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[nevar00]

redsox95MB wrote...

rumbalumba wrote...

 
http://www.change.or...f-mass-effect-3

No. What about the loyal fans who payed more for the CE under the assumption that they were getting a bonus character? Why should you get it for free when I already payed extra for it?

This shouldn't be about getting it for free, but about why they decided to sideline a character with such potential.

As someone who has preordered the CE... please.  We're getting enough to justify spending $80... maybe.  The fact is, the Prothean SHOULD be adding a significant amount to the game to the point that it should have been on the game in the first place.  If this were Zaeed I would agree with you and nobody would care.

The fact that a living Prothean has just been thrown on as optional just blows my mind.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

I'm gonna get it because I got the DDE, but I don't agree with this deal.

This is clearly EA/Bioware monetizing on the long term fans. It's a disservice. Ok, for "new customers" I get that this wouldn't be a big deal, that's why you think of it as a DLC, but why the hell split the consumer base this much? And on PROTHEAN content, which is clearly a big deal on Mass Effect fans.

What's more funny is that of course this won't be huge on the main plot because it's DLC, but it's an initiative that makes us long term fans think it's a big deal. PERFECT profit opportunity.

And on my basic thinking I don't agree on charged launch day DLC. EVER.

[Kroepoek]

>superb ce edition.

Hahaha. Babbies first CE because mummy gave him something extra for nice behavior.

Idiot.

[Yuoaman]

Tyrium wrote...

I don't get it, People on this forum drive me absolutely crazy, I don't know why I keep coming here - some kind of masochism I suppose.

From Ashes is a free bonus for the CE - what is wrong with making those of us (me included) who ordered the cheaper SE pay to have that bonus? You can argue that day 1 DLC should be in the game, but CE needs some real extra in game content to be attractive.

It's not some core integral important part of the game, it's a bonus. You're not missing some important thing by not having it! And if you feel you are, $10 and you get it. That's still cheaper than collector's!

Because it was never, not even for half a second, planned to be exclusive for CE owners. They were always going to sell it standalone and the fact that it includes something so huge in the Mass Effect universe it's ridiculous that they've decided to do this.

[Tazzmission]

Tyrium wrote...

I don't get it, People on this forum drive me absolutely crazy, I don't know why I keep coming here - some kind of masochism I suppose.

From Ashes is a free bonus for the CE - what is wrong with making those of us (me included) who ordered the cheaper SE pay to have that bonus? You can argue that day 1 DLC should be in the game, but CE needs some real extra in game content to be attractive.

It's not some core integral important part of the game, it's a bonus. You're not missing some important thing by not having it! And if you feel you are, $10 and you get it. That's still cheaper than collector's!

i repeat common sence is not known on this forum and does not compute with those current platforms lol

[neubourn]

The people have spoken BW...

So, keep the DLC as a CE exclusive, since everyone else doesnt want to buy it anyway.

done.

[Atakuma]

Tazzmission wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

The fact that the character is a prothean makes it that much worse, because they are clearly exploiting people's interest.

funny how people never said that regarding legion in me2....


must be nice to sound like a hypocrite

What? Legion was part of the main game, he has nothing to do with this.

[Genshie]

DiabolicallyRandom wrote...


As I type this, I am seriously considering cancelling my pre-order of the collectors edition - I can think of no other way to effectively get the point across then to not support this type of behavior with my hard-earned money.

And like I said to previous person saying they are cancelling their pre-order: You just made one other person pretty damn happy. You think that cancelling a CE is going to hurt Bioware? No its not. You are just leaving another space for person to pick up your order instead. The ones that Bioware should care about is standard editions and even then I don't think it will matter in the long run in terms of sales.

[saturos2]

Draconis6666 wrote...

They should just remove the ability for people who didn't get the collectors edition to even buy it at all since everyone is so ungrateful that they have the ability to get it.

Lol, if they do this, im definatly canelling my preorder.

[Siven80]

Im getting the CE edition anyway so luckily it doesnt impact me much.

But i do not support the decision made to make paid day 1 DLC.  But i will still be getting the game asi want to play it.

I believe it should be free for new copies like the Zaeed DLC was for ME2 as part of the Cerberus network.

Modifié par Siven80, 23 février 2012 - 12:40 .

[Draconis6666]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

The game does not go GOLD until after THE GAME passes certification which takes awhile also.

They don't wait for gold status to make dlc. You can do any dlc as soon as the core of the game is working. As soon as they are able to do a run through the game. They can start doing DLC stuff even if all model/texture/cinematic and all that are not up or ready.

Thats kin dof my point, even if the DLC was completed when the game went gold that does not mean it was completed when the final build of the game was submited for certification.

[V1per7]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

V1per7 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

V1per7 wrote...

 yes.

charge us $60 and make us pay an extra $10 for something that should have bene included. disgusting.

It is not include because you buy the cheap edition. People with the CE have it included because it is for the CE in the first place.

im sorry but moron like you just need to stop...

there is not such thing as first place or second place...

when i pay $60, i want a full product. PERIOD.

charging me something that should hace been included is just simply wrong!

Are you jealous of my superb CE edition which allow me to get awesome thing while you don't? Looks like it. 
You pay for the full game. I pay for the full game and extra.

muhahaha im sorry, but i am a working college student. i dont have my parent cash to swing around and feed off.

when i spend money, i want that money spent well. 

 dont need your damn collector edition. if i want it, i could. but nothing interest me. 

but this subject is not about which is a better version. the fact that boiware/EA is RIPPING a peice of  a FULL PRODUCT and charging us $10.

i dont mind paying $10 if the DLC was to be release down the line, but having "DLC" on release date is not acceptable. 

