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[phantomdragoness]

Darji wrote...

Tyrium wrote...

I don't get it, People on this forum drive me absolutely crazy, I don't know why I keep coming here - some kind of masochism I suppose.

From Ashes is a free bonus for the CE - what is wrong with making those of us (me included) who ordered the cheaper SE pay to have that bonus? You can argue that day 1 DLC should be in the game, but CE needs some real extra in game content to be attractive.

It's not some core integral important part of the game, it's a bonus. You're not missing some important thing by not having it! And if you feel you are, $10 and you get it. That's still cheaper than collector's!

It is a frickin prothean.....

If it were some other guy or race no one would complain at all.

Imagine if no DLC were offered ever again. Another uproar, and yet another great rift will occur in the BioWare forums.

Good times.

[Vault08]

My guess would be it's not going to make such a big impact because the galaxy's a little preoccupied with the Reapers to worry about a Prothean, I'm sure he/she (has it been confirmed which?) will change up some dialogue and is sure to get some reactions, but what sort of effect could it have on the actual plot, where the reapers are invading? He might know a few things to help, but I doubt he's a game changer, he's the last of his kind and whatever info he has is probably just going to clear up some questions regarding the protheans, not be pivotal to the plot.

[Cyberendo]

Don't care what your excuse is. You can charge for content AFTER release, anything that is finished BEFORE release should be included in the game at day one

You lost me on this one Bioware, and I was looking forward to this game too

[Savber100]

Hmmm... Still wish one day DLC doesn't exist.

You alienate more fans than actually make them feel "rewarded" with stuff like this.

Just saying EA/Bioware...

[RiouHotaru]

I like the fact that folks over-emphasize his importance solely because he's a Prothean. He could be a helpless civilian and people would still claim they're everything.

The fact there's even a Prothean in the first place is because Bioware is throwing us ALL a bone.

"Hey, you know those guys from ME1? The Protheans? The race that died to the Reapers? Here's a member of their race for you to nostalgia over."

[Fiery Phoenix]

This DLC, in a nutshell, is ME3's equivalent of Shale, Zaeed, and Sebastian. Hardly a new thing, so I don't really see the issue. But whatever.

[Takamori The Templar]

people are vomiting Zaeed that he wasn't important and prothean is not important.
HEY GUESS WHAT IDIOTS, ZAEED CAME FOR FREE.

[Draconis6666]

Jotamide wrote...

Kasumi & Zaeed -> Not relevant to the plot. Nice additions to the crew but nothing crucial.
A Prothean -> Part of a race that pretty much has been a central plot element to the whole series.

4 or 5 lines of dialogue about how collectors are protheans makes them Central to the plot of ME 2?

[nightlordv]

Ultimono wrote...

nightlordv wrote...

I just saw the TB video about this DLC and I have to admit this is just in bad taste on Bioware/Ea's part, but then I am not surprised.

1) Why are people basically being rewarded for buying the more expensive CE. I don't want the CE, I don't want to spend 80 bucks for it, so I am being penalized for buying the standard edition for an already inflated 60 bucks?

2) Not only that, but this DLC involves a character that is basically integral for any ME fan to WANT to have. Its a frickin' PROTHEAN the whole basis of this game has been about them and their connection to Shepherd from the very start in ME 1. Of course i want this DLC just because of that fact alone, its a Prothean squad mate how cool is that?

But no, because I bought the standard addition I have to shell out another 10 bucks on launch to get access to this DLC and character? This utter fail Bioware/EA

1) Why are we being rewarded for buying a more expensive version? Because its more expensive
You don't want to buy the CE? Fine. However you are not being penalized
Those of us who spent more are getting extra content, god forbid that seems outrageous
In case you havent noticed prices are rising for everything because the economy has officially turned to ****, or did you not get given the memo?
2) That's why he was created because fans would want him
Now he was being offered to CE owners becasue they paid more, sorry for asking you to put a little extra to him too.
The connection basically lasted till Virmire, after that it's just been kill the Reapers. The Protheams were there to cause a bit of awe at the beginning. however we find out they died and all the tech was actually the Reapers.
Ontop of this he is the last one, so i cant see him making a difference to the overall plot. And if you listen to the lines on youtube, several races are told he is a Prothean and nobody believes him, so outside of Shepard and his squad Protheans are dead

You would probably believe Bioware if they said they sneezed solid gold flakes wouldn't you? Some people just cannot accept that what Bioware and EA is doing is wrong because Bioware simply cannot do any wrong. Sad really.

Modifié par nightlordv, 23 février 2012 - 12:55 .

[ArkkAngel007]

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Again why bother bringing back something long dead if it idn't going to have an impact.

For all we know the last Prothean could have had a vision and be able to tell Shepard exactly what will happen next etc or know of a way to kill the Reapers but never had the chance to utilize it.

Because it's fan service to all those who said they would like to see a Prothean.  So BioWare developed the DLC (since the Prothean wasn't a part of the narrative), and EA put a price tag on it.

[Paragon Auducan]

Draconis6666 wrote...

chengthao wrote...


And people that don't stand up and say I have had enough will allow
companies to continue this shady business practice again and again which
hurts all consurmers in the end.

If people are so flacid to not speak out against this BS then theres no hope for anything to change.

