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I came across a comment on YouTube so I thought I'd ask here, they mentioned that Javik is in the game as an NPC and the "From Ashes" DLC just unlocks him as a squadmate, is that correct?


You'll have your answer in about a week.

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So mature.

Can you come up with any other example that has no unit cost ? Or are you reduced to whining?
If you really think that about the hard goods in the CE you are even more naive than I previously gave you credit for.


The patch costs $0.28 if ordered in batches of 2000. Bioware ordered 1000000 in one batch, you do the math.

https://www.asiapatc...ducts/price.php
http://www.americanpatch.com/pricing/

Look up the rest of the items yourself, you'll come to a price of about $1, I told you this 100 pages ago.


Unless you get a list from EA it's just speculation. What is not speculation is that DLC has no unit cost.

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DatIrishFella wrote...

I came across a comment on YouTube so I thought I'd ask here, they mentioned that Javik is in the game as an NPC and the "From Ashes" DLC just unlocks him as a squadmate, is that correct?


no one except in bioware/EA know that for sure but i bet he is if not then the DLC will make sense when the game is out and without you will be missing nothing because it wasnt originaly in the game (to stop people saying they cut it from the game thats on the disc so not true)

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ZX12r Ninja wrote...

DatIrishFella wrote...

I came across a comment on YouTube so I thought I'd ask here, they mentioned that Javik is in the game as an NPC and the "From Ashes" DLC just unlocks him as a squadmate, is that correct?


You'll have your answer in about a week.


Ehh .... Thanks? 

Either way, I preordered the CE, I was just curious. 

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BobSmith101 wrote...

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

So mature.

Can you come up with any other example that has no unit cost ? Or are you reduced to whining?
If you really think that about the hard goods in the CE you are even more naive than I previously gave you credit for.


The patch costs $0.28 if ordered in batches of 2000. Bioware ordered 1000000 in one batch, you do the math.

https://www.asiapatc...ducts/price.php
http://www.americanpatch.com/pricing/

Look up the rest of the items yourself, you'll come to a price of about $1, I told you this 100 pages ago.


Unless you get a list from EA it's just speculation. What is not speculation is that DLC has no unit cost.


yes it does it was made after the original game was completed and sent off for review and testing so the money that was used for Textures/Models etc voicework soundtrack etc dam right they deserve money it is being sold as an enticement for the collectors that with everything else trust me a few quid is a bargain!

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Ok, how about this example then (not wrriten by me but a much more clever person on the Xbox Forums):

You and a friend go to a burger joint. They have the same simple menu of a Burger ($1), Double Burger ($2) and Fries ($1).

Your get the single burger, and your friend decides to splurge and get the double burger. Then, after the orders are placed, the restaurant informs you that they have left pickles off the single burger but they will come on the double burger. To add to the frustration of being told after the fact, you are also told that they are sold out of double burgers so the only way you can get pickles is to pay $.50 extra for them. You have now paid almost as much as your friend has, but your friend has a burger that's twice as big. Now, when you protest this policy, the cashier informs you that pickles are optional and are not required to enjoy the burger. It's only a necessity if you happen to like pickles on your burger. Both of you still get the fries for $1 (the content that's the same between all editions of the game) but your friend has a core burger that's clearly better then yours even though you paid almost as much (regular game with DLC is $70, N7 is $80 and comes with tons of other items.)

To compound the issue, your friend then argues that you're in the wrong because he paid an extra dollar for his burger therefore he's entitled to pickles and you're not, even though you have paid the fair market price for a burger that normally comes with pickles everywhere else.


First of I am not your friend and I do argue that I paid extra and so should you.

The burger analogy is nowhere near complete. Pickels are an optional flavouring component, there are some who don't like it (like me) and have then removed from their burgers. Not all burgers come with pickels, you can verify this by looking at a Mc Donalds or BK menu, the owner of the place might have decided that the flavouring component of pickels isn't needed on the single burger as it isn't the taste they're looking for. But for the double burger they decided to go the all out wammey and added pickels plus a bunch of other sutff.

