Amikae wrote...
- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.
Complete BS.
$60 is not an outrage because I'm getting a significant amount of content for that price. However, the extra $10 isn't justified for the simple fact that it doesn't land anywhere close to what $10 of the original game got me.Candidate 88766 wrote...
On its own, the DLC seems expensively priced.Dionkey wrote...
You clearly missed the part where I pointed out that you're paying for 1/6 of the price of the game for not even 1/20 of the content.Candidate 88766 wrote...
$60 - bargain
$70 - OUTRAGE
However, given that ME3 itself is going to have great value for money content-wise, I don't get the uproar. If $60 for ME3 is a really good deal, then surely $70 for ME3 is still a pretty good deal - and you get an extra character.
Day one DLC is still wrong, unethical. Definitely boycottbboynexus wrote...
I think Mike's wording is very deliberate here:
SQUAD MATE.
Not CHARACTER.
Wardka wrote...
Eain wrote...
I really want people to understand what's going on. I realise that there are some children around here (and with that I mean actual children and thus people inexperienced in the ways of corporations, not intended as an insult in any way) who are simply trying to defend the people who produce their favourite games, but it's up to the rest of us who are older to explain how things are going to unfold.
If we allow EA to do this to us, then there will come a time where we pay 60 dollars for a barebone launch title and then fork out another 25 to 40 dollars for Day One DLC that gives us content that's been withheld from the launch disk for no other reason than that we allowed it.
Publishers don't care for the people buying their games, they care for the wallets their money is coming from. If you do not believe that, you are fooling yourself and I mean that in the least offensive way I possibly could. We all fool ourselves every now and then, and sometimes we run into something we enjoy so much that we just want to pretend there's nothing wrong, but trust me EA's head honcho's and shareholders are laughing themselves all the way to the bank if we let them.
Draw the line.
One game, one sale.
Couldn't have said it better myself. It's really difficult to understand how anyone could defend this business practice. We do NOT get more content this way. We get the SAME amount of content for a higher price tag.
Wardka wrote...
Eain wrote...
I really want people to understand what's going on. I realise that there are some children around here (and with that I mean actual children and thus people inexperienced in the ways of corporations, not intended as an insult in any way) who are simply trying to defend the people who produce their favourite games, but it's up to the rest of us who are older to explain how things are going to unfold.
If we allow EA to do this to us, then there will come a time where we pay 60 dollars for a barebone launch title and then fork out another 25 to 40 dollars for Day One DLC that gives us content that's been withheld from the launch disk for no other reason than that we allowed it.
Publishers don't care for the people buying their games, they care for the wallets their money is coming from. If you do not believe that, you are fooling yourself and I mean that in the least offensive way I possibly could. We all fool ourselves every now and then, and sometimes we run into something we enjoy so much that we just want to pretend there's nothing wrong, but trust me EA's head honcho's and shareholders are laughing themselves all the way to the bank if we let them.
Draw the line.
One game, one sale.
Couldn't have said it better myself. It's really difficult to understand how anyone could defend this business practice. We do NOT get more content this way. We get the SAME amount of content for a higher price tag.
you actually beleive what he said?ACSSolver wrote...
- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.
Interesting. I wonder whether this includes a different writing team, too. While I think it will be fascinating to talk to a Prothean, my one concern is that his appearance should be consistent with the rest of the story - the Protheans have been extinct for 50 thousand years, so this guy's appearance needs some good writing.
That's like someone selling you a car and taking out the backseats and trying to sell you them for 1/6 the price of the car. "Don't want em? Oh well, it's optional!"J.amber wrote...
Dionkey wrote...
You clearly missed the part where I pointed out that you're paying for 1/6 of the price of the game for not even 1/20 of the content.Candidate 88766 wrote...
$60 - bargain
$70 - OUTRAGE
and who's forcing you to buy it, dlc is optional ... that's the thing, all this whiney stuff over something that one doesn't even need to finish the actual game and if $10 is gonna break someone's bank, then perhaps it's a good idea to not even consider buying DLC <_<
Eain wrote...
I really want people to understand what's going on. I realise that there are some children around here (and with that I mean actual children and thus people inexperienced in the ways of corporations, not intended as an insult in any way) who are simply trying to defend the people who produce their favourite games, but it's up to the rest of us who are older to explain how things are going to unfold.
