SouzaNZ wrote...
Some people here are completely out of touch and borderline insane. I had one guy trying to tell me that because I was advocating that From Ashes be included in all full versions of the game that I was advocating slavery because they weren't getting paid for their work. There are no words....
OdanUrr wrote...
SouzaNZ wrote...
Some people here are completely out of touch and borderline insane. I had one guy trying to tell me that because I was advocating that From Ashes be included in all full versions of the game that I was advocating slavery because they weren't getting paid for their work. There are no words....
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
gigiduru wrote...
stargatefan1990 wrote...
I don't understand the hate really simple terms: In the earliest stages of me3 dev the prothian was scrapped as a squad mate and the mission from the main game since it wasn't needed for the story and in later stages they picked this particular story as CE insentive and so became day 1 payed dlc for non CE. extra dev time/voice work mostdone AFTER THEY FINISHED THE MAIN GAME ALMOST OVER 2 MONTHS AGO, you can easily wait for until the price comes down or not get it at all you won't feel like your missing anything in game certainly does not require 450+ pages of whining and defending(im laughing at myself because im part of the problem now aswell lol)
That is your opinion and you are entitled to it . I'm just a 24 year old gamer that used to buy games that were 100% completed . Then came the Dlc's and that was ok , bc for a modest sum you could have bought some aditional content and you could have started another char and try a different aproach and also enjoy your dlc . But day 1 DLC is just wrong and its smth that ppl like me will never forget .
What i feel sad about is that after the whole bug fest that is SW:The Old Republic and this BS with day 1 DLC , bioware has droped out of my 100% trusted companies . The only one remaining is Blizzard , but they are on the edge with the Panda BS:P
ArkkAngel007 wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Was it reasonable to expect a complete game ? Is it no longer reasonable to expect a complete game ?
If the latter is the case, then it's down to legislation to inform the consumer of this. While this has been huge for the internet very few people off the net are aware of it.
It's even worse for people without online access, they can't even make use of passes. I finished KOA last night, no complaints massive game (by EA) but anyone without an online pass would be missing a HUGE ammount of content.
Bob, we've been over this. It is the complete game that you get on disc, in both the SE and CE. What you don't get in the SE is free access to additonal content to enhance that game experience you get in the retail. I know that it could lead to a slippery slope where vital content is removed and sold separately, and that you like to try and get a jump on that before it's the case, but I do think we're in the green and believe that if it even glances in that direction, EA will be recouping more than just legal costs with Activision.
But I agree that there should be better communication, if anything but to avoid these types of situations and keep customers informed.
I also agree that the general assumption that everyone is locked-into the internet like it's life-support is a rather unhealthy trend. As you mentioned, those with internet access not only can't access the on disc co-op that they payed for, but also all of this extra material. The rule of focus should be inclusion, not exclusion, and that has to go across your entire consumer-base, not just the privlidged ones.
I'm awaiting the day that a very customer-internet relation reliant company's (such as EA with Origin or Valve with Steam [to be fair]) servers undergo some catastrophic event where all that registration information/profile information/cloud jazz is all lost. Now thousands to millions of dollars of investment and product is lost, and you're now facing not only consumers having lost everything, but the company being buried in lost property, breach in license agreement litigation. That should be the consequence at least.
DEMIKLY wrote...
So many cheap sons of b**ches up on BSN.
People wanting Armani when they paid for Walmart,
If you want your Walmart jeans to look as good as the Armanis', you'll need to shell out for tailoring.
Modifié par SouzaNZ, 27 février 2012 - 11:48 .
kingsims wrote...
Through origin judging by Amular. With regional DLC pricing probably. This funny dilbert gif describes the situation.
DEMIKLY wrote...
So many cheap sons of b**ches up on BSN.
People wanting Armani when they paid for Walmart,
If you want your Walmart jeans to look as good as the Armanis', you'll need to shell out for tailoring.
SouzaNZ wrote...
DEMIKLY wrote...
So many cheap sons of b**ches up on BSN.
People wanting Armani when they paid for Walmart,
If you want your Walmart jeans to look as good as the Armanis', you'll need to shell out for tailoring.
Oh shut the hell up. Most people that can afford the regular edition will be able to afford collectors edition. It's not a question of money it's a question of value and for some principle. There are a multitute of reasons why someone would choose the standard edition over the collectors edition, maybe they did't feel that it was worth it, maybe the store had sold out, maybe it wasn't available in their region, maybe they are getting it as a gift and have no choice. It doesn't mean that they deserve and inferior version of the product.
Oh, I don't think I will.SouzaNZ wrote...
DEMIKLY wrote...
So many cheap sons of b**ches up on BSN.
People wanting Armani when they paid for Walmart,
If you want your Walmart jeans to look as good as the Armanis', you'll need to shell out for tailoring.
