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I'm waiting for the fallout in a couple of years or so from the fans if they ask 'when is Mass Effect 4 coming out, how are you taking the ME universe forward?' and Bioware replies 'We're not?', 'why?' ask the fans, 'because there's no pleasing you' says Bioware..... Cue mass hysteria on BSN.


I'm getting tickets and popcorn if that starts to play out.

Modifié par Blarty, 25 février 2012 - 12:17 .


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DaJe wrote...
I heard that before. Dragon Age 2. Biggest fail in Bioware history. Bioware knows that, EA knows that or they wouldn't beg you to buy it by reducing the price so drasticly in such a short time and giving you a better game (ME2) with it for free.
"Vocal minority", yeah right.

Also in the end it's EAs property and it has become very obvious. Bioware, atleast the part that makes important decisions, appear to have stopped caring about the integrity of the franchise. What matters is pleasing EAs shareholders.


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Blarty wrote...

I'm waiting for the fallout in a couple of years or so from the fans if they ask 'when is Mass Effect 4 coming out, how are you taking the ME universe forward?' and Bioware replies 'We're not?', 'why?' ask the fans, 'because there's no pleasing you' says Bioware..... Cue mass hysteria on BSN.


I'm getting tickets and popcorn if that starts to play out.


I'd bet money they won't last that long.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

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The thing with CDProjectRED is the company is doing there best in the department of AAA titles and still value the situation "You buy the game =you buy the support". What we see in ME3 situation is a very dangerous trend "You buy bere minimum and pay more for anything more". One more fact CDProjectRED also making money from the fact they are developing the Witcher series. So it must be economically relevant to keep this kind of attitude for you're gamers.
Let's see. ME2 costed like 60$ right... that is 6$ for squad member (I know this is not exactly a good comparison), Now From Ashes is 10$ for a squad member. I fear too much for this.


EA only seems to do it with Bioware.

Kingdoms of Amular released a couple of weeks ago.

class Equipment DLC - The sort of stuff that makes the game easy. Certainly does nothing to add to the game.

In the box
House of Valour - New area/arena/quests and a special house via online pass.
Bunch of ME3 stuff (no cost).

Now thats the way to do it. The sort of people who bought the CE for items will lap up class packs. They have no affect on anyone else game and the Prothean goes into the online pass.


BobsSmith101, I have been reading your posts and I agree with you about a bunch of things.

Remember when game companies used to release free DLC, not because we were entiltled to it, but because it made customers feel good. And these happy customers made companies like Blizzard (pre-wow) into the super success they are. If you want to be cynical about it, it was free advertising for them.

And then, isn;t it funny when something becomes so successful they conveniently forget what made them so great, probably something to do with the expanded finance department they now have to manage their pile of gold... and become greedy money machines.

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Yuoaman wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

Guys stop comparing BIoware to CDPR, while I enjoy their games as well we're discussing Bioware's DLC here.


It's showing that other companies do free DLC so it seems related.


Bioware has also given free DLC in the past, which relates to this discussion far more than another, much smaller, company.


Oh yes , they were called patches, now they charge  for it :whistle:

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MissOuJ wrote...

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I didn't look at much of the SE pre-release information because I assumed it would be advertised like Zaeed or the Cerberus Network - though that's my own fault for not being as thorough as I should have been.


I actually think that's on BioWare: I only just found out that the multiplayer comes with an online pass for new buyers, so that's the "Zaeed"/new purchase incentive for this round. I think they haven't been as straightforward about that as they could've been.

Thats quite wrong for the XBL users,since they pay monthly for GOLD membership in order to acess and use this " free" content you say.
With zaeed was different,it was free content at beginning available to be downloaded without aditional charge.
So multiplayer pass is not a Zaeed one.

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Oh and btw guys, its not a Prothean the new squad member, he is a collector.

Modifié par Takamori The Templar, 25 février 2012 - 12:24 .


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Takamori The Templar wrote...

Oh and btw guys, its not a Prothean the new squad member, he is a collector.

It is a prothean, Collectors are just genetically modified protheans by the reapers.
This one is a pure prothean that survived the 50000 years of hybernation

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Takamori The Templar wrote...

Oh and btw guys, its not a Prothean the new squad member, he is a collector.


Hence why he's only free in the Collectors Edition?!

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Inc bioware defense force in 3,2,1.....

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Oh right click the image and click view image if you are having a hard time to read.

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The reason they are called collectors is because nobody know who they actually are, they just showed up in our galaxy getting slaves and then disappearing ,hence the nickname for them.
They are genetically modified protheans.
i kn ow how to read and so you should, THEY ARE sharing thew DNA  but their MODIFIED in comparison to the original Protheans. From the picture alone you can see that they look alike but with many differences.

