This is how I got the Joker's DLC map challenge for Batman Arkham City as well. Its even better on midnight releases since they tend to give peeps like this posters/ad boards and  what not out to them. Or could be that guy in general is just really nice guy.

[Kevin Lozandier]

Squallypo wrote...

a game is complete when its burn and send to x quantity of game retailers, but that doesnt mean that game itself could have been made complete just because it has already *gone gold* do you understand that ? also understand that developers they never gonna tell you the real truth behind their own words and what they do about the game they develop. its a pretty nasty enviroment.

Sure, we can't take everything we hear from PR as truth; but I say talk to gaming executives and development employee yourselfs to make your OWN damn conclusions. 

That's what I did. Instead of listen to fans who don't know the gaming industry outside of consuming a great deal of their material I've asked employees of Activision, EA, Riot Games, Atari.  and more about how they develop. I even met Activision's CEO and learned a lot of stuff that I can't even say.


All those experiences allow me to look at this act with a either-or with rationale allowing me to believe more it is not as pessimistic in action as some fans have said  about this matter thus far. 

I think the idea that you believe a game is not complete without a content that people with far more skill than you in the art of storytelling is an extra that you ignore is bordline moronic. 

Collector Editions has been devalued by the practice of some gaming companies to the point that gamers expect a certain quality that is nowhere near other mature mediums. Why the heck is that? 

Collector Edition of Comics have extra panels. Collector Edition of Movies have uncut material. Why can't Collector Edition of Games not have additional content to play with that's not on regular editions. 

I will go further to put myself in a sacrificial position: Name one Collector Edition this year or this past Fall that has extra content that is so much desired by the Standard Edition players and makes the Collector's Edition so desired. That's what Collector Editions should be. ESPECIALLY FOR THE FINAL GAME IN A TRILOGY.  I want a reply and PM response to be enlightned. 

Also: A big point. Everyone knows people always wanted to know what Protheans really looked like and/or play with one. What if Bioware wanted to see it happen but it wasn't in their original perspective of the story? Then they realized it just felt too contrived for them or was too distracting to be full canon (Remember, having  Collector's Armor wasn't exactly canon).  Knowing that it's something a lot of long-time fans wanted to do and put it inside the edition that such fans would consume proportionally more of: The Collector's Edition. 

It's a win-win because it would not be confusing to those who didn't get to experience ME1 (either ME2 only players or ME1 players) and would be in the hands of people who would appreciate it most. 

Personally, if there was such thing as a collector's item for gaming that you can use in the way the medium ought to be, it would be this Prothean DLC. 

Modifié par Kevin Lozandier, 24 février 2012 - 07:16 .

[Kreidian]

A friend of mine wrote a blog post about this whole issue.

I think this expresses my thoughts pretty well.

Plus there's some creative use of colorful language.

[wrdnshprd]

Blarty wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

MageCeridan wrote...

Is it mandatory?
No? 
Then it's NOT an hidden cost.

Is the game complete without it ? No.

Hidden cost.

Can the game be completed without it? Yes

is the SE advertised to be a complete game without getting CE? YES

does the SE player get access to the same characters and missions the CE player does WITHOUT having to purchase extra content. NO

then the SE is not a complete version. end of line.

you can justify it anyway you want, but the above is still fact.

Modifié par wrdnshprd, 24 février 2012 - 07:12 .

[ArkkAngel007]

Jmalk wrote...

Too many leaks...

And yet Xbox Live players still received the demo before everyone else.

Stay classy Microsoft.

[_symphony]

Killzone-Knut wrote...

I got a question about this, and it might have been answered before in this thread, but no way im wading through 300 pages to find it.

So i preordered the regular me3, what do i get? Shouldnt i, the consumer who paid $60 for a full game, get the full experience? Sure, people who buy the ce should get extra stuff, but isnt that mostly like artbooks etc? I have no issue with them getting ingame stuff, but why shouldnt we get it for free aswell? considering bioware has been working on this for a long time now, it should be in the game.

So my question is, why should i pay $10 more for something that should already be in it?

You get the game, what is the full game is subject to debate. Prothy is big deal lore-wise, but BioWare made him inconsequential.
Probably the only thing important about prothy is that he's going to be the only squadmember with biotic powers besides Liara (leaving aside Kaidan who might be dead for some)

[MissOuJ]

fropas wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...

I'm paying €90 for my CE alone; that's about $120 according to the currency calculator, so...

HOLY HELL that's a lot of cheddar. I have no right complaining about 10$ if some people are paying 120$ just for CEs.

For real. I'm a student, and that's almost 1/4th of my rent, but I got a big-ish tax return this year, and I thought "Well, I really want it, so I might as well get it". And games are pretty expensive here in general, and I wish I could get new releases for €45 ($60) in stead of €60 ($80).

So yeah, people complaining about this particular issue is pretty annoying from where I'm standing...

[Genshie]

KBomb wrote...

