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[TheGoddess0fWar]

_symphony wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

It's to bad you all are complaining at the last second. If only you had protested months ago. Damn. That would of saved us 340 pages of nothing but circle-jerking. In the words of Admiral Hackett "You're preaching to the choir."

What's wrong? tired?

No. I'm just done sympathising with people. It really sucks that you guys aren't getting free DLC while CE buyers pay $20 more to get it. Really. That blows. But I don't feel sorry for you, at all.

[RDSFirebane]

jpzgoku wrote...

What priorities? To check up on a game months ahead of time that I was no way interesed enough in to preorder? I don't understand.

I don't understand if you didn't care enough to pre order and get it when it came out your were going to to what? wait for it to drop in price or buy it used? well I'm sorry but if you plan on buying it used then you really cant complain about paying 10 bucks for the Prothy DLC as BioWare sees no money from the used sale thats been an issue for sometime now.. so they catch it ya on the DLC.

[TheGoddess0fWar]

jpzgoku wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

jpzgoku wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

It's to bad you all are complaining at the last second. If only you had protested months ago. Damn. That would of saved us 340 pages of nothing but circle-jerking. In the words of Admiral Hackett "You're preaching to the choir."

I think most of us that are upset didn't ever think to preorder the game, so we didn't know about this until news broke out on gaming websites.

People have had plenty of time to get their priorties straight.

What priorities? To check up on a game months ahead of time that I was no way interesed enough in to preorder? I don't understand.

If you checked on in months ago and decided you didn't want to pre-order what is screaming bloody murder less then 2 weeks before the games release going to do? Absolutely nothing.

[GuyIncognito21]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Not buying the DLC takes money away from Microsoft, Sony, and EA who are all at least partially responsible for the cost, though EA is the main problem.

I don't think it does take money away from EA, for the reason I mentioned: because the content is content that (in my opinion, so we're clear) was always going to be in the game anyway, EA had no reason to expect that $10 in the first place.

Boycotting the DLC only "takes money out of EA's pocket" if you believe that the only reason development resources were spent on the DLC  was so that it could be sold separately.

Well if I believed that, I wouldn't be angry to begin with.

[SpectreSaren]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

_symphony wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

It's to bad you all are complaining at the last second. If only you had protested months ago. Damn. That would of saved us 340 pages of nothing but circle-jerking. In the words of Admiral Hackett "You're preaching to the choir."

What's wrong? tired?

No. I'm just done sympathising with people. It really sucks that you guys aren't getting free DLC while CE buyers pay $20 more to get it. Really. That blows. But I don't feel sorry for you, at all.

Amen.

[ZX12r Ninja]

KBomb wrote...

Monochrome Wench wrote...

CH says 'Free' must be absolute truth
CH says 'developed after main game finished' must be a lie

 
Well, if you choose to believe what Casey Hudson says is true, then him stating “the DLC was developed after the main game was finished” must indeed be seen as the truth. If so, then you must also believe him if he says the DLC comes free with purchase of CE.


If you believe he is being untruthful about the DLC being free with purchase of CE, then you must also concede that he could be lying about when the DLC was finished.




Btw, I never said he was lying on either front.

Get over it he never said the DLC is free, twitter is limited to 140 chars and thus he shortend his sentences.

[GuyIncognito21]

_symphony wrote...

Frankly, I don't believe the DLC is cut content from the main game.

Fair enough.

 If I felt the same way, I wouldn't be upset about what's going on here, with the addendum that by "cut content" I don't mean it was in the game before they ripped it out.  What I mean is content that would have shipped with the game even if they couldn't make an extra buck off it.

[BaronIveagh]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

It's to bad you all are complaining at the last second. If only you had protested months ago. Damn. That would of saved us 340 pages of nothing but circle-jerking. In the words of Admiral Hackett "You're preaching to the choir."

Sorry, I beat you to the 'I told you so.' back on...150?  200?  More pages back. 

Though it was hushed up months ago when Chris explicity stated that it was cut content.  Appearently that was a lie.


