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[ArkkAngel007]

rainasa wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...
I know 

Worst part is, you PM them the source or where to get the source, and they blow it off anyways.  Just makes you want to splurge it all on here directly where no one can ignore it.

Like so?  http://masseffect.wi...om/wiki/Conduit

no we mean throught ME3 we gain new insight into things like the conduit, and its a major plot point, so if we say anything the mods shall come down faster on us than pastries draw varric

I think you're underestimating Patrick Weeke's...I mean Varric's...love of pastries.

[AlanC9]

O3Hundred wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

O3Hundred wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
If Bio thinks that your position is common among gamers, it gives them an incentive to deliberately delay content for a couple of months. Put the people who were going to work on From Ashes onto TOR, and finish up From Ashes after ME3 ships. (It means they can't use this content for the CE, but OTOH they would now get revenue from CE buyers who would have got the DLC free under the existing plan.)

Yes, but they didn't release it on Day One. On Day One, you want the complete package, but oh no, they decided to cut a part out of the game and make you buy it now, just when you thought that you bought the full package. DLCs' are supposed to make people come back to the game, replay it again, experience something you didn't already experience in that game.

So you'd prefer the DLC to come later, all other things being equal? You'd really rather that they had done what I suggested -- delay From Ashes and put the people who were working on From Ashes onto something else?

They can finish From Ashes, and then move on to other DLC or whatever BioWare is planning. Just wait from releasing it on day one. On day one, people want the full complete game. But when they say, extra content on the same day that you got the so called "complete" package for that day, is very sad.

OK; just wanted to make sure I was following you.

You do know that you can get this exact same result right now, right? Just don't buy From Ashes for a couple of months, and you're in exactly the same place you would be if Bio had done what you suggest.

[O3Hundred]

rainasa wrote...

O3Hundred wrote...


It wasn't cut, more of blocked from access. It is in the demo, that already means something. By "buying" the DLC, you would actually just unblock that content. But that's not my problem, the problem is, that they are making it a Day One DLC. Day One = Full Package, right? But BioWare wants you to spend more money on top of what you already paid.

uhh, no the VO was done in the demo, and that is required to be done by then, just like with kasumi who's VO and early concept model was found on the main disc, the planet eden prime, and everything else about from ashes was not developed untill after the game went into certification

Good to know, I thought the entire DLC was on the disk. But that doesn't change the Day 1 DLC.

[BaronIveagh]

CommanderCoffee wrote...

I don't consider a graveyard a city! *fist shake* (This is nice relief. I'm not being serious, are you?)

It's a city.... of the UNLIVING!  BWA HA HA HA HA!

(Not really at this point)

[N7 Agent]

if this is right then i cant wait to play it

[bennyjammin79]

I'm absolutely certain.

[BaronIveagh]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

I think you're underestimating Patrick Weeke's...I mean Varric's...love of pastries.

BTW: PM sent..

[BTCentral]

O3Hundred wrote...

Good to know, I thought the entire DLC was on the disk. But that doesn't change the Day 1 DLC.

No, the DLC is a 628.18 MB download, for the Xbox 360 at least. It'll likely vary slightly for the other platforms.

[Lufven1]

AlanC9 wrote...

O3Hundred wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
If Bio thinks that your position is common among gamers, it gives them an incentive to deliberately delay content for a couple of months. Put the people who were going to work on From Ashes onto TOR, and finish up From Ashes after ME3 ships. (It means they can't use this content for the CE, but OTOH they would now get revenue from CE buyers who would have got the DLC free under the existing plan.)

Yes, but they didn't release it on Day One. On Day One, you want the complete package, but oh no, they decided to cut a part out of the game and make you buy it now, just when you thought that you bought the full package. DLCs' are supposed to make people come back to the game, replay it again, experience something you didn't already experience in that game.

So you'd prefer the DLC to come later, all other things being equal? You'd really rather that they had done what I suggested -- delay From Ashes and put the people who were working on From Ashes onto something else?

I'm interfering here. Yes, delaying the DLC would make perfect sense actually. Just don't tell the consumers that the DLC was finished on day-one and this debate wouldn't have happened. I don't think ANYONE here would be upset if this DLC was released 1-2 months after the release-day.

[CommanderCoffee]

BaronIveagh wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

I don't consider a graveyard a city! *fist shake* (This is nice relief. I'm not being serious, are you?)

It's a city.... of the UNLIVING!  BWA HA HA HA HA!