[graciegrace]

If anything, it should only be 7(560 Microsoft Points, like Kasumi) instead of 10 dollars. It's too expensive, but charging for it is completely justified.

[saturos2]

Atakuma wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

The fact that the character is a prothean makes it that much worse, because they are clearly exploiting people's interest.

funny how people never said that regarding legion in me2....


must be nice to sound like a hypocrite

What? Legion was part of the main game, he has nothing to do with this.

Rememer most people who post don't think before they do so.

[Xellana]

Draconis6666 wrote...

Xellana wrote...

2. "From Ashes" is not a major plot point[/b]: messed up, because a living, breathing prothean not being major to the plot just feels soo wrong in this universe that this would be even more stupid than the alternative (being it is a major plot point dlc), because it destroys the entire lore of the game

How? Explain this with something other than "because hes a prothean so he has to be" or "protheans are key to everything!" The plot of the game is the war against the reapers not the extinction of the protheans from 50.000 years ago. If this were still ME 1 then a Prothean would be of arguably more importance. At the point the plot has progressed now however a Prothean adds nothing to the plot simply because hes a prothean. Even knowing HOW the reapers wiped out the protheans in expilict detail is of neglitable importance because the races of the galaxy now are NOT the protheans and will not be approached the same way unless your saying that the Reapers are morons who do everything the exact same way every time and ignore any difference in situationst hat give different advantages.

This is like saying Darth Vader is not important to the storyline of StarWars because the plot of the movies is the war against the emperor.

[AxisEvolve]

Tazzmission wrote...
funny how people never said that regarding legion in me2....


must be nice to sound like a hypocrite

I'm not trying to take anyone's side but Legion wasn't DLC. 

(Which you know of course but it confuses the point you are making.)

[N7Infernox]

saturos2 wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

They should just remove the ability for people who didn't get the collectors edition to even buy it at all since everyone is so ungrateful that they have the ability to get it.

Lol, if they do this, im definatly canelling my preorder.

And waiting till the price drops 

[Hunter of Legends]

This new information changes things.

I still believe the Prothean to be important to the narrative as a whole but if it was finished after the game was done but done so we can have him for our playthroughs then what has been doen is fine by me.

[Atakuma]

Tazzmission wrote...

Tyrium wrote...

I don't get it, People on this forum drive me absolutely crazy, I don't know why I keep coming here - some kind of masochism I suppose.

From Ashes is a free bonus for the CE - what is wrong with making those of us (me included) who ordered the cheaper SE pay to have that bonus? You can argue that day 1 DLC should be in the game, but CE needs some real extra in game content to be attractive.

It's not some core integral important part of the game, it's a bonus. You're not missing some important thing by not having it! And if you feel you are, $10 and you get it. That's still cheaper than collector's!

i repeat common sence is not known on this forum and does not compute with those current platforms lol

Being a sycophant is not the same as common sense.

[Squallypo]

theres not much to say about what bioware is doing nowdays about their games in this case affecting me 3

 

Modifié par Squallypo, 23 février 2012 - 12:42 .

[Yuoaman]

Draconis6666 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

The game does not go GOLD until after THE GAME passes certification which takes awhile also.

They don't wait for gold status to make dlc. You can do any dlc as soon as the core of the game is working. As soon as they are able to do a run through the game. They can start doing DLC stuff even if all model/texture/cinematic and all that are not up or ready.

Thats kin dof my point, even if the DLC was completed when the game went gold that does not mean it was completed when the final build of the game was submited for certification.

Even so, the "downloadable" part of it's name means that they can finish it much closer to the release date and still have it out on time - no need to print it onto discs or anything.

[Chala]

They should add him like Zaeed:
New copies get him free.
Used ones? Pay for it.

[LinksOcarina]

WeWant wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

WeWant wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

If they didn't charge for it, how would that be fair to the people who paid extra for the CE?

This was never promised for the SE, you're entitled to nothing.

People who bought the CE are screwed because they are paying something that should be in the game, but still try to justify the +$20.

So the artbook, soundtrack, patch and other items included with the bonus character and mission are worth nothing?

Or th efact that people who don't have the CE are just as loud as those who did get it, and are complaining about something even more vile since they have no proof of the matter?

Yeah, thats not hypocritical at all.

- I didn't say there are worth nothing, just that, more exclusive stuf you have in you CE, the more comfortable you feel paying for it.
- We don't need proof. Every argument against day one dlc have been told and you just ignore it. We can't do much for fanboys with selective hearing.

you don't get it do you.

First off, the more exclusive stuff in a collectors edition is a false argument, because you can have ten things in something and they can all be pointless. Diverse amounts of collector items is a different beast though, a mix of real items like the art booklet, a digital soundtrack, extra weapons, costumes, and the bonus character make a good mix. It really does not matter much to me if other people have access to the Prothean, because we are all paying for it in the end anyway if we so choose too.

Second, There is no proof of what you said yet, because A) no one has played the game with or without the DLC,which has final say on how the character is handled in the storyline anyway we don't know full story of what happened to the character, only a loose projection of how the character came to be from an early script draft to the final product, and C) all of this is just conjecture that can't be validated, on any side. 

I am just as much of a fanboy as yourself, but at least I am not being a hypocrite when I say that yeah, this may be an important character, but its one worth looking at critically because I am a fan of the game. But honestly, who the character is irreleveant since, once again, the inclusion of a DLC character was public knowledge for almost a year now.