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#1101
Yuoaman

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AxisEvolve wrote...

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Jesus you biodrones really will just be forcefed any ****ing excuse that you're given.
Hell, this isn't even an "excuse" it's some cop out that doesn't even make sense.
But again, you'll mindlessly defend this decision again and again until you're paying subscriptions to play a single player game.
Stay classy.

What thread are you reading? Because 90% of the people posting here are against this and not for it.

Nice trolling.


It's true, there are probably about five or six people who support this ****, and they just keep posting.

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Paragon Auducan wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

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Completely forgot the Hanar worshiped the Protheans, heck the Prothean could get the Hanar in the fight and we would finally see them in action. People who say Protheans aren't important are idiots.


No one said the Protheans aren't important, just that this specific Prothean isn't a huge deal outside of that he's a Prothean.  Plus, how does the rest of the galaxy know that he is what he is?  Hasn't it been mentioned that very little was known about the race itself?

So keep the name-calling off the keyboard and screen.


Then again why create the character.........I'm getting really sick of this now, you guys are just blatant idiots or massive fanboys who just don't want to see it.


YOur entire argument is that he HAS To be important simply because a Prothean and you call other people idiots? your entire argument is based on speculation and conjecture without any evidence or proof other than "HEY ITS A PROTHEAN AND THEY ARE KINDA IMPORTANT TO THE BACKSTORY!" 


It's a freaking exctinct race, it would be like having a Neanderthol come back and everyone completely ignores him.


Most people would

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El Ejcovero wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...
The people complaining about how this is unethical, criminal, etc are rediculous. I dare any of you who keep spouting how this is a terrible unethical business practice to actually even attempt to pursue any sort of legal recourse for unethical behavior and see how long it takes for someone to laugh in your face.


Oh, so we just forget about ethics and morality is that it? All credability I gave you is now gone. Who gives a damn what people think of you if you are following your convictions? The reason we are on the border of economic collapse is precisely because of unethical business practice.


Ahaahahahaahahahha.

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Completely forgot the Hanar worshiped the Protheans, heck the Prothean could get the Hanar in the fight and we would finally see them in action. People who say Protheans aren't important are idiots.


Not only that, but the Drell owe their lives to the Hanar. 


SPOILER IN A NON SPOILERS ALLOWED SECTION. Anyway everyone is spoiling something by talking about Protheans link.

Hannar and Drell join the fight without the Protheans intervention. You only have to save them from the Reapers:D

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Yuoaman wrote...

So this specific DLC was the only reason you bought it? Not all of the other DLC and the actual physical bonuses? Even if it had just been the physical bonuses I would have considered it worth it.


Would all the superficial extras have been enough to justify my $20? Perhaps. However, when I saw the list of stuff that was a bonus for the CE, and the DLC was included, it made me say to mysef, "Woah! That's quite the bang for my buck there." It definitely heavily influenced my decision. You make that DLC that was promised to me as part of my CE available to everyone, and you remove my bang for my buck. While yes, I may have paid $20 for everything else anyway, you devalue the $20 I already spent by making it available to everyone. That make any sense?

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Paragon Auducan wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Completely forgot the Hanar worshiped the Protheans, heck the Prothean could get the Hanar in the fight and we would finally see them in action. People who say Protheans aren't important are idiots.


No one said the Protheans aren't important, just that this specific Prothean isn't a huge deal outside of that he's a Prothean.  Plus, how does the rest of the galaxy know that he is what he is?  Hasn't it been mentioned that very little was known about the race itself?

So keep the name-calling off the keyboard and screen.


Then again why create the character.........I'm getting really sick of this now, you guys are just blatant idiots or massive fanboys who just don't want to see it.


YOur entire argument is that he HAS To be important simply because a Prothean and you call other people idiots? your entire argument is based on speculation and conjecture without any evidence or proof other than "HEY ITS A PROTHEAN AND THEY ARE KINDA IMPORTANT TO THE BACKSTORY!" 


It's a freaking exctinct race, it would be like having a Neanderthol come back and everyone completely ignores him.


Man don't even try to argue with those idiots, bioware defense force slapped on their foreheads.
You can show all the damn logic, the will get like NOOOOO BIOWARE IS RIGHT.

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Hammer6767 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

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So, for all the distrust and hate for Bioware here, I am assuming you folks won't be buying/playing ME3 and will move on to something more productive with your lives?

Not me, I just won't be purchasing future products until this practice is changed to something more favorable to the customer.


So, I wonder if I should be pissed at Toyota.  I just bought my new van and the package I got only had front wheel drive.  The all wheel drive option was on a more expensive trim package.  Shouldn't this very important feature be included in the base package!!!???

