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[_symphony]

SE buyers have the bigger potential stick for beat EA with, and most of them don't even know about prothy yet.

edit: oh dart it, top of the page again. The forum software hates me. 

Modifié par _symphony, 26 février 2012 - 06:28 .

[GME_ThorianCreeper]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

oto wrote...

I am not talking about august script. I am talking about their statement claiming that there was no prothean in game.

And what statement is that?

I would like to know this too.

I third this.

[oto]

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

oto wrote...

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

oto wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

oto wrote...

GME_ThorianCreeper wrote...

oto wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

oto wrote...

I heard that he has pretty huge part in ME3. And why should i believe to company representative that has been lying alot latly.

No he hasn't.

Deny as much as you want. Facts are there.

So how was ME3? How many stars would you give it?

Its obvious to me that you have already played it since you claim to know facts about the story that would prove the devs straight up lied to us.

I never said that i played MS3. Learn to read and then reply.

You still haven't actually provided any of these facts that prove Casey has been "lying a lot lately"...

Again learn to read.  The company has been lying ( for slow people) and facts are there and has been stated lots of time in this thread. Here is short version: prothean is in the game, then they  suddenly is not, then is again.

Soooo that proves that the prothean is an essential part of the game huh?

I am sorry but you dont have an ability to understand my post.

Na, I think I understand clearly what "I heard hes a huge part of ME3" and "The company has been lying" means.  You just have absolutely no solid facts that any of this is true, though you claim you do, a script written in august is not a fact either.

So again, the only way you would know for sure these things are facts is if you played the game.

New script is there, if you want you can find it. Comments made by eaware representativs have been posted in this thread like 200 pages ago. 
If you dont want to see something you never will... 

[MakeMineMako]

AlanC9 wrote...

WeWant wrote...

The Witcher 2 = Half budget of ME3, and will probably get half the sales of ME3.

Meanwhile, CDP Red adds 4 hours of additional gameplay and tons of content for...free. Because theiy want to improve their creation.
The Prothean DLC will probably last 1-2 hours for 10 "extra" $.

Is EAware free to charge anything for their product? Yep.
Do they look like greedy douchbags? Yep.

CDP = Like a Boss
EAWare = Jews

Dear Biodrones, you are the worst.

Jews? Am I seeing that?

I almost don't want to report him. Live prothean, hell -- this is a reappearance of something I thought extinct.

It's very much alive and well. I don't much care for it, but I just shrug it off and go about my business. <_<

[Tar-Minastir]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

And your post was full of

This is the mentality and maturity of what we are dealing with.  Since you obviously have too much money and really don't care what you do w/ it, just send me a check instead of sending it to bioware.  Any consumer w/ half a brain wants to get more for less.  If you disagree you are an idiot who does not deserve the money you are being cheated out of (not that bioware/ea are cheating in the case, just in general).

An inteligent consumer would not jump to bioware's defense.  They would sit back and support them by purchasing the game (the only thing they really care about anyway).  All the while silently hoping that something good may arise from other people with higher standards who are trying to get a better product/service. 

[Lufven1]

RiouHotaru wrote...

oto wrote...

I am not talking about august script. I am talking about their statement claiming that there was no prothean in game.

And what statement is that?

Probably this: http://social.biowar...51111/1#7551129

[nitefyre410]

Hey Quote Pyramids ... Snip em this ain't the ancient Egypt..

[tez19]

Bioware in steep decline. They really should thank their biodrones as they are doing a good job fighting their corner even though they are delusional. Bioware you are going to see SIGNIFICANT losses after the Mass Effect trilogy has ended. Bioware in STEEP decline.

[BaronIveagh]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I would like to know this too.

I know what he's talking about.  About 9 months ago, the ad guys at Bioware slipped up and released a CE ad stating that the Ce eition would get a Prothean squadmate.  This was posted about o nthe forum, and Chris Preistly then made a very carefully worded to be misleading statment that 'It was based off old information and was being removed.  He simply left out the part wher the DLC was being kept, but the spoileriffic ad was being removed.

[ArkkAngel007]

Chewin3 wrote...

WeWant wrote...

The Witcher 2 = Half budget of ME3, and will probably get half the sales of ME3.

Meanwhile, CDP Red adds 4 hours of additional gameplay and tons of content for...free. Because theiy want to improve their creation.
The Prothean DLC will probably last 1-2 hours for 10 "extra" $.

Is EAware free to charge anything for their product? Yep.
Do they look like greedy douchbags? Yep.

CDP = Like a Boss
EAWare = Jews

Dear Biodrones, you are the worst.

Now now, no need and go stating the obvious.



Though I don't get that Jews part...

What's wrong with Jews ?

Anyways, the issue is that CDP is its own company.  They can negotiate the publishing terms (they receive a larger revenue portion than publisher-owned developing companies) and can control how DLC is distributed.  That is why Valve can be so generous, because it is it's own publisher (which means even greater freedom).  Valve is also a company ran by those who enjoy games and game development, not a board of shareholders whose only interest is to find more ways to positively increase their quarterly margins.

