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BloodyTwix

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On the matter of "DLC character is de facto Zaeed". I have looked up fresh achievement info on one Russian website and it says From Ashes adds two new ones, one of those being "Prothean Expert (Bronze)
Objective: Learn more about the Prothean Empire."

That's our answer. The DLC will contain some critically important lore.

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ZX12r Ninja

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LinksOcarina wrote...

tez19 wrote...

BIOWARE IN STEEP DECLINE. A JOKE DEVELOPER. MONEY GRABBERS.



All I see is this guy with this post.


If you had read the novels you might have known that, although a bit crazy and extremist, there might be some truth to what he's saying. Allbite put in a different context to serve a different goal.

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BloodyTwix wrote...

On the matter of "DLC character is de facto Zaeed". I have looked up fresh achievement info on one Russian website and it says From Ashes adds two new ones, one of those being "Prothean Expert (Bronze)
Objective: Learn more about the Prothean Empire."

That's our answer. The DLC will contain some critically important lore.


How do you get "critically important" from that? Or perhaps I should first ask what you mean by "critically important."

Modifié par AlanC9, 27 février 2012 - 06:53 .


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BloodyTwix wrote...

On the matter of "DLC character is de facto Zaeed". I have looked up fresh achievement info on one Russian website and it says From Ashes adds two new ones, one of those being "Prothean Expert (Bronze)
Objective: Learn more about the Prothean Empire."

That's our answer. The DLC will contain some critically important lore.


Wrong. Thats a leap too far in assumption. We have been told all major plot points and lore elements will be covered in the main game regardless for Protheans, the character will add some more exposition but that context is minor and not "critical" as you proclaim.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 27 février 2012 - 06:54 .


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BloodyTwix wrote...

On the matter of "DLC character is de facto Zaeed". I have looked up fresh achievement info on one Russian website and it says From Ashes adds two new ones, one of those being "Prothean Expert (Bronze)
Objective: Learn more about the Prothean Empire."

That's our answer. The DLC will contain some critically important lore.


Once the game comes out this whole situation is going to get worse for Bioware. Espically when the game ends in a cliffhanger that you need DLC to resolve.

Modifié par Azure33, 27 février 2012 - 06:54 .


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ZX12r Ninja

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BloodyTwix wrote...

On the matter of "DLC character is de facto Zaeed". I have looked up fresh achievement info on one Russian website and it says From Ashes adds two new ones, one of those being "Prothean Expert (Bronze)
Objective: Learn more about the Prothean Empire."

That's our answer. The DLC will contain some critically important lore.


Link please.

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Azure33 wrote...
Once the game comes out this whole situation is going to get worse for Bioware. Espically when the game ends in a cliffhanger that you need DLC to resolve.


800 Bio points says that won't happen.

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Azure33 wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

Azure33 wrote...

stargatefan1990 wrote...

You dont get it, what i meant was a true fan wouldnt wait 5 years they'd probably not wait 5 weeks, maybe a year for the Game of the year edition with alot of the DLC but not 5 years


The problem still exists that I can never own DLC even if I pay for it. If I am a "true fan" and buy all the DLC I can still lose my access to it once Bioware no longer hosts it. Give me an expansion pack disk. Then I can use it whenever I want.


You can always wait for the inevitable GotY discs.


A GotY disc is not inevitable. There is not one for ME2.

Edit: There is also not one for ME1. You can download the DLC for free now, but it is not on the disc.


there will be a classics like with ME1

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BloodyTwix wrote...

On the matter of "DLC character is de facto Zaeed". I have looked up fresh achievement info on one Russian website and it says From Ashes adds two new ones, one of those being "Prothean Expert (Bronze)
Objective: Learn more about the Prothean Empire."

That's our answer. The DLC will contain some critically important lore.


How did you get "critically important lore" from "learning more about the Prothean Empire"? That's like hearing that the Roman language was Latin and assuming you know all the complex socio-political, economic, and military factors that led to its demise.

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stargatefan1990 wrote...

there will be a classics like with ME1


The classic edition of ME1 does not have all the content on it. 

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Even if no GotY edition, if you wait until Christmas, the game'll likely be cheap enough that you can buy the Prothean DLC and still come out ahead financially of those who got bought the SE on release.

Modifié par Wulfram, 27 février 2012 - 07:04 .


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stargatefan1990

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Azure33 wrote...

stargatefan1990 wrote...

there will be a classics like with ME1


The classic edition of ME1 does not have all the content on it. 


it did have all the story based DLC, free themes and music

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BloodyTwix

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ZX12r Ninja wrote...

Link please.


http://www.ag.ru/che..._effect_3/30817 Very bottom of the page.

And concerning the leap towards critical importance assumption... I'd prefer not to get into all those car/burger/pickles metaphors, I'll just say a great deal of fun in ME series comes from the universe you can care about and which is fun to explore (as opposed to many titles in "generic" setting). I am sure that background/history information on the Prothean Empire is very important in that particular universe.

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BloodyTwix wrote...
And concerning the leap towards critical importance assumption... I'd prefer not to get into all those car/burger/pickles metaphors, I'll just say a great deal of fun in ME series comes from the universe you can care about and which is fun to explore (as opposed to many titles in "generic" setting). I am sure that background/history information on the Prothean Empire is very important in that particular universe.


Maybe you should say "very interesting" or "very fun" instead of "critically important," then.

I hope the DLC is interesting and fun. Not worth buying if it isn't.

Edit: what I mean is that right now I don't think the DLC is worth $10. I'd like to be wrong about that.

