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[ArkkAngel007]

AlanC9 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

_symphony wrote...

the correct analogy is play ME without Wrex

Nope, because Wrex is central to go through Tali if you recruit him.

Is he really? IIRC you don't have to add him to the squad.

But he still has the ability to be essential to the plot.  The Prothean does not.  He isn't a part of the plot at all.

Again, let's not reset this thread back to the beginning.  

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 26 février 2012 - 04:34 .

[BaronIveagh]

Dragoonlordz wrote...
Now if you don't mind I would rather not sink to your level anymore than already have. So like always your childish attacks and rants shall from this point on be ignored.

Coward. 

'I'm just gonna ignore you!' 

Yeah, becasue you havn't won once yet.

Modifié par BaronIveagh, 26 février 2012 - 04:38 .

[AlanC9]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...
Nope, because Wrex is central to go through Tali if you recruit him.

Is he really? IIRC you don't have to add him to the squad.

But he still has the ability to be essential to the plot.  The Prothean does not, as he doesn't have that ability.

Hmm... I'm not sure someone optional can really be described as "essential." But I think this is just semantics. It's certainly irrelevant to the thread topic, so I'm happy to drop it.

Modifié par AlanC9, 26 février 2012 - 04:38 .

[Dragoonlordz]

The Prothean is not part of the main plot, he is however part of the lore. But being part of the lore instead of the main plot he is not essential to the completion of the game even if adds enjoyment to your playing of it when present. There is also the element of Jessicas reply on Reddit where implied the context and exposition of his presence may be covered in the game even if not part of your squad.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 26 février 2012 - 04:40 .

[GnusmasTHX]

Dragoonlordz wrote...


In general I have noticed not many people like Bioware points due to the nature of paying for more than need. In this regard through Origin/XBL/PSN and only paying exact amount should make those people happier.

I better be able to redeem my 80 points.

I want my 5 cents BioWare!

[Dragoonlordz]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...


In general I have noticed not many people like Bioware points due to the nature of paying for more than need. In this regard through Origin/XBL/PSN and only paying exact amount should make those people happier.

I better be able to redeem my 80 points.

I want my 5 cents BioWare!

 I hear you. I got spare points left over from ME2 as well.

[kingsims]

That picture some of you keep posting is not how software development works. Go read up agile development or the waterfall model, that is not how it works at all. If the development team was following Agile then this "module" would have been shipped with the final RTM as an add-on .

You can have separate teams in agile working towards a single project and its more like a plug-in or module that you release to customers for free to further "Improve the product" upon release. Stripping the product into pieces and selling it bull**** business jumping into software development

Anyone who uses this image in software development should be ashamed because that is not how it works. Yea multiplayer can be a plugin or module so why not make that as DLC right because its done by a different team.

[Evilelf007]

Travie wrote...

I hope you mean out of 25 playthroughs, then I would understand.

Nope, out of 7.  As a Renegade... it was just too fun getting Ashely to shoot him!  lol

FemShep: *Gives Ashley a signal glance*
Wrex: *Notices the signal and looks back to see Ashley taking aim*
Wrex to FemShep: "You B****!" *Bullet blasts through his skull*

Once I had it happen once, I was hooked!  lol

[AlanC9]

kingsims wrote...
 Yea multiplayer can be a plugin or module so why not make that as DLC right because its done by a different team.

I thought that's what Bio did do with multiplayer. Only new purchasers get MP.

[BaronIveagh]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

The Prothean is not part of the main plot, he is however part of the lore. But being part of the lore he is not essential to the completion of the game even if adds enjoyment to your playing of it when present. There is also the element of Jessicas reply on Reddit where implied the context and exposition of his presence may be covered in the game even if not part of your squad.

One, we all came to that conclusion going on one hundred pages ago, and two, we also agreed that the Reddit thing was less trustworthy, as it's from a Bioware PR employee rather then a dev.  As far as any content goes, the position was 'we havn't seen it so we'll wait and see.' 

Gee, DL, you're usually more on top of the threads you jump into.

[Volc19]

Let us set aside our rage for a moment, and bask in the magnificent content of this DLC. A direct energry rifle, a freaking PROTHEAN, a Collector cameo, new dregs for all squaddies, and a nostalgic visit to Eden Prime... all in about nine days. I know it may be my rampant optimism speaking but... GAH, I'M EXCITED!

[Empiro]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

_symphony wrote...

the correct analogy is play ME without Wrex

Nope, because Wrex is central to go through Tali if you recruit him.