BioWare does not have that freedom.  They've done what they can for us, and outside of plot and multiplayer, they've been very open with the development of this game.

EA is out to make whatever money they can, no matter what.  That's why we have a "Beta" that is required for our games on PC to operate, and that's why we never see EA DLC or games decrease in price for extended periods of time, if at all for DLC.  To them, we're meat with money.  And they won't care about skewering us on the way to get what we have.

Unfortunantly, BioWare has to serve as a conduit for that process.  Random developing houses being given the BioWare name to trick people into believing BioWare is developing a product instead of the same team as before, rushed production of significantly sized games, the restriction of games to a backwards DRM service...these aren't the decisons of the BioWare we are familiar with and are making Mass Effect 3.  

So try not to be so ignorant next time you go to make a point, nor racist.

Edit: And why are we continuing to hurl the BioDrone label around when there are maybe one or two people here who could possibly fit the description of the trolling term (yes, it is a troll term, as it was originally meant to causee **** with BioWare fans)

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 26 février 2012 - 06:34 .

[Dragoonlordz]

BaronIveagh wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...
I am sure you just made mistake, 500m? Specifically the "m" part. 

ACK typo strikes, that should be K.

Was going to say thats some pretty extreme expectations on their part if was true. 

But like mentioned earlier, expectations do not matter in the grand scheme of things as long as the increase in sales continues to rise not fall and that is what seems to be happening with ME3 if go by preorders then stock holders will be happy, the business will be happy and it will not change as long as that stays this way.

[AlanC9]

MakeMineMako wrote...

Jews? Am I seeing that?

I almost don't want to report him. Live prothean, hell -- this is a reappearance of something I thought extinct.

It's very much alive and well. I don't much care for it, but I just shrug it off and go about my business. <_<

Wow. Living in New York you sometimes get the wrong impression about what actually goes on in the flyover zone.

Modifié par AlanC9, 26 février 2012 - 06:33 .

[MakeMineMako]

tez19 wrote...

Bioware in steep decline. They really should thank their biodrones as they are doing a good job fighting their corner even though they are delusional. Bioware you are going to see SIGNIFICANT losses after the Mass Effect trilogy has ended. Bioware in STEEP decline.

Mind showing me the charts, graphs, sales figures, and quarterly earnings to back this up? Or is this just another case of blowing off steam on the internet?

[WeWant]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

WeWant wrote...

The Witcher 2 = Half budget of ME3, and will probably get half the sales of ME3.

Meanwhile, CDP Red adds 4 hours of additional gameplay and tons of content for...free. Because theiy want to improve their creation.
The Prothean DLC will probably last 1-2 hours for 10 "extra" $.

Is EAware free to charge anything for their product? Yep.
Do they look like greedy douchbags? Yep.

CDP = Like a Boss
EAWare = Jews

Dear Biodrones, you are the worst.

As CDPR has the right to do as they wish with the products they have created so do EA. Free will is a good thing, if don't like the product on offer then don't buy it, quite simple. Gaming is a hobby not an oxygen supply.

EA isn't making ME3.
I was just stating the difference of ethics/integrity between the two. Where a small company like CDPR could certainly need and easily make more money from their Enhanced Edition, but they don't.

Meanwhile, EA policies are getting worse and worse and there are still fanboys who defend them.
What's the next step for EA? 15$ map pack for multiplayer? 

[MakeMineMako]

AlanC9 wrote...

MakeMineMako wrote...

Jews? Am I seeing that?

I almost don't want to report him. Live prothean, hell -- this is a reappearance of something I thought extinct.

It's very much alive and well. I don't much care for it, but I just shrug it off and go about my business. <_<

Wow. Living in New York you sometimes get the wrong impression about what actually goes on in the flyover zone.

Nah. It's not so bad. Just clean living and ignoring the as*holes. Keeps my blood pressure down.

[BaronIveagh]

WeWant wrote...

EA isn't making ME3.
I was just stating the difference of ethics/integrity between the two. Where a small company like CDPR could certainly need and easily make more money from their Enhanced Edition, but they don't.

Meanwhile, EA policies are getting worse and worse and there are still fanboys who defend them.
What's the next step for EA? 15$ map pack for multiplayer? 

Next is a microtransaction shop to buy in game items.  You will no longer earn credits i nthe game except by buying them with real cash.

[tez19]

MakeMineMako wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Bioware in steep decline. They really should thank their biodrones as they are doing a good job fighting their corner even though they are delusional. Bioware you are going to see SIGNIFICANT losses after the Mass Effect trilogy has ended. Bioware in STEEP decline.

Mind showing me the charts, graphs, sales figures, and quarterly earnings to back this up? Or is this just another case of blowing off steam on the internet?