Fact if you order a single burger and you got a single burger, as advertised. I ordered a double burger and got a double burger, as advertised.


Yes, I know I'm not your friend...

I can't believe all you took away from that is that you don't like pickles.

You know it wasn't actually about pickles, right?

Too many of you people are just lost causes who think you're getting a great deal because they rub a bit of soap on the end before inserting.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

Unless you get a list from EA it's just speculation. What is not speculation is that DLC has no unit cost.


Bla bla bla, wewewe. It's not speculation it's market price. I hardly doubt Bioware would be dumb enough to pay more then the market price specially when they have a bulk order of 1000000 or more pieces.

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ZX12r Ninja wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Unless you get a list from EA it's just speculation. What is not speculation is that DLC has no unit cost.


Bla bla bla, wewewe. It's not speculation it's market price. I hardly doubt Bioware would be dumb enough to pay more then the market price specially when they have a bulk order of 1000000 or more pieces.

i have not been commenting all through out this board but i was here looking since the beginning and he just keeps cracking away theres no point arguing with him he said in another forum he is Renting and not buying so probably not really intrested in the dlc just trying to Troll:lol:

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ZX12r Ninja wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Unless you get a list from EA it's just speculation. What is not speculation is that DLC has no unit cost.


Bla bla bla, wewewe. It's not speculation it's market price. I hardly doubt Bioware would be dumb enough to pay more then the market price specially when they have a bulk order of 1000000 or more pieces.


That is what speculation is.

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stargatefan1990 wrote...

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Unless you get a list from EA it's just speculation. What is not speculation is that DLC has no unit cost.


Bla bla bla, wewewe. It's not speculation it's market price. I hardly doubt Bioware would be dumb enough to pay more then the market price specially when they have a bulk order of 1000000 or more pieces.

i have not been commenting all through out this board but i was here looking since the beginning and he just keeps cracking away theres no point arguing with him he said in another forum he is Renting and not buying so probably not really intrested in the dlc just trying to Troll:lol:


You from the Obsidian forum ?

Or do you mean another thread on this forum?

If the DLC was switched to free I'd probably buy. But right now I have no incentive to do anything that gives Bioware or EA money.

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NeecHMonkeY wrote...

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

NeecHMonkeY wrote...


Ok, how about this example then (not wrriten by me but a much more clever person on the Xbox Forums):

You and a friend go to a burger joint. They have the same simple menu of a Burger ($1), Double Burger ($2) and Fries ($1).

Your get the single burger, and your friend decides to splurge and get the double burger. Then, after the orders are placed, the restaurant informs you that they have left pickles off the single burger but they will come on the double burger. To add to the frustration of being told after the fact, you are also told that they are sold out of double burgers so the only way you can get pickles is to pay $.50 extra for them. You have now paid almost as much as your friend has, but your friend has a burger that's twice as big. Now, when you protest this policy, the cashier informs you that pickles are optional and are not required to enjoy the burger. It's only a necessity if you happen to like pickles on your burger. Both of you still get the fries for $1 (the content that's the same between all editions of the game) but your friend has a core burger that's clearly better then yours even though you paid almost as much (regular game with DLC is $70, N7 is $80 and comes with tons of other items.)

To compound the issue, your friend then argues that you're in the wrong because he paid an extra dollar for his burger therefore he's entitled to pickles and you're not, even though you have paid the fair market price for a burger that normally comes with pickles everywhere else.


First of I am not your friend and I do argue that I paid extra and so should you.

The burger analogy is nowhere near complete. Pickels are an optional flavouring component, there are some who don't like it (like me) and have then removed from their burgers. Not all burgers come with pickels, you can verify this by looking at a Mc Donalds or BK menu, the owner of the place might have decided that the flavouring component of pickels isn't needed on the single burger as it isn't the taste they're looking for. But for the double burger they decided to go the all out wammey and added pickels plus a bunch of other sutff.