Modifié par LivingHitokiri, 25 février 2012 - 12:32 .


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It is true what K1LL STREAK said though (my quote is not working atm) it was announced months ago that a bonus character and mission would be included in the ce. No one was moaning about how it should be free, or that it was cut content, even though is could easily be assumed that it would be ready for launch. Bioware didn't have to release the same content right away so that it would be avalible to everyone, however they have.
So....how about we all stop and just anticipate the release of Mass Effect 3?

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Yes the screen shows all the relevant lore about prothean genetics and species thingy.
It's a collector.

And if you said that its a Prothean that hibernated for 50k, then you kick in the nuts people who said, ohhh its not relevant , he is optional.

L2read, got you guys
Enjoy.

Modifié par Takamori The Templar, 25 février 2012 - 12:35 .


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LivingHitokiri wrote...

Thats quite wrong for the XBL users,since they pay monthly for GOLD membership in order to acess and use this " free" content you say.
With zaeed was different,it was free content at beginning available to be downloaded without aditional charge.
So multiplayer pass is not a Zaeed one.


But for PS3 and PC users, it is.

I could make the claim that no DLC - whether it was given free of charge by the publisher or not - is actually free, since you need internet access to download it, and you have to pay for internet by yourself...

But I happen to agree with you; the XBL users do get ripped off. Not by BioWare (or even EA) in this case but by Microsoft.

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Ok dumb nuts, since when people start charging for Multiplayer?
Name other company who said: OH WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE TO PUT A MP MODE.
Yeah you can't.

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Takamori The Templar wrote...

Inc bioware defense force in 3,2,1.....

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Yeah, its a retcon. They explain it well enough in the game, so it doesn't bother me, but if you call it a retcon then you must also accept that this character IS a Prothean - that is the nature of a retcon.

You can't claim its a retcon and then claim its not a Prothean. By the very nature of it being a retcon, that is what Protheans look like. Or at least some of the Protheans. All were considered one species, but I can't explain further without delving into spoilers.

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 25 février 2012 - 12:38 .


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Takamori The Templar wrote...

Ok dumb nuts, since when people start charging for Multiplayer?
Name other company who said: OH WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE TO PUT A MP MODE.
Yeah you can't.

Didn't THQ charge for Space Marine's MP mode?

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Anyone else notice where it says "[Protheans] will have a prominent role in ME3" ?

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Candidate 88766 wrote...

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Ok dumb nuts, since when people start charging for Multiplayer?
Name other company who said: OH WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE TO PUT A MP MODE.
Yeah you can't.

Didn't THQ charge for Space Marine's MP mode?


Nope?
I have it btw.

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Takamori The Templar wrote...

Ok dumb nuts, since when people start charging for Multiplayer?
Name other company who said: OH WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE TO PUT A MP MODE.
Yeah you can't.


SOCOM: Confrontation - the entire game is MP only.... So your charged for multiplayer

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Blarty wrote...

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Ok dumb nuts, since when people start charging for Multiplayer?
Name other company who said: OH WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE TO PUT A MP MODE.
Yeah you can't.


SOCOM: Confrontation - the entire game is MP only.... So your charged for multiplayer


The game was built for MP and the players knew it?
It was its marketing purpose?Like Quake Wars?Like Wolfeinstein?
Your argument is invalid.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

Anyone else notice where it says "[Protheans] will have a prominent role in ME3" ?


What happens if the Protheans do have a prominent role in ME3 irrespective of the Prothean squadmate?

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Takamori The Templar wrote...

Ok dumb nuts, since when people start charging for Multiplayer?
Name other company who said: OH WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE TO PUT A MP MODE.
Yeah you can't.


Well, first time for everything...

At about 0:45, you can see the online pass for the multiplayer, and it is said without the pass you won't be able to access the (full?) multiplayer, so the logical conclusion is that poeple who buy used have to pay to unlock the (full?) multiplayer.

Also, let's cut the offensive language.

Modifié par MissOuJ, 25 février 2012 - 12:42 .


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Takamori The Templar wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Ok dumb nuts, since when people start charging for Multiplayer?
Name other company who said: OH WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE TO PUT A MP MODE.
Yeah you can't.

Didn't THQ charge for Space Marine's MP mode?


Nope?
I have it btw.

Ah, it must've been free then. I'm right in thinking it wasn't in the game on launch though? Pretty sure its Space Marine.

Besides, the only company I know that charges for MP is EA, and they only do that if the game isn't new, so I don't see what point you were making.