(Not really at this point)

Well, I just dug up an ancient Egyptian skeleton clutching a shotgun. The necropolis became zombies and tried to overtake the city of the living. And the Egyptians invented shotguns too. Nobel Prize please!

[O3Hundred]

AlanC9 wrote...

O3Hundred wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

O3Hundred wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
If Bio thinks that your position is common among gamers, it gives them an incentive to deliberately delay content for a couple of months. Put the people who were going to work on From Ashes onto TOR, and finish up From Ashes after ME3 ships. (It means they can't use this content for the CE, but OTOH they would now get revenue from CE buyers who would have got the DLC free under the existing plan.)

Yes, but they didn't release it on Day One. On Day One, you want the complete package, but oh no, they decided to cut a part out of the game and make you buy it now, just when you thought that you bought the full package. DLCs' are supposed to make people come back to the game, replay it again, experience something you didn't already experience in that game.

So you'd prefer the DLC to come later, all other things being equal? You'd really rather that they had done what I suggested -- delay From Ashes and put the people who were working on From Ashes onto something else?

They can finish From Ashes, and then move on to other DLC or whatever BioWare is planning. Just wait from releasing it on day one. On day one, people want the full complete game. But when they say, extra content on the same day that you got the so called "complete" package for that day, is very sad.

OK; just wanted to make sure I was following you.

You do know that you can get this exact same result right now, right? Just don't buy From Ashes for a couple of months, and you're in exactly the same place you would be if Bio had done what you suggest.

Hahaha, I know what you mean. But by the time they would've released it, I would've been playing some other game. Then, they release the DLC, I go back to playing ME3 with something fresh. That is what DLC is. It's just annoying, because when you buy a game for 60$, you get everything that everyone has. But here, I have to pay more for something that is (in my opinion) is very important to the story, on the same day, that I get the game itself.

[DarthSliver]

The way I look it is that the people complaining about this DLC because it all of a sudden is an important DLC and they skipped getting the CE because they assumed it wouldnt are in the wrong of complaining. It isnt Bioware's fault you assumed the DLC wouldnt be awesome, I am glad the DLC like this isnt sticking to only the CE people and that everyone will be able to get him. Heck I dont care if they made all the digital content available from the CE to everyone to purchase as day 1 DLC.

But also agree with people that say Bioware did go at this wrongly but I also blame Microsoft and this situation has become one of damn if your do and damn if you dont typed thing. I do believe this DLC was meant to be a pure surprise when the game came out and Microsoft let the cat out of the bag and now Bioware and ME3 devs are now doing damage control. Like one of my friends said when we were playing ME3 MP yesterday, I think Microsoft is screwing with Bioware because they gave the series, minus ME1, to PS3 fanbase of Bioware.

[O3Hundred]

Lufven1 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

O3Hundred wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
If Bio thinks that your position is common among gamers, it gives them an incentive to deliberately delay content for a couple of months. Put the people who were going to work on From Ashes onto TOR, and finish up From Ashes after ME3 ships. (It means they can't use this content for the CE, but OTOH they would now get revenue from CE buyers who would have got the DLC free under the existing plan.)

Yes, but they didn't release it on Day One. On Day One, you want the complete package, but oh no, they decided to cut a part out of the game and make you buy it now, just when you thought that you bought the full package. DLCs' are supposed to make people come back to the game, replay it again, experience something you didn't already experience in that game.

So you'd prefer the DLC to come later, all other things being equal? You'd really rather that they had done what I suggested -- delay From Ashes and put the people who were working on From Ashes onto something else?

I'm interfering here. Yes, delaying the DLC would make perfect sense actually. Just don't tell the consumers that the DLC was finished on day-one and this debate wouldn't have happened. I don't think ANYONE here would be upset if this DLC was released 1-2 months after the release-day.

Exactly my point.

[obie191970]

Lufven1 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

O3Hundred wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
If Bio thinks that your position is common among gamers, it gives them an incentive to deliberately delay content for a couple of months. Put the people who were going to work on From Ashes onto TOR, and finish up From Ashes after ME3 ships. (It means they can't use this content for the CE, but OTOH they would now get revenue from CE buyers who would have got the DLC free under the existing plan.)

Yes, but they didn't release it on Day One. On Day One, you want the complete package, but oh no, they decided to cut a part out of the game and make you buy it now, just when you thought that you bought the full package. DLCs' are supposed to make people come back to the game, replay it again, experience something you didn't already experience in that game.