Fact if you order a single burger and you got a single burger, as advertised. I ordered a double burger and got a double burger, as advertised.


Yes, I know I'm not your friend...

I can't believe all you took away from that is that you don't like pickles.

You know it wasn't actually about pickles, right?

Too many of you people are just lost causes who think you're getting a great deal because they rub a bit of soap on the end before inserting.


and no you seem to be one of those people who enjoy insulting people unnecesarily Look simple this is Dlc that has had a budget outside the game youl enjoy on the Disc with added on money spent + is an advertised extra for CE there charging a few quid for that DLC? its worth it for me if its not for you do not buy it simple no insulting needed just a goodbye

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or he is genuinely slow no insult meant just some people are

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http://social.biowar...90742/7#9495694 that's were you say your renting i apologize if it seams im insulting i am not just think out loud can be blunt sometimes

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NeecHMonkeY wrote...

Yes, I know I'm not your friend...

I can't believe all you took away from that is that you don't like pickles.

You know it wasn't actually about pickles, right?

Too many of you people are just lost causes who think you're getting a great deal because they rub a bit of soap on the end before inserting.


Yeah I got your analogy but like I said it's nowhere near complete. The SE and CE are advertised with all their components. CE is advertised as getting "pickels" while SE does not. Some don't care about "pickels" some even absolutely hate them, so it is optional for when you buy SE. "Pickels" aren't essential to a burger, it's just a flavouring component. What you need is a bun and a burger everything else is flavouring. hat you're saying is that your friend paid extra and he got pickels but you like pickels too so you demand pickels because it was included in his but not yours.

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ZX12r Ninja wrote...

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

Yes, I know I'm not your friend...

I can't believe all you took away from that is that you don't like pickles.

You know it wasn't actually about pickles, right?

Too many of you people are just lost causes who think you're getting a great deal because they rub a bit of soap on the end before inserting.


Yeah I got your analogy but like I said it's nowhere near complete. The SE and CE are advertised with all their components. CE is advertised as getting "pickels" while SE does not. Some don't care about "pickels" some even absolutely hate them, so it is optional for when you buy SE. "Pickels" aren't essential to a burger, it's just a flavouring component. What you need is a bun and a burger everything else is flavouring. hat you're saying is that your friend paid extra and he got pickels but you like pickels too so you demand pickels because it was included in his but not yours.


what do we get from this?......... whiny

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DatIrishFella wrote...

I came across a comment on YouTube so I thought I'd ask here, they mentioned that Javik is in the game as an NPC and the "From Ashes" DLC just unlocks him as a squadmate, is that correct?


As far as anyone can determine at this time, that's untrue, but, mind you, none of us has the whole game yet, so there may be changes between the tlk files from the demo and the finished game

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stargatefan1990 wrote...

http://social.biowar...90742/7#9495694 that's were you say your renting i apologize if it seams im insulting i am not just think out loud can be blunt sometimes


Same forum different thread. I've said it in this thread too it's not like it's a big secret or anything.

Principle prevents me buying day 1 DLC. I'm not that interested in MP, it's decent but I just don't have the sort of time/will to get into it.

That leaves me with no reason to buy ME3 when I can get it for £5 and probably finish it at least twice.

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ZX12r Ninja wrote...

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

Yes, I know I'm not your friend...

I can't believe all you took away from that is that you don't like pickles.

You know it wasn't actually about pickles, right?

Too many of you people are just lost causes who think you're getting a great deal because they rub a bit of soap on the end before inserting.


Yeah I got your analogy but like I said it's nowhere near complete. The SE and CE are advertised with all their components. CE is advertised as getting "pickels" while SE does not. Some don't care about "pickels" some even absolutely hate them, so it is optional for when you buy SE. "Pickels" aren't essential to a burger, it's just a flavouring component. What you need is a bun and a burger everything else is flavouring. hat you're saying is that your friend paid extra and he got pickels but you like pickels too so you demand pickels because it was included in his but not yours.


