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[ArkkAngel007]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Boycotting is going to far  - yes 

The whole Origin issues that people are having  this just compounded and how its needed to play ME 3 when they don't really want  it, then add how this whole  Character was handled.  On top of old lingering doubts left buy how people about Dragon Age 2.  Plus Bioware here latetly has been disavowing and then confirming left and right... you don't what to believe or not and you have a powder keg waiting  to go.   This has been building for while  now... the signs have been there... kind like tremors before a major earthquake.

The DLC  was just the match to set it off.

By character I hope you mean the entirety of "From Ashes" DLC?  It's not up to us how a character should/should not be written, and there's more than just a character involved, one that few here know anything about past what has been "officially" given.

But yeah, it was a poor marketing decision.  It's ok to be controversial if you have a rather clean record with your fans but here:

1)Owned by EA, which supports restrictive DRM and forces the inclusion of multiplayer in its in-house titles.

2)The disappointment of DAII, from the rushed development and consequences, and the debacle following that BioWare engineer's userreview for the game.

3)ME3 requiring Origin.  Obviously, this is a major issue with me, as I'm the head of the group against that decision (Though Furtled deserves the credit on keeping it going while I've been stuck in the office and labs), and the majority of PC gamers who keep up on things are at the very least concerned.

So now we have this decision, where the timing and the manner was just bad in its "official" reveal.  Will it generate more interest?  Yes.  Does that mean that will provide more sales?  No.

[Evilelf007]

If SE owners want dlc... let them download Ramen!

It's a delicacy back on earth!

[Dexter111]

BaronIveagh wrote...

I might point out a flaw in this: the reason is becoming surprisingly well known (It's even in Forbes now) So, my view on it is that I have a spare $80 that I can not only not be spending at EA, but can be spending at thier competition. AND I am making a point about my disapproval of various EA buisness practices.

I'm the consumer.

I have the power.

This, so much this, I've stopped buying any Activision games (that includes Blizzard) years ago because of their business practices and I did buy Mass Effect 2, Battlefield 3 (despite Origin), Star Wars: The Old Republic (also paid for two months I think before I cancelled the sub because of this) and several other games like the Dead Space series, I also was stupid enough to get Dragon Age 2 (despite it being a piece of crap) on past laurels alone. But EA can go on that list right quick if it continues showing its disdain for me by trying to exploit its customers like this. I'll spend my money on more Indie games instead ,on companies like Valve (I have like 350 games on Steam) and CDProjekt that respect their customers (or at least those that don't exploit them too much), or on things like KickStarter projects for games that I actually want like the Double Fine Adventure, the upcoming (round-based, isometric) Wasteland 2 or the Obsidian game.

Don't let it get to that point EA... so far it's just Mass Effect 3.

Modifié par Dexter111, 26 février 2012 - 06:43 .

[nitefyre410]

Yuoaman wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

*snip*

Come on now, no reason to snap at them, it only serves to strengthen their argument. And I think of it more as tilting at Prothean beacons, given the situation.

 

Baron .. easy there  DJ   as been on your  side from the start.. .he does not like whole DLC  either.. He just does not like TB  stated somethings in anger and should have calmed down some and worded his statements in the video better thats all..  which is fair  because he should have.

And while I might agree with  you  on how some of the people  in this thread are acting DJ is  most certinely not one of them.

So yes  that type of attitude  they have is nerve racking to the point of maddess  but lashing out  them and especailly at the wrong  person does nothing but  drag you down there too..

[GME_ThorianCreeper]

Sargerus wrote...

NoxJuked wrote...

Casey Hudson ‏ @CaseyDHudson

For the many who asked, plot arcs of the Protheans and other races are resolved in #ME3, not DLC. That is after all the focus of the story.

O__________________________________________________o

why didn't I see this before!

/thread

Lets all go to bed now.

[Kreidian]

BaronIveagh wrote...

Monochrome Wench wrote...

Could also be really DGAF and just like being antagonistic ****es and bastards to the less fortunate.

I'd be careful with that.  Once opon a time, there were some other people who liked antagonizing the less fortunate. 

That was the court of Louis XVI. 

And look waht happened to them.

I suppose this is only slightly better then comparing us to Hitler, but then we passed by that Goldwin's law about a hundred pages back.


That's it everyone! Louis XVI is the NEW HITLER!!  