Modifié par AlanC9, 27 février 2012 - 07:25 .


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ZX12r Ninja

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BloodyTwix wrote...

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

Link please.


http://www.ag.ru/che..._effect_3/30817 Very bottom of the page.

And concerning the leap towards critical importance assumption... I'd prefer not to get into all those car/burger/pickles metaphors, I'll just say a great deal of fun in ME series comes from the universe you can care about and which is fun to explore (as opposed to many titles in "generic" setting). I am sure that background/history information on the Prothean Empire is very important in that particular universe.


You know those are multiplayer objectives right?

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Thought I would share not sure how to link it.
http://www.computera...-first-verdict/

also congrats BioWare.

("Currently our pre-orders have broken the targets set, we are well ahead
of where we were at the same point with Mass Effect 2 and we have all
of the platforms aligned for launch, which is a first for the Mass
Effect franchise," Graham added.)

Modifié par RDSFirebane, 27 février 2012 - 07:22 .


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YOU PRESS A BUTTON AND SOMETHING AWESOME HAS TO HAPPEN, BUTTON AWESOME, CONNECTED NOW IN MASS EFFECT 3. SELLOUTS!

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tez19 wrote...

YOU PRESS A BUTTON AND SOMETHING AWESOME HAS TO HAPPEN, BUTTON AWESOME, CONNECTED NOW IN MASS EFFECT 3. SELLOUTS!


Can anyone else tell that this guy's just back from a 24-hour ban?

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Ok question for the people on the complaint side of this argument?

Is this worse or even at the same level as to what Blizzard did with Starcraft 2. Everyone jokes about how eventually games will be split into parts because of the way DLC is going but Starcraft 2 is literally sold in 3 parts each for full price. How is what Bioware doing even at the same level as that?

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tez19 wrote...

YOU PRESS A BUTTON AND SOMETHING AWESOME HAS TO HAPPEN, BUTTON AWESOME, CONNECTED NOW IN MASS EFFECT 3. SELLOUTS!


WAIT A MINUTE. SAINTS ROW 3 HAS A BUTTON THAT IS EXPLICITLY LABELED "THE AWESOME BUTTON". BIOWARE IS RIPPING OFF VOLITION. PRE-ORDER CANCELLED, SHAMELESS STEALING RUINS THE INDUSTRY. FOR SHAME, BIOWARE. 

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Hi. Just wanted to say that my opinion of Bioware has completely changed over the course of the last year or so. Instead of a quality company that makes classic games, they've become another spineless developer who won't/can't withstand publisher pressure in order to provide for their customer's best interests.

In a game as big and commercially successful as Mass Effect, do you really need to cheap shot long time fans with price-gouging DLC? It's shameful, really.

I've been buying Bioware games on day 1 for a long time, DA2 was the first time I didn't since KOTOR. It takes a long time and a lot of effort to build a positive reputation as a quality company that produces memorable experiences their customers remember and appreciate for a long time. It only takes a couple missteps like this one to destroy that relationship and change your companies image permanently for the worse.

The Hubris of Bioware is too much for me now. I will wait to buy Mass Effect 3 until it is bundled as a trilogy with ALL CONTENT COMPLETE AND INCLUDED. Until then, you might as well change my handle to the YARRRRbitor because I see no reason to deprive myself of something I've been anticipating for years simply because of your companies outright, blatant, and abusive avarice.

Bioware, you are destroying the reputation that you've worked so hard to establish for yourselves over the years. Is it really worth it, for some 10$ DLC? I guess you think so...

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DOZAH wrote...
The Hubris of Bioware is too much for me now. I will wait to buy Mass Effect 3 until it is bundled as a trilogy with ALL CONTENT COMPLETE AND INCLUDED. Until then, you might as well change my handle to the YARRRRbitor because I see no reason to deprive myself of something I've been anticipating for years simply because of your companies outright, blatant, and abusive avarice.


File this one under "outrageous sense of entitlement," folks.

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tez19 wrote...

YOU PRESS A BUTTON AND SOMETHING AWESOME HAS TO HAPPEN, BUTTON AWESOME, CONNECTED NOW IN MASS EFFECT 3. SELLOUTS!


You're reminding me more and more of the batarian "prophet" on Omega every day.

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DOZAH wrote...

Bioware, you are destroying the reputation that you've worked so hard to establish for yourselves over the years. Is it really worth it, for some 10$ DLC? I guess you think so...


I'm sorry but if one 10 dollar DLC is all it took to ruin BioWare for you guys I have to question what you think a fan is...

Use sports fans for example they seem to support their teams no matter whats going on or how bad they hate them at that moment. maybe we should all take note from that just sayin.

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Azure33 wrote...

BloodyTwix wrote...

On the matter of "DLC character is de facto Zaeed". I have looked up fresh achievement info on one Russian website and it says From Ashes adds two new ones, one of those being "Prothean Expert (Bronze)
Objective: Learn more about the Prothean Empire."

That's our answer. The DLC will contain some critically important lore.

Once the game comes out this whole situation is going to get worse for Bioware. Espically when the game ends in a cliffhanger that you need DLC to resolve.

Pretty sure Square Enix already have that one covered. If EA/BioWare tried it Sqare Enix would acuse them of copying and try to sue them ;)

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Also:

computerandvideogames.com wrote...

No loose ends or cliffhangers, the game is truly an appropriate end to the trilogy with a very intense and touching finale

Source: http://www.computera...-first-verdict/

Modifié par BTCentral, 27 février 2012 - 07:38 .