Is he really? IIRC you don't have to add him to the squad.

But he still has the ability to be essential to the plot.  The Prothean does not.  He isn't a part of the plot at all.

Again, let's not reset this thread back to the beginning.  

Better analogies would be Legion, Grunt, Samara, and Thane in ME2. You didn't even need to ever have them in your party to finish the game, but it'd still suck pretty bad had Bioware decided to take them all out and sell them to you for $10 each.

[GnusmasTHX]

Is the laser beam gun an AR or Heavy Weapon in From Ashes?

I'm wondering it it's essentially the Prothean version on the Collector Heavy in ME2.

[BaronIveagh]

Volc19 wrote...

Let us set aside our rage for a moment, and bask in the magnificent content of this DLC. A direct energry rifle, a freaking PROTHEAN, a Collector cameo, new dregs for all squaddies, and a nostalgic visit to Eden Prime... all in about nine days. I know it may be my rampant optimism speaking but... GAH, I'M EXCITED!

Everyone likes good DLC, but the thing that most of us have come to understand is that Bioware didn't think it through well and thier handeling of the accedental second unvieling has been badly mishandled, leading to the current internet hate.

[ArkkAngel007]

AlanC9 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...
Nope, because Wrex is central to go through Tali if you recruit him.

Is he really? IIRC you don't have to add him to the squad.

But he still has the ability to be essential to the plot.  The Prothean does not, as he doesn't have that ability.

Hmm... I'm not sure someone optional can really be described as "essential." But I think this is just semantics. It's certainly irrelevant to the thread topic, so I'm happy to drop it.

Cool.  Doesn't matter since we have another  **** measuring contest, just because people can't just turn on Bravo for their drama fix.

We were beginning to play nice too...

[_symphony]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

_symphony wrote...

the correct analogy is play ME without Wrex

Nope, because Wrex is central to go through Tali if you recruit him.

Is he really? IIRC you don't have to add him to the squad.

But he still has the ability to be essential to the plot.  The Prothean does not.  He isn't a part of the plot at all.

Again, let's not reset this thread back to the beginning.  

Still that's not the point of my analogy, I already know that prothy is inconsequential and I'm not going to rehash it and I never did.

I meant from a gameplay-standpoint, you don't have a combat oriented biotic like Wrex unless you buy the DLC. If you want to use a biotic, your only choices are Liara or Kaidan if he's alive.

[BaronIveagh]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Cool.  Doesn't matter since we have another  **** measuring contest, just because people can't just turn on Bravo for their drama fix.

We were beginning to play nice too...

Sorry, DL gets my goat all the time.  He's just so... smarmy.  It's like his typed words on the page are sneering at me.

[Gatt9]

BaronIveagh wrote...

TieRantaSaurusWrex wrote...

Lol its like buying a 60,000 dollar car and to get the sun roof option you have to pay 10,000 dollars extra. And the whole time leading up to the sale the salesman and you were discussing how badass it would be to have a sunroof. Lol!

I got CE paid in full but I really think its gone a little too far. I feel for SE purchasers and will probably think twice next time bioware comes out with something. But I want to see the story end

I keep hoping for EA's ownership of Bioware to end.  Maybe we'll get lucky and tehy go bankrupt and the judge sells Bioware to Bethesda.  I can dream, right?

Two points.

First,  when EA goes bankrupt,  and they will before too long*,  the IP's will be sold seperately.  The rights to most of Bioware's work will revert back to Hasbro and Lucas Arts.

Second,  anything going to Bethesda would be a major disaster.  They only know how to make one game,  and they *really* suck at it.  They've been making the same game for 15 years,  and each iteration has fewer features,  more bugs,  and the bugs are bigger.  Further,  they aren't to be trusted,  they're do not play fair. 

Regardless,  I'm pretty confident Bethesda's going to follow EA into bankruptcy.

[GME_ThorianCreeper]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Is the laser beam gun an AR or Heavy Weapon in From Ashes?

I'm wondering it it's essentially the Prothean version on the Collector Heavy in ME2.

It seems to me that it is probably the same thing as the collector heavy, but the thing that is getting me is that it looks way to much like an AR rather then a heavy.

[Dragoonlordz]

BaronIveagh wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

The Prothean is not part of the main plot, he is however part of the lore. But being part of the lore he is not essential to the completion of the game even if adds enjoyment to your playing of it when present. There is also the element of Jessicas reply on Reddit where implied the context and exposition of his presence may be covered in the game even if not part of your squad.