That is a valid point of view but if you are going to do so then you need to stand up and protest against ALL Instances of such practices not a single issue. Protesting a single issue because its relevant to your personal interest while ignoring the same thing that happens thousands of time a day in thousands of other places is hypocritical and just demeans the strength of your argument.

So two wrongs make a right?

NO ONE has said anything about this kind of thing being ok in other instances

[Biotic Sage]

I think most have summed it up nicely in this thread:

A living breathing Prothean is DLC and not part of the main game? Wow Bioware, I am displeased. This is not content that is "extra." If you are going to have a Prothean, then have a Prothean, that's fine, but not having this as part of the main game is double dipping. You are making us spend money on launch DLC that should have been part of the main game. Launch DLC should actually be something superfulous, something that's not fundamentally paradigm shifting in the established universe. Adding a bounty hunter to your squad is an example of this. Adding an individual from a species that the galactic community has believed to be extinct for thousands of years and we are using their technology/knowledge to help us defeat the Reapers? Yeah, that's kind of important.

[Draconis6666]

Takamori The Templar wrote...

people are vomiting Zaeed that he wasn't important and prothean is not important.
HEY GUESS WHAT IDIOTS, ZAEED CAME FOR FREE.

He also was not a selling point for the collectors edition.

[nitefyre410]

Draconis6666 wrote...

They should just remove the ability for people who didn't get the collectors edition to even buy it at all since everyone is so ungrateful that they have the ability to get it.

 

its not a matter of being  ungrateful ..its the fact that  no one believes that bs story about it was completed after the game and by a seperate team...no one.   This was planned  and  the people who are outraged have the absolute right to outraged.   Even if the the character is not that important to the story you making one set of people pay extra for content that is already there that another group of people  not paying for..   If you total eveything that  comes with the CE up  its worth way more than 10 bucks.  Matter of fact the soundtrack alone is  is 10 bucks at the cheapest. 

That  ain't right... it just ain't right.  

it makes even less of the buiness sense  considering that  they put themselves in the completely unwinnable position.   The best thing they could have done would have been to make it free from everyone. The CE people would have complained yes but  like I  said an 70 page artbook, litograph and digtial soundtrack  and every thing else still offered is way more than the 10 bucks extra.  

The lesser of two evils given the spot they are in now because now you have  ton of pissed of SE  buyers and CE  buyers beating down Bioware's door... bottomline

This was a dumb move from the start.

Mike's  statement was even dumber and did nothing but throw gas on the fire..

[Ohei]

Takamori The Templar wrote...

people are vomiting Zaeed that he wasn't important and prothean is not important.
HEY GUESS WHAT IDIOTS, ZAEED CAME FOR FREE.

LOL, sorry, but QFT.

[Draconis6666]

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

chengthao wrote...


And people that don't stand up and say I have had enough will allow
companies to continue this shady business practice again and again which
hurts all consurmers in the end.

If people are so flacid to not speak out against this BS then theres no hope for anything to change.

That is a valid point of view but if you are going to do so then you need to stand up and protest against ALL Instances of such practices not a single issue. Protesting a single issue because its relevant to your personal interest while ignoring the same thing that happens thousands of time a day in thousands of other places is hypocritical and just demeans the strength of your argument.

So two wrongs make a right?

NO ONE has said anything about this kind of thing being ok in other instances

None of the people crying for boycots are out asking people to boycott other instances of unfair business models either.

[padawanmage]

Cakefish wrote...



As long as they look like they are meant to and not like some wannabe Collector (of which I've seen concept art going around), I'm happy.

I want an actual Prothean not some dumb Collector thanks. They are nothing without their awesome tentacle beard.

True...I remembered these statues, looked at the Collectors and went...'HUH?"  

[N7Infernox]

Modifié par N7Infernox, 23 février 2012 - 12:55 .

[fern222]

Does anyone know if ALL of the DLC in the pack already included in the CE? I know the pro squad member is, but im wondering about the weapon and appearance pack.

[Yuoaman]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

This DLC, in a nutshell, is ME3's equivalent of Shale, Zaeed, and Sebastian. Hardly a new thing, so I don't really see the issue. But whatever.

Except Sebastian had a fairly major role. And the Prothean is the last surviving member of a species that's played a pivotal role in the series thus far... Yeah...

[GnusmasTHX]

The Prothean was the Vega of his era, true story.

[Texaboose]

I wonder what would have happened if EA sold all copies of ME3 for $70 (not Bioware, since they don't determine price), and included Prothy with it, would there be this debate?

[DJBare]

RiouHotaru wrote...

 Since that one guy keeps posting that silly DLC graph, I'll keep posting this tidbit that explains the whole damn thing:

Stanley Woo wrote...

So, like a meal order in a kitchen, the team tries to schedule things so that everything is finished in time to come out together.[/b]

Bad example, I've worked in the kitchens of cafes and restaraunts, the meals are prepared in such a way to get it out to the customer because "food" does not keep, you want to get it to the customer as fresh as possible and not some dried up mess., though in some places I've eaten they don't seem to follow that guideline.

[CatatonicMan]

I was already on the fence about buying this (not a big fan of the ME1 -> ME2 direction change), but it seems Bioware has made my choice for me. I refuse to support this.