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[saresy]

Yuoaman wrote...

I've got to be honest, guys. If ME3 had a hat-based DLC I'd buy it in a heartbeat. A tophat is just what my Shepard needs to go with his formal wear.

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Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 26 février 2012 - 12:37 .

[AkiKishi]

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

That's not cosmetic you should look up the word cosmetic. Cheers for proving my point though.

You seem obsessed with the meaning of words, what was it last time, complete?
Lipstick on a beautiful girl is cosmetic, a lick of paint of a house is cosmetic, and the B&B sigh and flowers I have on my welcome desk at the front door is cosmetic. These are things that add to the look and feel of an item or experience. But the item and experience is still just the same with out them.
This DLC is fan pandering fluff, why I liken the Prothean to a sheep before, he adds to it yes, the game seems nicer, but he is not need for the experience, I'll still hit the LVL cap without the XP from his mission, but it is nice that I’ll be able to do it sooner.

The meaning and usage of words are not necessarily the same, I thought you being English would understand your own langue, but then that was a large hope.
And besides that, I didn't prove your point at all.

If you use a word you should know what it means. 

You mean when you incorrectly use a word ? I'm not the one misusing my language here, nice try though.

Yes you did. How can additional XP be cosmetic

[Evilelf007]

That additional xp will seem pretty pointless once your character maxes out.

[AkiKishi]

Evilelf007 wrote...

That additional xp will seem pretty pointless once your character maxes out.

Does that make all sources of xp cosmetic

[TheDragonOfWhi]

fresh101 wrote...

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...
The Prothean does something, that's not really disputable. Sure you can argue how important it is, but thats it. By it not being there your game will be different.

Cosmetic stuff is purely in the eye of the beholder it has no function. Sure If I wear an Armani people will treat me differently, but it's functionally the same as an off the peg suit.

And you know this Prothean does something how? You have played the game already? Read the leak script?

So far, from myself not doing either I don't see how Prothean boy (if he is a boy, yes he may sound male, but do we really know about Prothean gender) brings nothing but an extra gun (pew pew) and XP lots and lots of that wonderful XP. No super space ship to fight reapers, no reset button, just an other new grunt.
That seems pretty cosmetic to me.

yes I have read the leak script, and it is clear from it that prothean was part of the main game, he can't be consider just another character (asari, krogan, salarian, hanar), if you have played first 2 games you would know that.

oh, and by the way I am very sad that we won't have a krogan squadmate, but hey, he will probably go out as DLC later for only 19,99 $

Do you think I would be there if I hadn't played both ME1&2, I said so in my post. I HAVE.
I played ME1 on my PC and ME2 on my PS3, I know the plot I know the story, and I know the prothean, cut from game or not doesn't add anything essential. ME is about Shep, she/he is the important one, the protheans fought and lost their war and that was all covered in ME1, that was the twist ending, that was the big reveal. The idea that the Protheans are impotent now is just fan lust. You want it to be important so you're making it be important. Wants don't make things real. I have wanted a thermal nuclear warhead since I was 14, doesn't mean it's ever going to happen tho.
BioWare has good writers, and I will trust them to be good until they have given me reason to think otherwise, and so if they say he was cut because he took the focus off the player as the hero I’ll go with that. Or would you rather be the bass player than lead singer?

[Severyx]

Yup, this thread fell prey to the stupid "you used X word wrong, silly scrub" arguments like many, many others.

[TheDragonOfWhi]

Evilelf007 wrote...

That additional xp will seem pretty pointless once your character maxes out.

What can I say, I'm a DM and table top gamer, I'm obsessed with XP

[AkiKishi]

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

Evilelf007 wrote...

That additional xp will seem pretty pointless once your character maxes out.

What can I say, I'm a DM and table top gamer, I'm obsessed with XP

And your telling other gamers that a source of XP is cosmetic. Hypocrite.

[Nex_Legis]

So how much is it going to be? 800 BWP?

[TheDragonOfWhi]

BobSmith101 wrote...

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

Evilelf007 wrote...

That additional xp will seem pretty pointless once your character maxes out.

What can I say, I'm a DM and table top gamer, I'm obsessed with XP

And your telling other gamers that a source of XP is cosmetic. Hypocrite.

No I'm saying a side quest is cosmetic, as all side quests are. Or worst, filler.
And no one likes filler.

[AkiKishi]

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

Evilelf007 wrote...