One, we all came to that conclusion going on one hundred pages ago, and two, we also agreed that the Reddit thing was less trustworthy, as it's from a Bioware PR employee rather then a dev.  As far as any content goes, the position was 'we havn't seen it so we'll wait and see.' 

Gee, DL, you're usually more on top of the threads you jump into.

Backhanded compliment but I will take it all the same in order to remain civil.

The trust thing they cannot fix, that is your personal issue. That will take more than any words (even from the developers themselves) to change. The only way to change that view is to get the game, watch the game or read about the game from other players in order to see if what she said is true. Due to this that aspect, it cannot be addressed at all at this stage. If you do not trust them right now then that distrust will not be changed until release in that sense that specific element is not a viable part of the discussion until a later date.

[P_Bed]

So did he or did he not confirm this Dlc will be included in the collector's edition  as the bonus character/mission?

[BaronIveagh]

Gatt9 wrote...

Two points.

First,  when EA goes bankrupt,  and they will before too long*,  the IP's will be sold seperately.  The rights to most of Bioware's work will revert back to Hasbro and Lucas Arts.

Second,  anything going to Bethesda would be a major disaster.  They only know how to make one game,  and they *really* suck at it.  They've been making the same game for 15 years,  and each iteration has fewer features,  more bugs,  and the bugs are bigger.  Further,  they aren't to be trusted,  they're do not play fair. 

Regardless,  I'm pretty confident Bethesda's going to follow EA into bankruptcy.

Eh, the first part depends on the exact wording of thier agreement with EA.  Which no one here knows.

On the second point... I'd like to fantasize that they'ed know enough to let Bioware do thier thing without interfearence.

On the last point, you are most likely right.  The era of the big studios is slowly drawing to a close.

[ArkkAngel007]

kingsims wrote...

That picture some of you keep posting is not how software development works. Go read up agile development or the waterfall model, that is not how it works at all. If the development team was following Agile then this "module" would have been shipped with the final RTM as an add-on .

You can have separate teams in agile working towards a single project and its more like a plug-in or module that you release to customers for free to further "Improve the product" upon release. Stripping the product into pieces and selling it bull**** business jumping into software development

Anyone who uses this image in software development should be ashamed because that is not how it works. Yea multiplayer can be a plugin or module so why not make that as DLC right because its done by a different team.

Agile the one I posted?  I'm sorry, I was a conceptual artist and writer, so I didn't do much programming.  All I ever did in that department was provide input on gameplay mechanics and help find bugs.  We were also rather small, so we while we had different teams/departments, we didn't have any drastic divisions such as was the case with ME3.

The one I used did show separate work being done, though did not detail the specific devisions.  The notations seemed sound.

But again, I was in a completely different situation and it was a few years back.

[BaronIveagh]

P_Bed wrote...

So did he or did he not confirm this Dlc will be included in the collector's edition  as the bonus character/mission?

This DLC is listed on the description of the CE is as much as we know so far.  Since all the ads say it is, I'm going with yes.

[Dragoonlordz]

Gatt9 wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

TieRantaSaurusWrex wrote...

Lol its like buying a 60,000 dollar car and to get the sun roof option you have to pay 10,000 dollars extra. And the whole time leading up to the sale the salesman and you were discussing how badass it would be to have a sunroof. Lol!

I got CE paid in full but I really think its gone a little too far. I feel for SE purchasers and will probably think twice next time bioware comes out with something. But I want to see the story end

I keep hoping for EA's ownership of Bioware to end.  Maybe we'll get lucky and tehy go bankrupt and the judge sells Bioware to Bethesda.  I can dream, right?

Two points.

First,  when EA goes bankrupt,  and they will before too long*,  the IP's will be sold seperately.  The rights to most of Bioware's work will revert back to Hasbro and Lucas Arts.

Second,  anything going to Bethesda would be a major disaster.  They only know how to make one game,  and they *really* suck at it.  They've been making the same game for 15 years,  and each iteration has fewer features,  more bugs,  and the bugs are bigger.  Further,  they aren't to be trusted,  they're do not play fair. 

Regardless,  I'm pretty confident Bethesda's going to follow EA into bankruptcy.

I think the publishers and developer talk about bankrupcy is far too early to say with even remote certainty. I feel it won't happen for years if happens at all.  Can you imagine what would happen if Hasbro got their hands on the Mass Effect IP... I shudder to think what they would do with it.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 26 février 2012 - 04:52 .