Takamori The Templar wrote...
Inc bioware defense force in 3,2,1.....
Again, i did posted about protheans /collectors and their importance in ME series, i was of the first complaining about how they reduced such important part of the game to the level of DLC . I do not know how exactly you came to conlusion that i do not find them relevent. I knew about Collectors being protheans since the first time i played mass effect 2,so i do need to learn how to read about something i alreayd knew couple of years ago.Takamori The Templar wrote...
Yes the screen shows all the relevant lore about prothean genetics and species thingy.
It's a collector.
And if you said that its a Prothean that hibernated for 50k, then you kick in the nuts people who said, ohhh its not relevant , he is optional.
MissOuJ wrote...
Takamori The Templar wrote...
Ok dumb nuts, since when people start charging for Multiplayer?
Name other company who said: OH WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE TO PUT A MP MODE.
Yeah you can't.
Well, first time for everything...
At about 0:45, you can see the online pass for the multiplayer, and it is said without the pass you won't be able to access the (full?) multiplayer, so the logical conclusion is, that poeple who buy used have to pay to unlock the (full?) multiplayer.
Also, let's cut the offensive language.
LivingHitokiri wrote...
Again, i did posted about protheans /collectors and their importance in ME series, i was of the first complaining about how they reduced such important part of the game to the level of DLC . I do not know how exactly you came to conlusion that i do not find them relevent. I knew about Collectors being protheans since the first time i played mass effect 2,so i do need to learn how to read about something i alreayd knew couple of years ago.Takamori The Templar wrote...
Yes the screen shows all the relevant lore about prothean genetics and species thingy.
It's a collector.
And if you said that its a Prothean that hibernated for 50k, then you kick in the nuts people who said, ohhh its not relevant , he is optional.
Yes the DLC prothean is the one that survived for 50k years,not a modified one that reapers produced,which makes him to me even more important.
Blarty wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Anyone else notice where it says "[Protheans] will have a prominent role in ME3" ?
What happens if the Protheans do have a prominent role in ME3 irrespective of the Prothean squadmate?
That is correct , if they wanted to make similar to Zaeed situtation then they could allow ME 3 Mp to be played with silver accountskingsims wrote...
XBL users do get a 2 day gold pass so its not all bad I guess. (They can then decide if the game MP is worth playing or not, which is kinda sad still) But i think most Xbox Sliver users will not bother paying more money to even play MP when PC and PS3 users get it free.
So if your an Xbox Sliver user sell your online pass on ebay cause it won't do jack for you!
Modifié par LivingHitokiri, 25 février 2012 - 12:52 .
Thats up to Microsoft, not Bioware or EA.LivingHitokiri wrote...
That is correct , if they wanted to make similar to Zaeed situtation then they could allow ME 3 Mp to be played with silver accountskingsims wrote...
XBL users do get a 2 day gold pass so its not all bad I guess. (They can then decide if the game MP is worth playing or not, which is kinda sad still) But i think most Xbox Sliver users will not bother paying more money to even play MP when PC and PS3 users get it free.
So if your an Xbox Sliver user sell your online pass on ebay cause it won't do jack for you!
BobSmith101 wrote...
Anything I say would be a spoiler.
is kicking off about is not locked behind a pay-gate as envisioned by the Prothean squadmate DLC, and as has been previously suggested, but neither confirmed or denied by Bioware, that the squadmate DLC only allows you to recruit a character that is already, allegedly, a major, interact able NPC in the normal game without DLC, what is the core fundamental issue at the heart of this?..... Day 1 DLC leaving a bad taste in your mouth from a principle point of view (understandable) or the feeling that your missing out on something which you have no idea or otherwise, fills or has the potential to fill in some huge lore gaps in the Mass Effect Universe ( which until you can be appraised of all facts is just going with a misunderstood mob mentality)?
GuyIncognito21 wrote...
SpectreSaren wrote...
Has this been posted in here yet?
That is too perfect.
"Yeah, there's a Mass in Mass Effect. It's a cancerous mass on the side of gaming, it's called Bioware."
"They said the game was $60, that's a lie. The game is $70 ******* dollars."
"Now I have to go find a collector's edition, so I can get all the plastic **** and hang it on my wall like a badge of shame."
"I'm boycotting your game, Bioware. Look what you've made me do."
Modifié par ZX12r Ninja, 25 février 2012 - 12:54 .
Shadowrun1177 wrote...
At the bottom of the page is a whole list of Moderator's would just need to click one of them like Chris Priestly and pm them.
Blarty wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Anything I say would be a spoiler.
Answer the question hypothetically then..... If by some chance, the access to the supposed Prothean lore, that everyone is a) concerned about and
Takamori The Templar wrote...
Sorry for this, but i'm losing patience with people who say OH ITS A COMPANY BLESSING YOU HERETIC, YOU SHOULD PAY IT.
When 1-2 years ago was a free feature.
Prefer to wait to get the Game of the year edition with all the bloody dlcs released while paying the same 59.99.MissOuJ wrote...
Takamori The Templar wrote...
Sorry for this, but i'm losing patience with people who say OH ITS A COMPANY BLESSING YOU HERETIC, YOU SHOULD PAY IT.