That additional xp will seem pretty pointless once your character maxes out.

What can I say, I'm a DM and table top gamer, I'm obsessed with XP

And your telling other gamers that a source of XP is cosmetic. Hypocrite.

No I'm saying a side quest is cosmetic, as all side quests are. Or worst, filler.
And no one likes filler.

Xp comes with the side quest.

[TheDragonOfWhi]

BobSmith101 wrote...

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

Evilelf007 wrote...

That additional xp will seem pretty pointless once your character maxes out.

What can I say, I'm a DM and table top gamer, I'm obsessed with XP

And your telling other gamers that a source of XP is cosmetic. Hypocrite.

No I'm saying a side quest is cosmetic, as all side quests are. Or worst, filler.
And no one likes filler.

Xp comes with the side quest.

And XP like cosmetics on girls (and emo boys if you're into that sort of thing ) is nice, but not strictly essential.

[AkiKishi]

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

Evilelf007 wrote...

That additional xp will seem pretty pointless once your character maxes out.

What can I say, I'm a DM and table top gamer, I'm obsessed with XP

And your telling other gamers that a source of XP is cosmetic. Hypocrite.

No I'm saying a side quest is cosmetic, as all side quests are. Or worst, filler.
And no one likes filler.

Xp comes with the side quest.

And XP like cosmetics on girls (and emo boys if you're into that sort of thing ) is nice, but not strictly essential.

But you just said yourself you are obssesed over it .....

Your contradicting yourself almost as badly as Bioware employees do...

Modifié par BobSmith101, 26 février 2012 - 12:23 .

[Yuoaman]

saresy wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

I've got to be honest, guys. If ME3 had a hat-based DLC I'd buy it in a heartbeat. A tophat is just what my Shepard needs to go with his formal wear.

-snip-

I shoved by credit card into the disc slot but nothing's downloading yet...

Anyway, while the Prothean may be meaningless fluff to many gamers, I personally don't see him as such.

[Insaner Robot]

That's your opinion and it's entirely as valid as saying he'll add nothing to the game and be completely unecessary.
Personally I believe the prothean DLC will add an interesting mission, but will neither add nor detract to the main plot.

As I stated on the previous page:
"The importance of any DLC is purely up to the opinion of the individual consumer."

[BiO]

Relevant to topic (somewhat) -

Modifié par BiO_MaN, 26 février 2012 - 12:34 .

[Wulfram]

I play Bioware games for the meaningless fluff.

[Nex_Legis]

It sounds wrong when people say that a DLC is pointless, just because it does not directly and actively support the main mission. In my opinion, it absolutely does not have to. As long as it fits well into the overall story and is interesting and fun (which is, at least for me, the main reason for playing video games), it's totally worth playing through.
Personally I only think that equipment / outfit DLCs are ridiculously overpriced and useless (ignore that fact that I purchased all the DA2 equipment packs...). Same goes for the ME2 Genesis DLC, which should have been a free addition to the game, as its function poses a rather essential element of the game.
Oh, and I'm going to ask again: is it going to be priced at 800 BioWare Points?

[AkiKishi]

Nex_Legis wrote...

It sounds wrong when people say that a DLC is pointless, just because it does not directly and actively support the main mission. In my opinion, it absolutely does not have to. As long as it fits well into the overall story and is interesting and fun (which is, at least for me, the main reason for playing video games), it's totally worth playing through.
Personally I only think that equipment / outfit DLCs are ridiculously overpriced and useless (ignore that fact that I purchased all the DA2 equipment packs...). Same goes for the ME2 Genesis DLC, which should have been a free addition to the game, as its function poses a rather essential element of the game.
Oh, and I'm going to ask again: is it going to be priced at 800 BioWare Points?

It was in the leak.

[AkiKishi]

Nex_Legis wrote...

It sounds wrong when people say that a DLC is pointless, just because it does not directly and actively support the main mission. In my opinion, it absolutely does not have to. As long as it fits well into the overall story and is interesting and fun (which is, at least for me, the main reason for playing video games), it's totally worth playing through.
Personally I only think that equipment / outfit DLCs are ridiculously overpriced and useless (ignore that fact that I purchased all the DA2 equipment packs...). Same goes for the ME2 Genesis DLC, which should have been a free addition to the game, as its function poses a rather essential element of the game.
Oh, and I'm going to ask again: is it going to be priced at 800 BioWare Points?