[TheGoddess0fWar]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

Sargerus wrote...

NoxJuked wrote...

Casey Hudson ‏ @CaseyDHudson

For the many who asked, plot arcs of the Protheans and other races are resolved in #ME3, not DLC. That is after all the focus of the story.

O__________________________________________________o

why didn't I see this before!

/thread

Lets all go to bed now.

GG we're done. Game over.

[ArkkAngel007]

NoxJuked wrote...

Casey Hudson ‏ @CaseyDHudson

For the many who asked, plot arcs of the Protheans and other races are resolved in #ME3, not DLC. That is after all the focus of the story.

"Ah yes, DLC, the auxillary content added to a complete game.  We have dismissed those claims."

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 26 février 2012 - 06:46 .

[RDSFirebane]

Kreidian wrote...
That's it everyone! Louis XVI is the NEW HITLER!!  

I support the jokes but that one is a bit much man.

So.... ya anyone other then me excited about the DLC?

[BaronIveagh]

Renegade133 wrote...
Your seriosuly comparing that group to a monarch that made his people suffer whats next your going to compare bioware to hitler favouring only those "pure fans who got the collectors"?

Well, if  Bioware came in quoting from Mein Kampf, sure.   The reason that comparison came to mind is she almost quoted Radix de Sainte-Foix.

[_symphony]

Don't godwin the thread please.

[nitefyre410]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Boycotting is going to far  - yes 

The whole Origin issues that people are having  this just compounded and how its needed to play ME 3 when they don't really want  it, then add how this whole  Character was handled.  On top of old lingering doubts left buy how people about Dragon Age 2.  Plus Bioware here latetly has been disavowing and then confirming left and right... you don't what to believe or not and you have a powder keg waiting  to go.   This has been building for while  now... the signs have been there... kind like tremors before a major earthquake.

The DLC  was just the match to set it off.

By character I hope you mean the entirety of "From Ashes" DLC?  It's not up to us how a character should/should not be written, and there's more than just a character involved, one that few here know anything about past what has been "officially" given.

But yeah, it was a poor marketing decision.  It's ok to be controversial if you have a rather clean record with your fans but here:

1)Owned by EA, which supports restrictive DRM and forces the inclusion of multiplayer in its in-house titles.

2)The disappointment of DAII, from the rushed development and consequences, and the debacle following that BioWare engineer's userreview for the game.

3)ME3 requiring Origin.  Obviously, this is a major issue with me, as I'm the head of the group against that decision (Though Furtled deserves the credit on keeping it going while I've been stuck in the office and labs), and the majority of PC gamers who keep up on things are at the very least concerned.

So now we have this decision, where the timing and the manner was just bad in its "official" reveal.  Will it generate more interest?  Yes.  Does that mean that will provide more sales?  No.

 

Yes  I do mean the From the Ashes.. sorry  I was not bit more clear.. just got back from drinking with friends...  
As far sales. ..its brillant move. Its bascailly a  Batman Gambit.. they knew/know  how most were going to react and  they are going to make a profit off it.   Hell even the fan in me is like  "Well its just $10 bucks" but the  Consumer is kind pissed at how this was handle and how Bioware is been handling a lot of thigs... so that part is winning out.
 

[kingsims]

Sigh i wish Jess Chobot was the DLC character instead or Vega hell i wish the CO-OP was DLC instead of prothy ugh.

This can only come out 2 ways.

People will compare it with Shale (In which if it does suck and not as good then people will just avoid it). For $10 id except Shale Quality if any worse then the whole thing should have been not a DLC at all.

If its the best DLC to date and offers 3 hours of gameplay then it could be alright.

[BaronIveagh]

_symphony wrote...

Don't godwin the thread please.

It hasn't been Godwinded yet.  In fact it wasn't several hundred pages back.  The DILIGAF group tried to claim it becasue someone used a quote about not speaking out against injustice and they tried to claim they were being called ****s. 

[CommanderCoffee]

BaronIveagh wrote...

_symphony wrote...

Don't godwin the thread please.

It hasn't been Godwinded yet.  In fact it wasn't several hundred pages back.  The DILIGAF group tried to claim it becasue someone used a quote about not speaking out against injustice and they tried to claim they were being called ****s. 