I like pickles.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

stargatefan1990 wrote...

http://social.biowar...90742/7#9495694 that's were you say your renting i apologize if it seams im insulting i am not just think out loud can be blunt sometimes


Same forum different thread. I've said it in this thread too it's not like it's a big secret or anything.

Principle prevents me buying day 1 DLC. I'm not that interested in MP, it's decent but I just don't have the sort of time/will to get into it.

That leaves me with no reason to buy ME3 when I can get it for £5 and probably finish it at least twice.


all because of day 1 DLC? that's a bit sad TBH

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obie191970 wrote...

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

Yes, I know I'm not your friend...

I can't believe all you took away from that is that you don't like pickles.

You know it wasn't actually about pickles, right?

Too many of you people are just lost causes who think you're getting a great deal because they rub a bit of soap on the end before inserting.


Yeah I got your analogy but like I said it's nowhere near complete. The SE and CE are advertised with all their components. CE is advertised as getting "pickels" while SE does not. Some don't care about "pickels" some even absolutely hate them, so it is optional for when you buy SE. "Pickels" aren't essential to a burger, it's just a flavouring component. What you need is a bun and a burger everything else is flavouring. hat you're saying is that your friend paid extra and he got pickels but you like pickels too so you demand pickels because it was included in his but not yours.


I like pickles.


mmmmmmm pickle shall we start a fan club? :P jkjk lol

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BobSmith101 wrote...

Same forum different thread. I've said it in this thread too it's not like it's a big secret or anything.

Principle prevents me buying day 1 DLC. I'm not that interested in MP, it's decent but I just don't have the sort of time/will to get into it.

That leaves me with no reason to buy ME3 when I can get it for £5 and probably finish it at least twice.


Problem solved, be bye. See you in another lifetime.

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stargatefan1990 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

stargatefan1990 wrote...

http://social.biowar...90742/7#9495694 that's were you say your renting i apologize if it seams im insulting i am not just think out loud can be blunt sometimes


Same forum different thread. I've said it in this thread too it's not like it's a big secret or anything.

Principle prevents me buying day 1 DLC. I'm not that interested in MP, it's decent but I just don't have the sort of time/will to get into it.

That leaves me with no reason to buy ME3 when I can get it for £5 and probably finish it at least twice.


all because of day 1 DLC? that's a bit sad TBH


Having principles is not all rainbows and unicorns.

It's not really sad for me I end up saving a bunch of money I can spend on another game. I used to buy games new (principle again) but I could have just as easily rented most, as I could do pretty much what I wanted within the rental period anyway.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

stargatefan1990 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

stargatefan1990 wrote...

http://social.biowar...90742/7#9495694 that's were you say your renting i apologize if it seams im insulting i am not just think out loud can be blunt sometimes


Same forum different thread. I've said it in this thread too it's not like it's a big secret or anything.

Principle prevents me buying day 1 DLC. I'm not that interested in MP, it's decent but I just don't have the sort of time/will to get into it.

That leaves me with no reason to buy ME3 when I can get it for £5 and probably finish it at least twice.


all because of day 1 DLC? that's a bit sad TBH


Having principles is not all rainbows and unicorns.

It's not really sad for me I end up saving a bunch of money I can spend on another game. I used to buy games new (principle again) but I could have just as easily rented most, as I could do pretty much what I wanted within the rental period anyway.





I'm not going to argue with you no point im looking forward to my game in a week and a bit i hope when you rent you like it enough to go "oh its good without the DLC i dno what i was worried about!" and go out and buy it i believe bioware when they say theyve pulled out all the stops the mass effect team do not say that unless its true

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and i have principles aswell but i can also tell the difference between a con for money and extra DLC for a nominal cost that is Optional wow so terrible and hard done by because we are being forced to buy it..........lol

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when DLC gets to "to continue you must purchase this pack from origin/Live/PSN thats when i say no but while its optional story content whats wrong with that? its OPTIONAL if you dont want it do not buy it you still have a complete and awesome gaming experience