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[Eckswhyzed]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Okay, so let me get this straight:

- “From Ashes” includes the Prothean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate appearance for every squad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are in addition to the ones already advertised in the CE.

Is ALL OF THIS STUFF still in the N7 edition?

Yep.

EDIT: 'd

Modifié par Eckswhyzed, 23 février 2012 - 01:04 .

[V1per7]

El Ejcovero wrote...

Xero759 wrote...

Looks like a quick money grab.

Any fan of Mass Effect will tell you that the new squad member just seems too important to be something that is downloaded instead of being on the disc. Based on the pack-in dlc for ME2, this seems like something that should come with new copies of the game.

In short, I feel like I'm being cheated when I feel obligated to spend an extra 10$ on launch to get the full ME3 experience.

And so we are being cheated... Shameful Bioware, shameful...

yes. they are exploiting their fan. they know we want mass effect 3 and they take this opportunity to catch us off guard, thinking we would be so stupid to fall into their trap.

[Texaboose]

N7Infernox wrote...

Texaboose wrote...

I wonder what would have happened if EA sold all copies of ME3 for $70 (not Bioware, since they don't determine price), and included Prothy with it, would there be this debate?

No, we'd be debating as to why we were paying an extra $10 for no reason.

But you'd still buy it, annoyed at the price hike, but not frothing at the mouth in boycott frenzy, right?
Trying to figure out the mindset where $60 for the game is cool, since it's always been done that way, but $70 is uncool.

Hell, I'm of the opinion that games should be $30, but am also of the opinion that this is an optional extra.

[GnusmasTHX]

Vasiliii wrote...

You cut a Prothean from the game and then tried to sell it as on launch DLC?


How is this even ethical? I'm not buying ME3 and I won't pirate it (that would just give you more ammo against the PC gamers wouldn't it?).

What a way to end a franchise, by milking the fans.

Ethical, lol.

That horse is pretty high.

[Nashiktal]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Okay, so let me get this straight:

- “From Ashes” includes the Prothean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate appearance for every squad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are in addition to the ones already advertised in the CE.

Is ALL OF THIS STUFF still in the N7 edition?

Yup. Its just "free" with the N7 addition. In otherwords, most of the N7 digital stuff is being sold to those who didn't get the N7 edition.

My feelings are mixed on this, as most of the non digital stuff in the N7 was sub par, and the fact I can get most of it seperately kinda lessens the value in my eyes.

More power to the people who don't need the limited edition though. Also still mad at the DLC itself.

[Draconis6666]

Vasiliii wrote...

You cut a Prothean from the game and then tried to sell it as on launch DLC?


How is this even ethical? I'm not buying ME3 and I won't pirate it (that would just give you more ammo against the PC gamers wouldn't it?).

What a way to end a franchise, by milking the fans.

perfectly ethical, its no different from selling you a CD player for your car as extra, its arguably just as important to your ability to drive the car as having a prothean in game is to your ability to play ME 3

[RiouHotaru]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Okay, so let me get this straight:

- “From Ashes” includes the Prothean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate appearance for every squad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are in addition to the ones already advertised in the CE.

Is ALL OF THIS STUFF still in the N7 edition?

Yes, N7 and CE are one in the same, Cheez.

[Giantdeathrobot]

Again, if he doesn't do anything special plot-wise and is ''just a soldier'', why in hell did they dig up a Prothean then? What's the point of a having a 50 000 old member of the extinct race whose legacy has driven the plot of the whole series to this point if he is just another gun in our squad? If he really IS like Zaeed, no dialog wheel and no meaningful interaction, why the hell is he a Prothean in the first place?

[N7Infernox]

Draconis6666 wrote...



The fact is this simply isnt true, from a business standpoint this outrage is minor and will impact sales very little because the average consumer will never know it existed. 

That could be changed, of course...

[Major Alenko]

If Bioware hadn't of bothered to make this accessible to everyone, and just kept it as the N7 exclusive, no one would have cared.

[realguile]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Okay, so let me get this straight:

- “From Ashes” includes the Prothean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate appearance for every squad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are in addition to the ones already advertised in the CE.

Is ALL OF THIS STUFF still in the N7 edition?

yes

[Takamori The Templar]

Vasiliii wrote...

You cut a Prothean from the game and then tried to sell it as on launch DLC?


How is this even ethical? I'm not buying ME3 and I won't pirate it (that would just give you more ammo against the PC gamers wouldn't it?).

What a way to end a franchise, by milking the fans.

Yes they know that the bioware game design is going down the hill.
And the only thing holding the old fans is Mass Effect , some people need to finish the series.
Then these people will drop, will get tired of bioware ****ty design and marketing plans.So their thoughts ,oh lets milk the last dime from these suckers so we can fully support the Call of Duty/Gears of Wars audience

[HighFlyingDwarf]

NoxJuked wrote...