DGAF= Don't give a freak (ya I know but I didn't want to use the actual word). If you read the group's description and actually read the topics in there it is hardly offensive. It is a group made for those peeps who in general just love Mass Effect. The group just doesn't care about the situation since the group will be just enjoying the game in general. I don't see anything offensive about that? You implying that is offensive is your own opinion and choice just like if you support buying a CE or SE  or buying the dlc or not. Your choice.

 
Yeah, I think most can figure out what DGAF means. I'm sure that most who have the banner doesn't mean for it to be confrontational. You can't deny that it doesn't come off as such. Especially since it was made when the discussion about “You should have bought the CE version like me!”. I'm glad there is a group for those who love Mass Effect. It's an awesome game. The banner wasn't made for that purpose and most in this thread know it. Most in this thread knows why it was made and certainly comes off as arrogant and a good rub-it-in-yo-face kind of thing. As I said, both sides are at fault for the provocation and name calling.

That is perfectly fine reasoning but don't signal people out like that. I knew from the moment you posted that long paragraph that you pointed me out. I haven't pointed anyone out in this thread directly and I would hope others would do the same. The fact that you didn't doesn't help your cause. I repesct you as much as I do anyone else here just as long as we are being acceptable of one another that is.
If people are allowed to support TB I can support a group who doesn't give a flying freak about him and think he is missing out on a great game.

Modifié par Genshie, 24 février 2012 - 07:15 .

[ArkkAngel007]

wrdnshprd wrote...

Blarty wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

MageCeridan wrote...

Is it mandatory?
No? 
Then it's NOT an hidden cost.

Is the game complete without it ? No.

Hidden cost.

Can the game be completed without it? Yes

is the SE advertised to be a complete game without getting CE? YES

does the SE player get access to the same characters and missions the CE player does WITHOUT having to purchase extra content. NO

then the SE is not a complete version. end of line.

you can justify it anyway you want, but the above is still fact.

It's not a fact.  Just because you feel additional content should be included does not make it complete.  That is an opinion.

If a game is complete as is, then it's still complete, whether or not there is the presence of additional content.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 24 février 2012 - 07:15 .

[geertmans]

MissOuJ wrote...

geertmans wrote...

MissOuJ wrote...

biowaregeek wrote...


Mass Effect 3 N7 Collector's Edition IS $80 BUCKS by the time all of the dlc is released how much will the game cost us? $140? for the game thanks bioware.

I'm paying €90 for my CE; that's about $120 according to the currency calculator, so...

Damn... I paid 37 €.... I'm beginning to fear I won't get it on release day because of the bargain.

How'd you manage that?! Where are you buying it from?

I'm officially jealous right now...

I ordered the CE at www.mycom.nl

A few weeks after I orderd it the price went up to 70 euro's or so. Weird thing, the PC CE I ordered is now not even available anymore on the website which can mean two things, they're through their stock, which means I'll get one for sure, since I ordered it well on time. Or I'll get mine way too late or something. The website is well respected in the Netherlands though.

[nitefyre410]

Novate wrote...

blueruin wrote...

http://i.imgur.com/m77S3.png

If that chart is true, then I guess I understand. It's still annoying and I still hate EA, but I understand.

So what you are saying is that We as the Consumer have no say, and should take what ever they want to give us. Take it or leave it.

Developers can do whatever they want, as long as they make a statement that its " working as intended" " was developed by other people" or " after certification" 

Here is an Idea, to help Bioware milk more money, they should totally make Tali , Garrus  and Liara an DLC that after 1 mission in the Core of the game where you can use them, and inorder to continue to use them as an Squadmate, you have to pay 10 dollars or they just sit at Normandy.

Because they can, and we will still buy them without a second thought.

 

Not this consumer.. ..

They can take that  model of trying to get money from me  and keep it...

Modifié par nitefyre410, 24 février 2012 - 07:16 .

[fatalmaverick]

Most people make opinions based off fact... don't know what planet you come from.

[Favourite store on the CitadeI]

ProtoMan 2.0 wrote...

Favourite store on the CitadeI wrote...

Wow never knew there was alternate outfits/new missions. Now, my Squadmates with have 3 different outfits. Very happy. Thanks BW.

Every sqadmate also starts off with 2 alternate outfits.

No, i meant because in the CE there is already alt. outfits. but now with the DLC theres 1 more

[fropas]

wrdnshprd wrote...

Blarty wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

MageCeridan wrote...

Is it mandatory?
No? 
Then it's NOT an hidden cost.

Is the game complete without it ? No.

Hidden cost.

Can the game be completed without it? Yes

is the SE advertised to be a complete game without getting CE? YES

does the SE player get access to the same characters and missions the CE player does WITHOUT having to purchase extra content. NO

then the SE is not a complete version. end of line.

you can justify it anyway you want, but the above is still fact.

depends on your definition of "complete" (BW believes it's complete without this additional content)