Somebody mentioned a Hitler book. That's a very thin line to being Godwinned. Let's do what Tim Buckley of Ctrl-Alt-Dlt Comic can't do, and move past it.

[ArkkAngel007]

nitefyre410 wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Boycotting is going to far  - yes 

The whole Origin issues that people are having  this just compounded and how its needed to play ME 3 when they don't really want  it, then add how this whole  Character was handled.  On top of old lingering doubts left buy how people about Dragon Age 2.  Plus Bioware here latetly has been disavowing and then confirming left and right... you don't what to believe or not and you have a powder keg waiting  to go.   This has been building for while  now... the signs have been there... kind like tremors before a major earthquake.

The DLC  was just the match to set it off.

By character I hope you mean the entirety of "From Ashes" DLC?  It's not up to us how a character should/should not be written, and there's more than just a character involved, one that few here know anything about past what has been "officially" given.

But yeah, it was a poor marketing decision.  It's ok to be controversial if you have a rather clean record with your fans but here:

1)Owned by EA, which supports restrictive DRM and forces the inclusion of multiplayer in its in-house titles.

2)The disappointment of DAII, from the rushed development and consequences, and the debacle following that BioWare engineer's userreview for the game.

3)ME3 requiring Origin.  Obviously, this is a major issue with me, as I'm the head of the group against that decision (Though Furtled deserves the credit on keeping it going while I've been stuck in the office and labs), and the majority of PC gamers who keep up on things are at the very least concerned.

So now we have this decision, where the timing and the manner was just bad in its "official" reveal.  Will it generate more interest?  Yes.  Does that mean that will provide more sales?  No.

 

Yes  I do mean the From the Ashes.. sorry  I was not bit more clear.. just got back from drinking with friends...  
As far sales. ..its brillant move. Its bascailly a  Batman Gambit.. they knew/know  how most were going to react and  they are going to make a profit off it.   Hell even the fan in me is like  "Well its just $10 bucks" but the  Consumer is kind pissed at how this was handle and how Bioware is been handling a lot of thigs... so that part is winning out.
 

At least with Batman, they were given at least a month/two months warning.

I don't know.  Maybe it will help sales or maybe it won't.  They didn't receive the numbers they wanted with ME2 initially, and I know EA and BioWare were hoping for a sizable increase in their player base and sales with the inclusion of multiplayer, refinement of the combat system, and the return of certain RPG elements.  However, we haven't heard any solid, reliable numbers for global pre-orders, so we really can only estimate about maybe a bit over 2 million tops in preorders, and an additional million in one week sales.  However, Skyrim impressed me with its 10 million, so we'll just have to see.

[Renegade133]

My bad i provoked the mein kampf reference

[TheGoddess0fWar]

Hey guys how about we

[nitefyre410]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

NoxJuked wrote...

Casey Hudson ‏ @CaseyDHudson

For the many who asked, plot arcs of the Protheans and other races are resolved in #ME3, not DLC. That is after all the focus of the story.

"Ah yes, DLC, the auxillary content added to a complete game.  We have dismissed those claims."

 

Well thats nice.. to bad the damage is done and impression is there but  ah well... so in more news.


You do know how much  that damn Turian... so much thet I grinned the DA blew up and I play almost full Paragon. It sucks because I like the Asari and Salarian... they had  die cuase of HIM ...  that   ain't man they deserved better.

[ArkkAngel007]

^I'm sick of calibrations. I just want to shoot things.

[Evilelf007]

I used to do Calibrations... then I took a missle to the knee.

[GME_ThorianCreeper]

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

Hey guys how about we

Agreed, ill callibrate the time and distance until the train that this thread is riding on is officially derailed!

Modifié par GME_ThorianCreeper, 26 février 2012 - 07:00 .

[The Empress]

Evilelf007 wrote...

I used to do Calibrations... then I took a missle to the knee.

I think you mean face.

[Renegade133]

Dont worry calibrations will happen until 2 secs before the last battle then the guns will fire a projectile so hard that it will own the entire reaper fleet with one hit

[ArkkAngel007]

Evilelf007 wrote...

I used to do Calibrations... then I took a missle to the knee.

Face...we don't really have those knee things you squishy humans have.

Plus, we don't run around pretending it's the reason we have a crap posting, then turn around and slay a dragon.

We save the galaxy and are honest about it.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 26 février 2012 - 07:01 .