Gosh darn it!!  I am calling Toyota to complain it should be free for everyone!  And, I am not going to buy another car until that happens!

Oh, the horror!

 

its an close comparison but it still not  exactly the same.  Upgrading a car that has front wheel drive to all wheel drive is not as simple as downloading a code from  Toyota's website.    

essential if the car you bought that had front-wheel drive  the same exact car that had all wheel drive and they just took the back, flipped a switch and wham bam  its all -wheel. Then  yes you would  have a right to complain because the All-wheel was already they're in the car they just had blocked off and locked.  

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The thing that should be contested is the fact that this should be worth 560 Microsoft Points/7 Dollars like Kasumi. Not that they shouldn't charge for it. You were never promised a DLC with your standard edition, you're not entitled to it.

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Yuoaman wrote...

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Ooohh 10 bucks. AMIGAD, they charged you complainers a McDonalds meal with some nuggets on the side. They just saved you from 3000 calories. 10 bucks can be spent on something much WORSE then DLC, so quit crying about the delicious dlc, with bacon.


Just because you don't appreciate the value of money doesn't mean the rest of don't.



Is EA making you purchase their product? Forcefully? do you have a choice? yes you do.  Dont buy it.

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Draconis6666 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Completely forgot the Hanar worshiped the Protheans, heck the Prothean could get the Hanar in the fight and we would finally see them in action. People who say Protheans aren't important are idiots.


No one said the Protheans aren't important, just that this specific Prothean isn't a huge deal outside of that he's a Prothean.  Plus, how does the rest of the galaxy know that he is what he is?  Hasn't it been mentioned that very little was known about the race itself?

So keep the name-calling off the keyboard and screen.


Then again why create the character.........I'm getting really sick of this now, you guys are just blatant idiots or massive fanboys who just don't want to see it.


YOur entire argument is that he HAS To be important simply because a Prothean and you call other people idiots? your entire argument is based on speculation and conjecture without any evidence or proof other than "HEY ITS A PROTHEAN AND THEY ARE KINDA IMPORTANT TO THE BACKSTORY!" 


It's a freaking exctinct race, it would be like having a Neanderthol come back and everyone completely ignores him.


Most people would


Doubtful, since Neanderthals have quite distinct features which don't manifest in modern humans.

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Draconis6666 wrote...
 the likely hood of people paying for it is unlikely

No you see, that's exactly the ****ing problem. You WILL pay for it. You'd pay for anything that bioware threw at you because you're a mindless consumer with no self respect to actually want a good quality product.
There's no point arguing with you kind of people because you're completely and utterly ignorant to your stupidity.
Here we are, fighting for your right to be given a decent product at a reasonable price so YOU don't get ripped off.
Your response: "BUT HERR DURR ITS ONLY 10 BUCKSSS IF U DUNT WANT IT UD ONT HAV TO BUY IT".
Listen to youreself. You're an idiot.

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Paragon Auducan wrote...
It's a freaking exctinct race, it would be like having a Neanderthol come back and everyone completely ignores him.

Except we know what Neanderthals looked like. People in the Mass Effect Universe (apparently) don't know what Protheans actually look like.

They certainly would wonder what he was, but they wouldn't be dropping to their knees worshipping him. Because they do not know.

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Draconis6666 wrote...

Has it become a hobby for you?, the building of pyramids I mean?

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The thing that should be contested is the fact that this should be worth 560 Microsoft Points/7 Dollars like Kasumi. Not that they shouldn't charge for it. You were never promised a DLC with your standard edition, you're not entitled to it.


We don't know how big the DLC is though. The character might have more dialogue, the mission might be bigger than anything we got from Kasumi.

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In a way, I think the Prothean character is a little bit of a waste. Why create a character that comes from an ancient and supposedly extinct race that was attacked by the Reapers, just to have him completely unimportant to the games plot?

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Yuoaman wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

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Jesus you biodrones really will just be forcefed any ****ing excuse that you're given.
Hell, this isn't even an "excuse" it's some cop out that doesn't even make sense.
But again, you'll mindlessly defend this decision again and again until you're paying subscriptions to play a single player game.
Stay classy.

What thread are you reading? Because 90% of the people posting here are against this and not for it.

Nice trolling.


It's true, there are probably about five or six people who support this ****, and they just keep posting.


Because the people complaining about it are hypocritical and have flawed arguments that they dont even attempt to correct and are so blinded by their sense of entitlement that they spout the same argument over and over and over with out any actual evidence or support to their claims.

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Paragon Auducan wrote...

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Paragon Auducan wrote...

Completely forgot the Hanar worshiped the Protheans, heck the Prothean could get the Hanar in the fight and we would finally see them in action. People who say Protheans aren't important are idiots.