BTW: an interesting artical on this situation:  www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/02/24/why-the-exploitation-of-gamers-is-our-own-damn-fault-2/

[Yuoaman]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

_symphony wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

It's to bad you all are complaining at the last second. If only you had protested months ago. Damn. That would of saved us 340 pages of nothing but circle-jerking. In the words of Admiral Hackett "You're preaching to the choir."

What's wrong? tired?

No. I'm just done sympathising with people. It really sucks that you guys aren't getting free DLC while CE buyers pay $20 more to get it. Really. That blows. But I don't feel sorry for you, at all.

Yeah, because all of the collectibles in the Collector's Edition are just there to drive the price down.

[KBomb]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

It's to bad you all are complaining at the last second. If only you had protested months ago. Damn. That would of saved us 340 pages of nothing but circle-jerking. In the words of Admiral Hackett "You're preaching to the choir."

No. I'm just done sympathising with people. It really sucks that you guys aren't getting free DLC while CE buyers pay $20 more to get it. Really. That blows. But I don't feel sorry for you, at all.

 
Well, you know...you don't have to participate in said circle-jerk. Who is asking for your sympathy? Who is asking you, “The Goddess0fWar, please come into the Mass Effect 3: From Ashes thread. I know you hate it, I know you're tired of it, won't you please come!”?


All kidding aside: When I get really bored, tired, frustrated with a thread—I simply don't follow it anymore, or I take a few days off from it.

[_symphony]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

_symphony wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

It's to bad you all are complaining at the last second. If only you had protested months ago. Damn. That would of saved us 340 pages of nothing but circle-jerking. In the words of Admiral Hackett "You're preaching to the choir."

What's wrong? tired?

No. I'm just done sympathising with people. It really sucks that you guys aren't getting free DLC while CE buyers pay $20 more to get it. Really. That blows. But I don't feel sorry for you, at all.

sympathising? all I have heard from you is a lot claims that you can't backup in any way. You didn't pay for Prothy, you paid for the CE, you're getting the CE, what's wrong with it?

[ArkkAngel007]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

jpzgoku wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

It's to bad you all are complaining at the last second. If only you had protested months ago. Damn. That would of saved us 340 pages of nothing but circle-jerking. In the words of Admiral Hackett "You're preaching to the choir."

I think most of us that are upset didn't ever think to preorder the game, so we didn't know about this until news broke out on gaming websites.

People have had plenty of time to get their priorties straight.

Some people don't preorder.  Some like to wait for the general reception of the game (who can blame them after games like DAII and Too Human?) before they spend $60+ on a game.  

It also wasn't advertised as a Prothean.  Briefly it was leaked a long while back, but not everyone spends every waking hour online for news on a game they may or may not want to purchase.  While he isn't important in the game, the general consensus is that he is very important to the fans, and Casey stated that would be the case, hence why they chose to use him as DLC instead of leaving him in concept graveyard.  

Now that people know who he is now in that DLC, they want him like any other fan would.  But now we're being asked to shell out an extra $10 on the same day many were planning on buying a $60 game.  People didn't buy the CE in the first place because quite a few can't really afford it (some are probably making a questionable choice financially in getting the SE alone), but now something they want and are used to being free is suddenly an additional $10 that they really don't have lying around to waste on DLC.  

The fact that we only just received an official announcement this late, after CEs were bought up and so close to release, doesn't help the latter reasoning at all.

That's the issue on that side of the fence, and it isn't something to scoff at.  People want to enjoy the game, but feel as if they are getting slighted with what is a questionable practice.

[jpzgoku]

SpectreSaren wrote...

Has this been posted in here yet?

Yes that was a great video. He made great points and did not get tricked into Bioware's ploy. The full game costs $70. He was smart and has enough and had enough willpower to boycott the game for their crooked practices. He is part of the solution, not part of the problem.

And It was really funny.

[jpzgoku]

_symphony wrote...

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...
Not to mention that the game's themselves are fine (Ok DAII, you're getting the red card).  It's the DLC and DRM policies that are the problem.

Yeah but the reason the DLC policy is the problem is precisely the reason a boycott limited to the DLC wouldn't work.  
If you believe the DLC is cut content, then every dollar they make on DLC is bonus.  If you still buy the game, Bioware is still getting $60 from you, they're just not getting a $10 bonus.  Well they were never entitled to that bonus in the first place!  