So you'd prefer the DLC to come later, all other things being equal? You'd really rather that they had done what I suggested -- delay From Ashes and put the people who were working on From Ashes onto something else?

I'm interfering here. Yes, delaying the DLC would make perfect sense actually. Just don't tell the consumers that the DLC was finished on day-one and this debate wouldn't have happened. I don't think ANYONE here would be upset if this DLC was released 1-2 months after the release-day.

You mean other than the people who bought the CE and were promised an extra character and mission as advertised.

[Kasces]

O3Hundred wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

O3Hundred wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
If Bio thinks that your position is common among gamers, it gives them an incentive to deliberately delay content for a couple of months. Put the people who were going to work on From Ashes onto TOR, and finish up From Ashes after ME3 ships. (It means they can't use this content for the CE, but OTOH they would now get revenue from CE buyers who would have got the DLC free under the existing plan.)

Yes, but they didn't release it on Day One. On Day One, you want the complete package, but oh no, they decided to cut a part out of the game and make you buy it now, just when you thought that you bought the full package. DLCs' are supposed to make people come back to the game, replay it again, experience something you didn't already experience in that game.

So you'd prefer the DLC to come later, all other things being equal? You'd really rather that they had done what I suggested -- delay From Ashes and put the people who were working on From Ashes onto something else?

They can finish From Ashes, and then move on to other DLC or whatever BioWare is planning. Just wait from releasing it on day one. On day one, people want the full complete game. But when they say, extra content on the same day that you got the so called "complete" package for that day, is very sad.

Why does it matter if it's just released later though? If it was always meant to end up as DLC, and you accept that, why not make it available as soon as possible? The criticism that a Prothean is too important to be regulated to DLC is an understandable point, I personally disagree with that as it depends on how he's written, but why would a company not make a DLC with such incentive available as soon as possible if it's going to be DLC no matter what?

[BaronIveagh]

CommanderCoffee wrote...

Well, I just dug up an ancient Egyptian skeleton clutching a shotgun. The necropolis became zombies and tried to overtake the city of the living. And the Egyptians invented shotguns too. Nobel Prize please!

Not so fast, as *I* just dug up a 1973 Delta 88 that was entombed with the pharoh Iron Hand.

[BTCentral]

Lufven1 wrote...

I'm interfering here. Yes, delaying the DLC would make perfect sense actually. Just don't tell the consumers that the DLC was finished on day-one and this debate wouldn't have happened. I don't think ANYONE here would be upset if this DLC was released 1-2 months after the release-day.

BTCentral wrote...

[snipped] at the same time it was not BioWare's fault that Microsoft mucked up for a second time (first time being the beta leak) and posted the DLC to XBL.

If they hadn't - everyone could have continued living in blissful ignorance and BioWare could have announced it a couple of weeks after the game was released for all we know.

However, because Microsoft did muck up, EA/BioWare's hand was forced and they had to announce it - the damage had already been done.

Modifié par BTCentral, 25 février 2012 - 08:38 .

[BaronIveagh]

BTCentral wrote...

Lufven1 wrote...

I'm interfering here. Yes, delaying the DLC would make perfect sense actually. Just don't tell the consumers that the DLC was finished on day-one and this debate wouldn't have happened. I don't think ANYONE here would be upset if this DLC was released 1-2 months after the release-day.

BTCentral wrote...

[snipped] at the same time it was not BioWare's fault that Microsoft mucked up for a second time (first time being the beta leak) and posted the DLC to XBL.

If they hadn't - everyone could have continued living in blissful ignorance and BioWare could have announced it a couple of weeks after the game was released for all we know.

However, because Microsoft did muck up, EA/BioWare's hand was forced and they had to announce it - the damage had already been done.

The problem with that is that Bioware themselves slipped up and announced the same... nine months ago.

[CommanderCoffee]

BaronIveagh wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

Well, I just dug up an ancient Egyptian skeleton clutching a shotgun. The necropolis became zombies and tried to overtake the city of the living. And the Egyptians invented shotguns too. Nobel Prize please!

Not so fast, as *I* just dug up a 1973 Delta 88 that was entombed with the pharoh Iron Hand.

Dug up a Reaper in an ancient Neanderthal tomb.

[O3Hundred]

obie191970 wrote...

Lufven1 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

O3Hundred wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
If Bio thinks that your position is common among gamers, it gives them an incentive to deliberately delay content for a couple of months. Put the people who were going to work on From Ashes onto TOR, and finish up From Ashes after ME3 ships. (It means they can't use this content for the CE, but OTOH they would now get revenue from CE buyers who would have got the DLC free under the existing plan.)