Mass Effect 1 & 2 provided free certain free DLC granted I agree they weren't exactly prothean status(I actually think this is a very smart move because everyone will want the DLC). They don't push out a games like Mass Effect every single year and this is the last of the Mass Effect universe most likely, so if they want to actually charge for DLC this time around let them.

It's not an excuse, and you're right, it is a very smart move on the part of the developer to increase what is already an incredibly highly monetised project. Just because they're smart doesn't mean that it's right to take parts out.

[Hatire]

This is a complete load of garbage, it is absolutely sickening and unethical and nothing but a quick money grab from a company that used to be respectable. You've gone downhill quickly BioWare since you sold your soul to EA. If I still get ME3, it will be the last game I will be buying from you for a long time if this is the way you are going to be conducting your business from here on out.

[Cakefish]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

padawanmage wrote...
True...I remembered these statues, looked at the Collectors and went...'HUH?"  

It's in the Mass Effect Universe art book that it's basically a retcon.

Oh that's just great. Yeah feel free to destroy the coolest looking aliens in the whole series Bioware (well, bar the Reapers).

Huh, I thought the Collectors looked like they did because of HUGE amounts of crazy genetic manipulation on behalf of the Reapers.

I am VERY VERY disappoint

Modifié par Cakefish, 23 février 2012 - 01:06 .

[Draconis6666]

N7Infernox wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...



The fact is this simply isnt true, from a business standpoint this outrage is minor and will impact sales very little because the average consumer will never know it existed. 

That could be changed, of course...

Unlikely the average consumer doesnt even read reviews let alone forums or game news sites or youtube videos.

[Takamori The Templar]

Draconis6666 wrote...

Vasiliii wrote...

You cut a Prothean from the game and then tried to sell it as on launch DLC?


How is this even ethical? I'm not buying ME3 and I won't pirate it (that would just give you more ammo against the PC gamers wouldn't it?).

What a way to end a franchise, by milking the fans.

perfectly ethical, its no different from selling you a CD player for your car as extra, its arguably just as important to your ability to drive the car as having a prothean in game is to your ability to play ME 3

You mean selling the car without the protecting glass.

HEY YOU CAN RUN THE CAR WITH NO PROBLEM SIR.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Again why bother bringing back something long dead if it idn't going to have an impact.

For all we know the last Prothean could have had a vision and be able to tell Shepard exactly what will happen next etc or know of a way to kill the Reapers but never had the chance to utilize it.

Yes, this is biggest issue with this. Why the hell did they bother to bring back a prothean if it isn't a big deal in the game? He should be plot integral for someone that is this interesting, THE LAST LIVING PROTHEAN ffs. He should be someone very important in ME3, someone close to Shepard on the adventure, but no, just something optional. Why bother? It's a missed oportunity for this character. Instead, they make this character optional. It will be ultimately disappointing in any way because it will of course fill some misteries on the protheans but it won't add anything on the plot.

My suggestion for the ones who goes with standard edition: watch the mission on Youtube and don't bother like Bioware didn't with him for the game. Just optional.

[Sargerus]

to all you ppl saying "OMG its unethical, disgusting, etc."

Welcome to the business world.

[TK EL_]

RiouHotaru wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Do we know what the price of the DLC will be for SE owners?

10$

I think it would have been more reasonable for it to be <$5. Unless it was 2-3 hours of gameplay ofcourse.

It's a squad-member, a mission a weapon and an alternate appearance for EVERY squad-member.

That's worth 10 bucks to me.  Kasumi cost the same too.

Not true. Kasumi was 560 MS points

[RiouHotaru]

Oh, I decided to adjust the "DLC chart" to properly reflect what's actually happening:

Modifié par RiouHotaru, 23 février 2012 - 01:10 .

[GnusmasTHX]

Cakefish wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

padawanmage wrote...
True...I remembered these statues, looked at the Collectors and went...'HUH?"  

It's in the Mass Effect Universe art book that it's basically a retcon.

Oh that's just great. Yeah feel free to destroy the coolest looking aliens in the whole series Bioware (well, bar the Reapers).

Huh, I thought the Collectors looked like they did because of HUGE amounts of crazy genetic manipulation on behalf of the Reapers.

I am VERY VERY disappoint

The cosmetic surgery has been retconned to less major.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 23 février 2012 - 01:08 .

[Bluumberry]

suntzuxi wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

This DLC, in a nutshell, is ME3's equivalent of Shale, Zaeed, and Sebastian. Hardly a new thing, so I don't really see the issue. But whatever.

it's different. Shale, Zaeed, and Sebastian are all free to download and not really that important in lore and story.  But this protheam makes me feel like cutting Zevran from Origins or Merril from Dragon Age II and asking you to pay more money.

Sebastian was not free.