In other words, if every gamer on earth boycotted the DLC it wouldn't make any difference to Bioware because it didn't cost them anything to begin with.

If you're going to hit them, you have to hit them where it hurts.  Refusing to buy their DLC isn't taking money out of their pockets, refusing to buy their game entirely is.

Frankly, I don't believe the DLC is cut content from the main game.

How, Why? Anyway it was planned and is availiable before launch. 

[KBomb]

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

Get over it he never said the DLC is free, twitter is limited to 140 chars and thus he shortend his sentences.

 
Source, please. I am sure if he retracted his statement, he made an announcement of it, or a tweet about it. Or did you become his official mouth-piece? As confrontational as you are, I'm sure the latter is false.

[jpzgoku]

RDSFirebane wrote...

jpzgoku wrote...

What priorities? To check up on a game months ahead of time that I was no way interesed enough in to preorder? I don't understand.

I don't understand if you didn't care enough to pre order and get it when it came out your were going to to what? wait for it to drop in price or buy it used? well I'm sorry but if you plan on buying it used then you really cant complain about paying 10 bucks for the Prothy DLC as BioWare sees no money from the used sale thats been an issue for sometime now.. so they catch it ya on the DLC.

I don't understand when pre-ordering became madatory. I have only preordered 2 games ever. And one of those games I pre-ordered right before launch just so I could pick it up at midnight. I don't get the point of Preordering a game months before it comes out. makes not sense to me.

[KBomb]

jreezy wrote...

I don't know why the other extras seem to be constantly ignored.

 Me either. I think they're pretty great. I wanted it for the case, soundtrack and N7 Hoodie for my Shep. The Artbook didn't hurt either since I couldn't really stretch my budget to get the big one.

[RDSFirebane]

jpzgoku wrote...

How, Why? Anyway it was planned and is availiable before launch. 

Being avalilable before launch and before Certification and disk burning starts is Completely different.

[GuyIncognito21]

SpectreSaren wrote...

Has this been posted in here yet?

That is too perfect.

"Yeah, there's a Mass in Mass Effect.  It's a cancerous mass on the side of gaming, it's called Bioware."

"They said the game was $60, that's a lie.  The game is $70 ******* dollars."

"Now I have to go find a collector's edition, so I can get all the plastic **** and hang it on my wall like a badge of shame."

"I'm boycotting your game, Bioware.  Look what you've made me do."

Modifié par GuyIncognito21, 25 février 2012 - 05:46 .

[ArkkAngel007]

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Not buying the DLC takes money away from Microsoft, Sony, and EA who are all at least partially responsible for the cost, though EA is the main problem.

I don't think it does take money away from EA, for the reason I mentioned: because the content is content that (in my opinion, so we're clear) was always going to be in the game anyway, EA had no reason to expect that $10 in the first place.

Boycotting the DLC only "takes money out of EA's pocket" if you believe that the only reason development resources were spent on the DLC  was so that it could be sold separately.

Well if I believed that, I wouldn't be angry to begin with.

EA is the parent company of BioWare, and they will want to collect the cost it took to make the additional content, since budgets are pre-planned as well.  In either case or both, they see a share.

I'm not arguing that the writers could have written him into the story.  But the fact is that they didn't and that was their choice.  We won't get an answer until after the game is released on why that was the case when spoilers are allowed to go free and they can be more open about development.

It's already been made clear that he wouldn't have been in if he wasn't DLC, both in the scripts and from Jess' comments on Reddit.

[ArkkAngel007]

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

SpectreSaren wrote...

Has this been posted in here yet?

That is too perfect.

"Yeah, there's a Mass in Mass Effect.  It's a cancerous mass on the side of gaming, it's called Bioware."

"Now I have to go find a collector's edition, so I can get all the plastic **** and hang it on my wall like a badge of shame."

"I'm boycotting your game, Bioware.  Look what you've made me do."

Change BioWare to EA and I would have been on board.  That and a few other things that aren't quite accurate. 

In fact, nope, sorry, can't completely go for it.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 25 février 2012 - 05:47 .