It was in the leak.

NM I don't know what Bioware points are. But whatever they are in MS points would probably be it.

[Acidrain92]

BobSmith101 wrote...

But you just said yourself you are obssesed over it .....

Your contradicting yourself almost as badly as Bioware employees do...

hats in TF2 arent essential either, and yet people are obssessed with them O.o you are obsessed with this DLC, and yet it isnt essential.

in a sense you are contradicting yourself and just running around in circles.

Modifié par Acidrain92, 26 février 2012 - 12:59 .

[TheDragonOfWhi]

BobSmith101 wrote...

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

TheDragonOfWhi wrote...

Evilelf007 wrote...

That additional xp will seem pretty pointless once your character maxes out.

What can I say, I'm a DM and table top gamer, I'm obsessed with XP

And your telling other gamers that a source of XP is cosmetic. Hypocrite.

No I'm saying a side quest is cosmetic, as all side quests are. Or worst, filler.
And no one likes filler.

Xp comes with the side quest.

And XP like cosmetics on girls (and emo boys if you're into that sort of thing ) is nice, but not strictly essential.

But you just said yourself you are obssesed over it .....

Your contradicting yourself almost as badly as Bioware employees do...

No that's you taking what I said to mean what you want it to say,
I'm obsessed over XP yes, like you are with the meaning of words, Did I pre-order the CE yes, But I did that know what I was getting because I used these things called EYES and my brain. I personally Like the idea of more XP and more power. That is why I made my decision; I didn't think OMG NEW CHAR MUST MEAN I NEED! I went, “awe more content = more story. I like Story”. It's what I get off on. Does it make mean I contradicted myself when I said it wasn't essential? No, because it was my like of story that meat it I thought it might be worth having. Not that I thought it is NEEDED, and I'm not arguing ageist other having it. Other DLC like DA's stuff has been brought up, and I have had it two ways with DA, I have on my PC the bare bones versions, of both games, with out DLC, I played and completed them both like that. Did I feel like I lost out not having these extras? No. But then I can appreciate a story on it's own with out needing to have everything explained to me, I have my own imagination for that. But then I bought them for my PS3 and got the DAO:UE with all the DLC already on the disk, I enjoyed that extra content, I liked the idea an ending to my warden’s story, and I liked finding out about Hawkes fathers run in with the wardens, it added depth, but it wasn't necessary for the story of the game, much like I enjoyed finding out why the wardens were banished in the first place or think that dog was really rather useful.
Do I believe it should all have come on a separate disk in its own box called an expansion pack like the good old days, yes. But it wasn't the good old days, and DLC is the done thing, so complaining about the extras is not very grown up or right. And whinging on about it just shows you up to be an 'entitled emo 12 year old' which I assume by the fact you can spell and type with proper sentences and everything you are not. (tho if you are, the education system is not nearly as bad as the Torys make it out to be down there). So do you have the right to be annoyed about not buying the CE and getting this content right away, sure you do only with your self, don't bleed on about how it's EA's or Bio's fault, it was clear for everyone to see and compare box's. Just be glad they didn't go well he was only meant for CE as cosmetic fluff so that's what he'll stay as. They at lest let you have the option of wasting your money on ones and zeros.
 
And lastly, COSMETIC; From Ancient Greek κοσμητική (kosmetike) "the art of dress and ornament", "to order, to arrange, to rule, to adorn, to equip, to dress, to embellish"
 
Which leads to Embellish;
1. To make more beautiful and attractive; to decorate.
2. To make something sound or look better or more acceptable than it is in reality, to distort.
This DLC is cosmetic and embellishing.
 
Once again, sorry for the long post.

[GnusmasTHX]

Acidrain92 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

But you just said yourself you are obssesed over it .....

Your contradicting yourself almost as badly as Bioware employees do...

hats in TF2 arent essential either, and yet people are obssessed with them O.o you are obsessed with this DLC, and yet it isnt essential.

in a sense you are contradicting yourself and just running around in circles.

NO, MADAME DIXIE'S ARE MY LIFE.

[MonkeySeeker]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Nex_Legis wrote...

Oh, and I'm going to ask again: is it going to be priced at 800 BioWare Points?

It was in the leak.

NM I don't know what Bioware points are. But whatever they are in MS points would probably be it.

Yep. DLC usually costs the same BW points as MS points