You want me to source you sale figures and quarterly earnings from the future? Bioware are in STEEP decline and with the changes they are making to the ME series that fans do not want they will rightly so see out the trilogy and then abandon EAware. And who the **** is going to buy the next DA game? And the old republic will fail. Bioware you are going to get what you deserve. BIOWARE IN STEEP DECLINE.

[WeWant]

RiouHotaru wrote...

WeWant wrote...

The Witcher 2 = Half budget of ME3, and will probably get half the sales of ME3.

Meanwhile, CDP Red adds 4 hours of additional gameplay and tons of content for...free. Because theiy want to improve their creation.
The Prothean DLC will probably last 1-2 hours for 10 "extra" $.

Is EAware free to charge anything for their product? Yep.
Do they look like greedy douchbags? Yep.

CDP = Like a Boss
EAWare = Jews

Dear Biodrones, you are the worst.

Except CDP is a much, much smaller company, without investors and shareholders breathing down their necks.

But you're welcome to your opinion.

So what? It's not like ME3 won't sell well. 
Like I said, it will sell probably twice as much as TW2.

The whole DLC thing is about getting more.

Modifié par WeWant, 26 février 2012 - 06:38 .

[nitefyre410]

MakeMineMako wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Bioware in steep decline. They really should thank their biodrones as they are doing a good job fighting their corner even though they are delusional. Bioware you are going to see SIGNIFICANT losses after the Mass Effect trilogy has ended. Bioware in STEEP decline.

Mind showing me the charts, graphs, sales figures, and quarterly earnings to back this up? Or is this just another case of blowing off steam on the internet?

 

Though  he used some mighty good  hyperbole  there is not that far fetched..

People where already irked over DA 2  and the quailty of that.. add on top fo that the whole Origin issue. So you could say most were just staying around till ME 3  and   know this DLC issue.    So safe to say same when DA 3 will go Ill pass..

Not the extent to which  Tez overstated but  its not as of the wall as it seems.

[BaronIveagh]

AlanC9 wrote...

Jews? Am I seeing that?

I almost don't want to report him. Live prothean, hell -- this is a reappearance of something I thought extinct.

You obviously haven't had to deal with them in the wild.  I recommend phosgene.

[Tar-Minastir]

MakeMineMako wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Bioware in steep decline. They really should thank their biodrones as they are doing a good job fighting their corner even though they are delusional. Bioware you are going to see SIGNIFICANT losses after the Mass Effect trilogy has ended. Bioware in STEEP decline.

Mind showing me the charts, graphs, sales figures, and quarterly earnings to back this up? Or is this just another case of blowing off steam on the internet?

I assume he views their decline in terms of ethical standards and product quality/care.  Since bioware has been so sucessfull (and rightfully so), they have fallen into the trap of most large scale developers/publishers.  They churn out substandard products.  These products are not made w/ the same level of passion and love of the game as preciously seen.

I admit this is all person opinion and up to personal interpretation, but there are other ways for a company to decline than monetarily.  On that front Bioware/Ea have been very sucessful.

[GME_ThorianCreeper]

BaronIveagh wrote...

WeWant wrote...

EA isn't making ME3.
I was just stating the difference of ethics/integrity between the two. Where a small company like CDPR could certainly need and easily make more money from their Enhanced Edition, but they don't.

Meanwhile, EA policies are getting worse and worse and there are still fanboys who defend them.
What's the next step for EA? 15$ map pack for multiplayer? 

Next is a microtransaction shop to buy in game items.  You will no longer earn credits i nthe game except by buying them with real cash.

DLC is basically microtransactions already, you buy other appreances and weapons from DLC... basically a microtransaction.

Modifié par GME_ThorianCreeper, 26 février 2012 - 06:38 .

[Candidate 88766]

oto wrote...

Again learn to read.  The company has been lying ( for slow people) and facts are there and has been stated lots of time in this thread. Here is short version: prothean is in the game, then they  suddenly is not, then is again.

And, as I will say again, you have yet to provide evidence that they've actually lied.

They have NEVER said that the Prothean would be a part of the main game. His lines being present in the demo indicate only that they recorded his lines at the same time as eveyrone else - a reasonable thing to do. Many of Kasumi's lines were recorded before ME2. 

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 26 février 2012 - 06:41 .

[Dovahzaan]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

EA is out to make whatever money they can, no matter what.  That's why we have a "Beta" that is required for our games on PC to operate, and that's why we never see EA DLC or games decrease in price for extended periods of time, if at all for DLC.  To them, we're meat with money.  And they won't care about skewering us on the way to get what we have.

And that's why we shouldn't blame EA for this situation. It was BioWare's decision to work for EA.
If you willingly work for the devil, you're just as bad as him.

[BaronIveagh]

Candidate 88766 wrote...
They have NEVER said that the Prothean would be a part of the main game. His lines being present in the demo indicate only that they recorded his lines at the same time as eveyrone else - a reasonable thing to do. Many of Kasumi's lines were recorded before ME2.

THis?  Again?  *sigh*