While that's true, they still managed to cover that up pretty effectively. (I'm not going to say they lied/denied it, because they didn't - they just chose their words very carefully).BaronIveagh wrote...
The problem with that is that Bioware themselves slipped up and announced the same... nine months ago.
Modifié par ironcreed2, 25 février 2012 - 08:43 .
obie191970 wrote...
Nobody seemed to care back then. That was the time for this discussion to take place. Maybe then it could have been addressed.
Modifié par BaronIveagh, 25 février 2012 - 08:44 .
BaronIveagh wrote...
It was, and Chris Preistly claimed it had been removed. And people belived him.obie191970 wrote...
Nobody seemed to care back then. That was the time for this discussion to take place. Maybe then it could have been addressed.
He claimed the advertising contained old wording. He never claimed it had been removed.BTCentral wrote...
While that's true, they still managed to cover that up pretty effectively.
(I'm not going to say they lied/denied it, because they didn't - they just chose their words very carefully).
A lot of people that were not following the forums closely would not have known about that.
Modifié par BTCentral, 25 février 2012 - 08:45 .
Lufven1 wrote...
obie191970 wrote...
You mean other than the people who bought the CE and were promised an extra character and mission as advertised.
They shouldn't have advertised that in the first place. That's not the issue here at all. It's that fact that the DLC is there on release and not available to all the consumers (unless you open up your wallet).
obie191970 wrote...
Nobody seemed to care back then. That was the time for this discussion to take place. Maybe then it could have been addressed.
obie191970 wrote...
What do you mean they
shouldn't have advertised it? That was the main selling point to begin
with. I will guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of CE buyers
bought it specifically for that reason.
Modifié par rainasa, 25 février 2012 - 08:46 .
BTCentral wrote...
He claimed the advertising contained old wording. He never claimed it had been removed.
Kasces wrote...
O3Hundred wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
O3Hundred wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
If Bio thinks that your position is common among gamers, it gives them an incentive to deliberately delay content for a couple of months. Put the people who were going to work on From Ashes onto TOR, and finish up From Ashes after ME3 ships. (It means they can't use this content for the CE, but OTOH they would now get revenue from CE buyers who would have got the DLC free under the existing plan.)
Yes, but they didn't release it on Day One. On Day One, you want the complete package, but oh no, they decided to cut a part out of the game and make you buy it now, just when you thought that you bought the full package. DLCs' are supposed to make people come back to the game, replay it again, experience something you didn't already experience in that game.
So you'd prefer the DLC to come later, all other things being equal? You'd really rather that they had done what I suggested -- delay From Ashes and put the people who were working on From Ashes onto something else?
They can finish From Ashes, and then move on to other DLC or whatever BioWare is planning. Just wait from releasing it on day one. On day one, people want the full complete game. But when they say, extra content on the same day that you got the so called "complete" package for that day, is very sad.
Why does it matter if it's just released later though? If it was always meant to end up as DLC, and you accept that, why not make it available as soon as possible? The criticism that a Prothean is too important to be regulated to DLC is an understandable point, I personally disagree with that as it depends on how he's written, but why would a company not make a DLC with such incentive available as soon as possible if it's going to be DLC no matter what?
Modifié par O3Hundred, 25 février 2012 - 08:50 .
Let me know when I should stop reading then.ArkkAngel007 wrote...
rainasa wrote...
spolier finger itching....no! no! I must resist!
I know
Worst part is, you PM them the source or where to get the source, and they blow it off anyways. Just makes you want to splurge it all on here directly where no one can ignore it.
obie191970 wrote...
Lufven1 wrote...
obie191970 wrote...
You mean other than the people who bought the CE and were promised an extra character and mission as advertised.
They shouldn't have advertised that in the first place. That's not the issue here at all. It's that fact that the DLC is there on release and not available to all the consumers (unless you open up your wallet).
What do you mean they shouldn't have advertised it? That was the main selling point to begin with. I will guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of CE buyers bought it specifically for that reason.
O3Hundred wrote...
I don't know about you, but when I buy a game on its official release day, I want to have everything the game has to offer on release day. But they come out and say that they already have additional content for the game. So what not? If we support this, by buying the DLC, this could become a trend, which will ruin what DLCs are for. Not only will you pay 60$ for the game, not get everything the game has to offer for that moment. But you will be forced to pay even more for the DLC, which was supposed to be in the package you bought.
_symphony wrote...
Let me know when I should stop reading then.ArkkAngel007 wrote...
rainasa wrote...
spolier finger itching....no! no! I must resist!
I know
Worst part is, you PM them the source or where to get the source, and they blow it off anyways. Just makes you want to splurge it all on here directly where no one can ignore it.
obie191970 wrote...
O3Hundred wrote...
I don't know about you, but when I buy a game on its official release day, I want to have everything the game has to offer on release day. But they come out and say that they already have additional content for the game. So what not? If we support this, by buying the DLC, this could become a trend, which will ruin what DLCs are for. Not only will you pay 60$ for the game, not get everything the game has to offer for that moment. But you will be forced to pay even more for the DLC, which was supposed to be in the package you bought.
No, it was supposed to be in the package for the $20 more expensive CE. SE buyers are given the option to purchase a part of that package for $10. This is not new information - People have known they were doing this for a long time. I think the fact that they chose a Prothean as the DLC is more of an issue. While not important to the game, anyone who has played the previous two is understandably going to want the chance to recruit a Prothean.
obie191970 wrote...
No, it was supposed to be in the package for the $20 more expensive CE. SE buyers are given the option to purchase a part of that package for $10. This is not new information - People have known they were doing this for a long time. I think the fact that they chose a Prothean as the DLC is more of an issue. While not important to the game, anyone who has played the previous two is understandably going to want the chance to recruit a Prothean.