Yes, but they didn't release it on Day One. On Day One, you want the complete package, but oh no, they decided to cut a part out of the game and make you buy it now, just when you thought that you bought the full package. DLCs' are supposed to make people come back to the game, replay it again, experience something you didn't already experience in that game.

So you'd prefer the DLC to come later, all other things being equal? You'd really rather that they had done what I suggested -- delay From Ashes and put the people who were working on From Ashes onto something else?

I'm interfering here. Yes, delaying the DLC would make perfect sense actually. Just don't tell the consumers that the DLC was finished on day-one and this debate wouldn't have happened. I don't think ANYONE here would be upset if this DLC was released 1-2 months after the release-day.

You mean other than the people who bought the CE and were promised an extra character and mission as advertised.

They could easily come up with something for the CE, to replace the Prothean.

[BaronIveagh]

CommanderCoffee wrote...

Dug up a Reaper in an ancient Neanderthal tomb.

*shoots Commander Coffee now that he's been husked.*

[Lufven1]

obie191970 wrote...

Lufven1 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

O3Hundred wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
If Bio thinks that your position is common among gamers, it gives them an incentive to deliberately delay content for a couple of months. Put the people who were going to work on From Ashes onto TOR, and finish up From Ashes after ME3 ships. (It means they can't use this content for the CE, but OTOH they would now get revenue from CE buyers who would have got the DLC free under the existing plan.)

Yes, but they didn't release it on Day One. On Day One, you want the complete package, but oh no, they decided to cut a part out of the game and make you buy it now, just when you thought that you bought the full package. DLCs' are supposed to make people come back to the game, replay it again, experience something you didn't already experience in that game.

So you'd prefer the DLC to come later, all other things being equal? You'd really rather that they had done what I suggested -- delay From Ashes and put the people who were working on From Ashes onto something else?

I'm interfering here. Yes, delaying the DLC would make perfect sense actually. Just don't tell the consumers that the DLC was finished on day-one and this debate wouldn't have happened. I don't think ANYONE here would be upset if this DLC was released 1-2 months after the release-day.

You mean other than the people who bought the CE and were promised an extra character and mission as advertised.

They shouldn't have advertised that in the first place. That's not the issue here at all. It's that fact that the DLC is there on release and not available to all the consumers (unless you open up your wallet).

[CommanderCoffee]

BaronIveagh wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

Dug up a Reaper in an ancient Neanderthal tomb.

*shoots Commander Coffee now that he's been husked.*

Oh ho! That will not work, becau- *SCREECHES*

[obie191970]

BaronIveagh wrote...

BTCentral wrote...

Lufven1 wrote...

I'm interfering here. Yes, delaying the DLC would make perfect sense actually. Just don't tell the consumers that the DLC was finished on day-one and this debate wouldn't have happened. I don't think ANYONE here would be upset if this DLC was released 1-2 months after the release-day.

BTCentral wrote...

[snipped] at the same time it was not BioWare's fault that Microsoft mucked up for a second time (first time being the beta leak) and posted the DLC to XBL.

If they hadn't - everyone could have continued living in blissful ignorance and BioWare could have announced it a couple of weeks after the game was released for all we know.

However, because Microsoft did muck up, EA/BioWare's hand was forced and they had to announce it - the damage had already been done.

The problem with that is that Bioware themselves slipped up and announced the same... nine months ago.

Nobody seemed to care back then.  That was the time for this discussion to take place.  Maybe then it could have been addressed.

[DarthSliver]

The way I look it is that the people complaining about this DLC because it all of a sudden is an important DLC and they skipped getting the CE because they assumed it wouldnt are in the wrong of complaining. It isnt Bioware's fault you assumed the DLC wouldnt be awesome, I am glad the DLC like this isnt sticking to only the CE people and that everyone will be able to get him. Heck I dont care if they made all the digital content available from the CE to everyone to purchase as day 1 DLC.

But also agree with people that say Bioware did go at this wrongly but I also blame Microsoft and this situation has become one of damn if your do and damn if you dont typed thing. I do believe this DLC was meant to be a pure surprise when the game came out and Microsoft let the cat out of the bag and now Bioware and ME3 devs are now doing damage control. Like one of my friends said when we were playing ME3 MP yesterday, I think Microsoft is screwing with Bioware because they gave the series, minus ME1, to PS3 fanbase of Bioware.