If we allow EA to do this to us, then there will come a time where we pay 60 dollars for a barebone launch title and then fork out another 25 to 40 dollars for Day One DLC that gives us content that's been withheld from the launch disk for no other reason than that we allowed it.
Publishers don't care for the people buying their games, they care for the wallets their money is coming from. If you do not believe that, you are fooling yourself and I mean that in the least offensive way I possibly could. We all fool ourselves every now and then, and sometimes we run into something we enjoy so much that we just want to pretend there's nothing wrong, but trust me EA's head honcho's and shareholders are laughing themselves all the way to the bank if we let them.
Draw the line.
One game, one sale.
Daywalker315 wrote...
So don't buy it ... Send your message that way. I don't hate on anyone who chooses not to buy DLC. But a single piece of DLC given as part of the collector's edition offered to standard version buyers for $10 is not some inexcusable business practice. I'm guessing the main game is plenty large and will be lots of hours of entertainment and you can certainly finish the game without the Prothean. In fact, I still believe he will be in the game for story purposes whether you have the DLC to get him as a squad mate or not.
saturos2 wrote...
you actually beleive what he said?ACSSolver wrote...
- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.
Interesting. I wonder whether this includes a different writing team, too. While I think it will be fascinating to talk to a Prothean, my one concern is that his appearance should be consistent with the rest of the story - the Protheans have been extinct for 50 thousand years, so this guy's appearance needs some good writing.
$60 - significant amount of contentDionkey wrote...
$60 is not an outrage because I'm getting a significant amount of content for that price. However, the extra $10 isn't justified for the simple fact that it doesn't land anywhere close to what $10 of the original game got me.Candidate 88766 wrote...
On its own, the DLC seems expensively priced.Dionkey wrote...
You clearly missed the part where I pointed out that you're paying for 1/6 of the price of the game for not even 1/20 of the content.Candidate 88766 wrote...
$60 - bargain
$70 - OUTRAGE
However, given that ME3 itself is going to have great value for money content-wise, I don't get the uproar. If $60 for ME3 is a really good deal, then surely $70 for ME3 is still a pretty good deal - and you get an extra character.
Redzhül wrote...
Amikae wrote...
- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.
Complete BS.
Not to mention that the leaked scripts of early Mass Effect 3 dialogue INCLUDES THE PROTHEAN. So obviously it wasnt after the game was completed. Why do you guys at Bioware enjoy lying and alienating your fanbase?
Bravo, sir. Hit the nail on the head.Eain wrote...
I really want people to understand what's going on. I realise that there are some children around here (and with that I mean actual children and thus people inexperienced in the ways of corporations, not intended as an insult in any way) who are simply trying to defend the people who produce their favourite games, but it's up to the rest of us who are older to explain how things are going to unfold.
If we allow EA to do this to us, then there will come a time where we pay 60 dollars for a barebone launch title and then fork out another 25 to 40 dollars for Day One DLC that gives us content that's been withheld from the launch disk for no other reason than that we allowed it.
Publishers don't care for the people buying their games, they care for the wallets their money is coming from. If you do not believe that, you are fooling yourself and I mean that in the least offensive way I possibly could. We all fool ourselves every now and then, and sometimes we run into something we enjoy so much that we just want to pretend there's nothing wrong, but trust me EA's head honcho's and shareholders are laughing themselves all the way to the bank if we let them.
Draw the line.
One game, one sale.
Eragondragonrider wrote...
YAY MY CE Edition became 10x better because I get it for FREE!!!
JosephCurwen wrote...
Eain wrote...
I really want people to understand what's going on. I realise that there are some children around here (and with that I mean actual children and thus people inexperienced in the ways of corporations, not intended as an insult in any way) who are simply trying to defend the people who produce their favourite games, but it's up to the rest of us who are older to explain how things are going to unfold.
If we allow EA to do this to us, then there will come a time where we pay 60 dollars for a barebone launch title and then fork out another 25 to 40 dollars for Day One DLC that gives us content that's been withheld from the launch disk for no other reason than that we allowed it.
Publishers don't care for the people buying their games, they care for the wallets their money is coming from. If you do not believe that, you are fooling yourself and I mean that in the least offensive way I possibly could. We all fool ourselves every now and then, and sometimes we run into something we enjoy so much that we just want to pretend there's nothing wrong, but trust me EA's head honcho's and shareholders are laughing themselves all the way to the bank if we let them.
Draw the line.
One game, one sale.
Very well put.
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