Modifié par rainasa, 25 février 2012 - 08:59 .
obie191970 wrote...
Lufven1 wrote...
obie191970 wrote...
You mean other than the people who bought the CE and were promised an extra character and mission as advertised.
They shouldn't have advertised that in the first place. That's not the issue here at all. It's that fact that the DLC is there on release and not available to all the consumers (unless you open up your wallet).
What do you mean they shouldn't have advertised it? That was the main selling point to begin with. I will guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of CE buyers bought it specifically for that reason.
Modifié par Aemony, 25 février 2012 - 08:58 .
Lufven1 wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
So you'd prefer the DLC to come later, all other things being equal? You'd really rather that they had done what I suggested -- delay From Ashes and put the people who were working on From Ashes onto something else?
I'm interfering here. Yes, delaying the DLC would make perfect sense actually. Just don't tell the consumers that the DLC was finished on day-one and this debate wouldn't have happened. I don't think ANYONE here would be upset if this DLC was released 1-2 months after the release-day.
obie191970 wrote...
O3Hundred wrote...
I don't know about you, but when I buy a game on its official release day, I want to have everything the game has to offer on release day. But they come out and say that they already have additional content for the game. So what not? If we support this, by buying the DLC, this could become a trend, which will ruin what DLCs are for. Not only will you pay 60$ for the game, not get everything the game has to offer for that moment. But you will be forced to pay even more for the DLC, which was supposed to be in the package you bought.
No, it was supposed to be in the package for the $20 more expensive CE. SE buyers are given the option to purchase a part of that package for $10. This is not new information - People have known they were doing this for a long time. I think the fact that they chose a Prothean as the DLC is more of an issue. While not important to the game, anyone who has played the previous two is understandably going to want the chance to recruit a Prothean.
O3Hundred wrote...
obie191970 wrote...
O3Hundred wrote...
I don't know about you, but when I buy a game on its official release day, I want to have everything the game has to offer on release day. But they come out and say that they already have additional content for the game. So what not? If we support this, by buying the DLC, this could become a trend, which will ruin what DLCs are for. Not only will you pay 60$ for the game, not get everything the game has to offer for that moment. But you will be forced to pay even more for the DLC, which was supposed to be in the package you bought.
No, it was supposed to be in the package for the $20 more expensive CE. SE buyers are given the option to purchase a part of that package for $10. This is not new information - People have known they were doing this for a long time. I think the fact that they chose a Prothean as the DLC is more of an issue. While not important to the game, anyone who has played the previous two is understandably going to want the chance to recruit a Prothean.
Exactly. I mean, if it was some new characters from the current races, then sure. It wouldn't be a problem. But what also bothers me, is that its Day 1 Release. If BioWare makes enough money from this "deal", other companies could notice this, and make a habit of it. So essencially, you will stop paying 60$ for a game. And I am not happy with that thought.
AlanC9 wrote...
Lufven1 wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
So you'd prefer the DLC to come later, all other things being equal? You'd really rather that they had done what I suggested -- delay From Ashes and put the people who were working on From Ashes onto something else?
I'm interfering here. Yes, delaying the DLC would make perfect sense actually. Just don't tell the consumers that the DLC was finished on day-one and this debate wouldn't have happened. I don't think ANYONE here would be upset if this DLC was released 1-2 months after the release-day.
Thanks.
This strikes me as being so irrational that I'm not sure how to respond to it.
Aemony wrote...
obie191970 wrote...
Lufven1 wrote...
obie191970 wrote...
You mean other than the people who bought the CE and were promised an extra character and mission as advertised.
They shouldn't have advertised that in the first place. That's not the issue here at all. It's that fact that the DLC is there on release and not available to all the consumers (unless you open up your wallet).
What do you mean they shouldn't have advertised it? That was the main selling point to begin with. I will guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of CE buyers bought it specifically for that reason.
Why is that? I mean, CEs have sold a ton since time immemorial without specific added in-game content. A lot of CEs ships quite a ton of units merely for the bonuses outside of the game, such as the soundtrack, an art book, or other random bonus item. Exclusive game content available in a limited special edition is an entirely new thing, and there's no reason to suggest that this matters more from a consumer perspective than all the other bonuses combined.
Heck, reading through the advertisement of the CE again and I notice that the existence of the character DLC takes a backseat position in favor of practically everything else. It's squeezed in besides other more elaborated small DLCs and in the form of an inner, less important, bullet point as opposed to being a major bullet point.
Modifié par obie191970, 25 février 2012 - 09:06 .
AlanC9 wrote...
Thanks.
This strikes me as being so irrational that I'm not sure how to respond to it.
Aemony wrote...
Collectors Edition contains
• Premium metal case featuring commemorative artwork of Commander Shepard.
• 70-page hardbound art book featuring hundreds of unique and gorgeous illustrations from the BioWare development team.
• Limited edition Mass Effect comic by Dark Horse Comics, complete with unique cover artwork.
• Join the ranks of the N7 with the premium fabric N7 patch.
• Exclusive 4x6 lithographic print featuring a one-of-a-kind piece of artwork.
• A full collection of in-game content that can’t be found anywhere else!
o N7 Arsenal Pack – Bring the firepower with the N7 Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, SMG, and Pistol.
o Access to an additional downloadable mission and character
o Mechdog Companion – A faithful sidekick to keep you company on board the Normandy.
o Squadmate Alternate Outfit Pack – New appearances for your favorite squad members.
o N7 Hoodie – For Commander Shepard’s casual days on board the Normandy.
• Relive all the greatest moments of Mass Effect 3 with the digital soundtrack.
• Display your initiation in the N7 ranks with a collection of forum and social badges, avatars, and perks.
Retour en haut