No one said the Protheans aren't important, just that this specific Prothean isn't a huge deal outside of that he's a Prothean.  Plus, how does the rest of the galaxy know that he is what he is?  Hasn't it been mentioned that very little was known about the race itself?

So keep the name-calling off the keyboard and screen.


Then again why create the character.........I'm getting really sick of this now, you guys are just blatant idiots or massive fanboys who just don't want to see it.


Hmm so calling me an idiot and blind is going to drive your argument?

I'm not judging his place in the story, idiot (isn't nice, is it?).  I'm just saying that's the way it is in the game.  We didn't write it, and while I'm sure all of us could suggest dozens of different scenerios, it's too late to change it.  And trust me on this, BioWare has tried different things  with this character, and in the end, it didn't work out.

There is a reason why he is there.  Whether or not you will agree with it, I don't care, just as much as you don't care if I do or not.  It's completely irrelevent.  What is relevent is that he is in there, and that what he does is what he does.

But then again, my opinion is complete **** because I'm not jumping completely on the rage train apparently.

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Draconis6666 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Completely forgot the Hanar worshiped the Protheans, heck the Prothean could get the Hanar in the fight and we would finally see them in action. People who say Protheans aren't important are idiots.


No one said the Protheans aren't important, just that this specific Prothean isn't a huge deal outside of that he's a Prothean.  Plus, how does the rest of the galaxy know that he is what he is?  Hasn't it been mentioned that very little was known about the race itself?

So keep the name-calling off the keyboard and screen.


Then again why create the character.........I'm getting really sick of this now, you guys are just blatant idiots or massive fanboys who just don't want to see it.


YOur entire argument is that he HAS To be important simply because a Prothean and you call other people idiots? your entire argument is based on speculation and conjecture without any evidence or proof other than "HEY ITS A PROTHEAN AND THEY ARE KINDA IMPORTANT TO THE BACKSTORY!" 


It's a freaking exctinct race, it would be like having a Neanderthol come back and everyone completely ignores him.


Most people would


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH .

Of course because that wouldn't be world newspaper first page, website top trend etc etc.
Seriously, you are delusional and your arguments are retarded.

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In a few years we pay an extra 40 euro on top of the actual 60 euro game to have access to all incoming dlc. It will be: the Mega Digital Deluxe edition.

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Man don't even try to argue with those idiots, bioware defense force slapped on their foreheads.
You can show all the damn logic, the will get like NOOOOO BIOWARE IS RIGHT.



Kinda reminds me of the Eagles fans who defended Michael Vick.

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SOLUTION

I play my CE edition and let you guys know how integral he is to the plot, mkay?

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frylock23 wrote...
Wise words.

Anyone who doubts need only study the way EA has handled and destroyed The Sims franchise. When Maxis handled the franchise and produced TS2, the made quality games and quality expansions and stuff packs that for the most part ran pretty flawlessy with each other. The stuff packs were packed with new items to use in decorating and the game had real appeal. Then Maxis sold out to EA and The Sims 3 was made. It has enormous potential, but EA's version has expansions that are only tested with the base game, not the base and any other expansions meaning that each expansion adds more and more bugs into the system as it clashes with other EPs. The so-called patches often don't fix many of the existing issues but have been known to be used to introduce new features under the radar like in-game advertising for the EA store where over-priced items are hawked for EA points. These items are things that Maxis would formerly have put in a stuff pack, and while EA still sells stuff packs, you get less in them than you should for what you pay. What EA really wants if for you to spend in their store where you can easily wind up blowing way too money too quickly.

If you think that $10 dollars for a DLC is too much, consider this - they are selling a single baby swing item from the EA store for $5.  Yep, ONE. SINGLE. ITEM.

This is the future of gaming as far as EA is concerned. They're going to hit you up for as may microtransactions as possible, and it's only a matter of time before they find an extreme level of ridiculousness here too.


How's that tinfoil hat?

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This is ****ing ****, I am so pissed off. I am a longtime Mass Effect fan, I LOVE these games. Now I am getting screwed for being a good customer???

**** OFF BIOWARE.



TB drone  ! Looks like Biodrone are not the only one in this thread :D

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ook then. A member of a race thought extinct for 50k years, that has boggled scientists for hundreds of years, has had archeologists and scientists dedicating decades or centuries to undestand, is assumed to be the foundation for all spacefaring worlds, has a certain race worshipping as gods, has deployed monitoring stations in solarsystems such as earth, has left countless artifacts etc etc isnt pivotal to game lore. Gotcha.

We will just mention a member of such a race in passing and let him serve in a suicide mission instead of letting him undergo intense scientific research, massive questioning, and other trivial stuff.

Thats the logic... right?