When 1-2 years ago was a free feature.
But it is not a conspiracy or a swindle. BioWare have released Day-1 DLC before (like Soldier's Peak and Exiled Prince) and they're known to have new buyer incentives (such as Shale and The Black Emporium). They're just continuing to use their old business model.
If you didn't buy the CE/DDE, you have to pay for the Prothean. It might suck, but then again, I'd much rather had Sebastian as free DLC for new buyers and The Black Emporium as extra DLC, but I at the end of the day, the publishers decide what they offer me, and I can decide wether or not I pay for it.
MissOuJ wrote...
But it is not a conspiracy or a swindle. BioWare have released Day-1 DLC before (like Soldier's Peak and Exiled Prince) and they're known to have new buyer incentives (such as Shale and The Black Emporium). They're just continuing to use their old business model.
If you didn't buy the CE/DDE, you have to pay for the Prothean. It might suck, but then again, I'd much rather had Sebastian as free DLC for new buyers and The Black Emporium as extra DLC, but I at the end of the day, the publishers decide what they offer me, and I can decide wether or not I pay for it.
BobSmith101 wrote...
Blarty wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Anything I say would be a spoiler.
Answer the question hypothetically then..... If by some chance, the access to the supposed Prothean lore, that everyone is a) concerned about and
The emotive side is "It's a Prothean". That's the reason this has snowballed like it has, Protheans have that sort of mystique in the ME universe.
If it had been another human people would not react like this. But the principle would not change.
My personal feeling on the matter is that if we have reached this stage where key parts of the game are now optional. Then packaging rules and regulations need to be changed. Full disclosure of both the game cost and the day 1 DLC cost. People would rightly assume they are getting a complete game, when in fact they are not.
My guess is ME3 failed to live upto EA expecations and they are milking it for all it's worth.
Modifié par ZX12r Ninja, 25 février 2012 - 01:15 .
ZX12r Ninja wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Blarty wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Anything I say would be a spoiler.
Answer the question hypothetically then..... If by some chance, the access to the supposed Prothean lore, that everyone is a) concerned about and
The emotive side is "It's a Prothean". That's the reason this has snowballed like it has, Protheans have that sort of mystique in the ME universe.
If it had been another human people would not react like this. But the principle would not change.
My personal feeling on the matter is that if we have reached this stage where key parts of the game are now optional. Then packaging rules and regulations need to be changed. Full disclosure of both the game cost and the day 1 DLC cost. People would rightly assume they are getting a complete game, when in fact they are not.
My guess is ME3 failed to live upto EA expecations and they are milking it for all it's worth.
Those are your personal feelings and assumption, you complain about something you made up in your mind and which holds no basis in the real world untill the game gets launched.
Protheans are important?
* Protheans were a space fearing species who lived 50.000 years ago,
* they dind't build the relays and they didn't build the Citadel,
* their technology was mostly based on stuff left behind from other species from other cycles,
* they were the last victims of this cycle which is going on,
* they were attacked by the Reapers,
* because of problems of harvesting them the Reapers re purposed them as the collectors and they now serve/used to serve the Reapers.
* Shepard wiped them out in ME2.
The Reapers have been at it for milions of years, every 50.000 years would add upto hundreds maybe thousands of species, do we also need information on those? We know just about everything we need to know about the Protheans, now what about them Reapers?
Modifié par BobSmith101, 25 février 2012 - 01:16 .
Takamori The Templar wrote...
Prefer to wait to get the Game of the year edition with all the bloody dlcs released while paying the same 59.99.
BobSmith101 wrote...
I listed my reasons it's got nothing to do with the Prothean.
The emotive side is "It's a Prothean".
Modifié par ZX12r Ninja, 25 février 2012 - 01:19 .
Blarty wrote...
Sorry, I just like playing Devils Advocate with most peoples opinions, mainly because they're nearly all subjective, thus have holes in them that would embarrass Swiss cheese makers everywhere.... Subjective opinions are overwhelmingly negative, once you make someone have an objective opinion then the outcome is nearly always positive.
The fact is that Day 1 DLC and online passes are overwhelmingly bad for everyone, not because of the idea but because of the implementation and rationale behind them. Online passes are rarely fair and equitable to everyone, and their value is as amorphous as the problem they're allegedly trying to solve - used games.... If you could buy an online pass at the shop alongside your used game, and it was set to be 15 or 20% of the used price, that kind of data is worth far more than the static but opt-out able price of a used game.... You get sales data that they've never had get to see trends,etc that they've had no access to, the retailer doesn't sell a dud game, and if the retailer pushes the used game at a couple of dollars less (inc online pass) than the retail version then still everyone wins..... Thinking 'in principle' doesn't give anyone the full picture.
ZX12r Ninja wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
I listed my reasons it's got nothing to do with the Prothean.
Yes, and like I said those are just an assumption you are making. You assume this DLC is important and you need it to get the complete experience. You assume EA is milking SE buyers out (all the while CE buyers pay 20 bucks more). Those are assumptions you are making which hold no basis in the real world.
As for your comment:The emotive side is "It's a Prothean".
It's just you making it important, while it's not.
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