Oh shut the hell up. Most people that can afford the regular edition will be able to afford collectors edition. It's not a question of money it's a question of value and for some principle. There are a multitute of reasons why someone would choose the standard edition over the collectors edition, maybe they did't feel that it was worth it, maybe the store had sold out, maybe it wasn't available in their region, maybe they are getting it as a gift and have no choice. It doesn't mean that they deserve and inferior version of the product.
wow this threads fast moving, i'm still a few pages behind trying to catch up.
SouzaNZ wrote...
DEMIKLY wrote...
So many cheap sons of b**ches up on BSN.
People wanting Armani when they paid for Walmart,
If you want your Walmart jeans to look as good as the Armanis', you'll need to shell out for tailoring.
Oh shut the hell up. Most people that can afford the regular edition will be able to afford collectors edition. It's not a question of money it's a question of value and for some principle. There are a multitute of reasons why someone would choose the standard edition over the collectors edition, maybe they did't feel that it was worth it, maybe the store had sold out, maybe it wasn't available in their region, maybe they are getting it as a gift and have no choice. It doesn't mean that they deserve and inferior version of the product.
DEMIKLY wrote...
Oh, I don't think I will.
Like I said, you can improve the standard jeans by getting them tailored bro, if there was no tailoring service (aka From Dust being a CE only package), the uproar would be even louder I suspect...
Bioware should have been smarter and released Prothy and his Mission a month after release.. then everyone who didn't get the CE would be grateful to even get access to it, instead of getting the towns pitchforks lined up, torched lit and ready. I don't normally shell out for Collectors editions by the way, but Mass Effect demands it from me.. like a hot, nagging wife.
H1natachan wrote...
Seriously, I really dont understand why people are so fanatical about defending this bad marketing move, I think we all can see where this is going, if they get away by doing this then next time they'll push the boat out even further to milk away. As for these so called CE owners, remember, you may have paid for your little piece of fluff, you may have 'order confirmed' printed at your favorite online retailers, but unless you ordered a digital copy then i really wouldnt crow too much until you actually have the box in your actual hands waiting to go. Karma can be such a fickle **** ... and sometimes it can bite you in the ass.
BobSmith101 wrote...
DEMIKLY wrote...
Oh, I don't think I will.
Like I said, you can improve the standard jeans by getting them tailored bro, if there was no tailoring service (aka From Dust being a CE only package), the uproar would be even louder I suspect...
Bioware should have been smarter and released Prothy and his Mission a month after release.. then everyone who didn't get the CE would be grateful to even get access to it, instead of getting the towns pitchforks lined up, torched lit and ready. I don't normally shell out for Collectors editions by the way, but Mass Effect demands it from me.. like a hot, nagging wife.
Your anology is off. It's more like buying a pair of jeans with a hole in them then being asked for the patch to cover the hole(which should not have been there in the first place).
Problem on both sides is everyone is making value judgements about what it is "worth" where it is important or justs "fluff" none of that matter, all that matters is it's missing.
Considering I just spent £167 curse you Amazon One click . I'm pretty sure It's not about the money.
From ashes just Adds (using your analogy a patch on your jeans showing off what you like) not needed to enjoy the lore and Story i as a perfectionist will get this DLC but it is not needed im sure you will see that when youve played it and seen how complete and awsome it is
Modifié par DrwEddy, 27 février 2012 - 12:08 .
kingsims wrote...
No new DLC is planned atm. The class packs can only be purchased on Origin, XBL, PSN.
You can check this right now on origin (Click on amular and you ll see the option to purchase the class DLC in your local curency). I think bioware will use a combination bioware store + origin.
kingsims wrote...
No new DLC is planned atm. The class packs can only be purchased on Origin, XBL, PSN.
You can check this right now on origin (Click on amular and you ll see the option to purchase the class DLC in your local curency). I think bioware will use a combination bioware store + origin.
stargatefan1990 wrote...
kingsims wrote...
No new DLC is planned atm. The class packs can only be purchased on Origin, XBL, PSN.
You can check this right now on origin (Click on amular and you ll see the option to purchase the class DLC in your local curency). I think bioware will use a combination bioware store + origin.
personaly i have no intrest in that kind of DLC that and items weapons etc (except from when im pre ordering lol) what i care about in DLC is story so none of my moneys going to those kind of items
DrwEddy wrote...
Now I know we all excited for From Ashes content, but we are missing one thing...
Does the Prothean even has a name or he will always be called Prothean?
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Javik.DrwEddy wrote...
Now I know we all excited for From Ashes content, but we are missing one thing...
Does the Prothean even has a name or he will always be called Prothean?
stargatefan1990 wrote...
DrwEddy wrote...
Now I know we all excited for From Ashes content, but we are missing one thing...
Does the Prothean even has a name or he will always be called Prothean?
yes he has a name it's not coming to me but yes he does
Modifié par Dylia, 27 février 2012 - 12:12 .
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