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[loungeshep]

Spartan901 wrote...

so maybe someone could clarify. Am i correct in understanding that if I have the Collectors Edition, but want the additional appearance pack for my entire squad, I still need to pay for the From Ashes DLC? (It was stated the appearance pack was in addition to the one already announced for the CE)

No. It comes with the Collector's Edition. 

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Xellana wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

Why is everyone upset? Prothey brings nothing new to the game. What, do you expect him to show up with the perfect Reaper killing weapon? If it was perfect, why didn't they use it in the first place? Would he tell us some super awesome secret about the Reapers? We're going to kill them, who cares what kind of giant underpants they wear. Prothey is literally just a fan item. You don't need him. And if his Jamacian accent proves to be real, you won't want him in the first place. Get over this "I'm entitled to everything" syndrome and just be excited to see how your Shepard fares in the last chapter. Geez...

You obviously don´t care about the ME Story. And that´s totally okay with me.
What makes me really sad though is that it seems Bioware also doesn´t care about their story if they introduce a prothean that has no impact on this world whatsoever. The Hanar alone, who worship the protheans as gods, would be totally mind blown if there was actually a living prothean. It doesn´t matter if he has the perfect reaper killing weapon or if he is a totally unimportant douchebag.
He would still be extremely important to this universe.

I care about the story. You know who's story this is though? SHEPARD'S STORY.  If the Mass Effect story was about the Protheans, we would have started out as one. He is not important unless he has something useful to bring to the fight. So does he have a Super Mega Reaper Buster 9000 in his inventory? No. Does he know of a secret underground cache of Prothean tech that can disable a Reaper from two galaxies away? No. Does he have compatible sexual organs that your Shepard can work with before the final battle? Maybe, but I think that falls under "intercourse with a minor aged civilization" law that prevents Prothey from doing that. So unless Bioware told you that NOT having Prothey means you will not have the best ending, it has no impact on your game, my game or even my friend Jim from Long Island's game. If you want to say "Hey I got as Prothean" buy the CE or wait until ME3: GotY edition drops. Otherwise, get over it.

[OdanUrr]

Draconis6666 wrote...

The argument of "not having a prothean in the main game" is criminal because it deprives you of your ability to find out interesting backstory that has little or no relevance at all to the plot of the actual game you have purchased but only to flesh out the overall mythos is exactly what they are talking about when they mention entitlement.

I'm assuming you're referring to my post but my point is probably, by no means, that original. First of all, if you believe my post somehow says I'm entitled to anything then I suggest you read again. Mass Effect is Bioware's IP and they can do whatever they want with it as far as I'm concerned. As a person I can agree or disagree with what they do with it and expose my reasons why and ultimately "vote with my wallet."

I merely believe it was a wasted PR opportunity that would have garnered a lot of good will with the fan base. Period. Furthermore, I elaborated that if the purpose was to appeal to "long-time" fans the solution (including it in the CE) was not the most efficient one.

[EvilBeaver426]

To Bioware/EA: this is unacceptable. Utterly unacceptable that you would make a character as important and integral to the ME lore paid DLC.

[Yuoaman]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

It's true, there are probably about five or six people who support this ****, and they just keep posting.

Something else to consider (and what a shocker!): Most folks don't care, or have already come to a decision, and have decided simply to not say anything because there's no point. 

We can always change things - the Deception thread is proof of that.

[Revolar]

Draconis6666 wrote...
10-20 years you should be paying a hundred dollars or more for most games.

You clearly have no understanding of supply and demand.
Please shut the **** up, you're clearly too ****ing ignorant to warrant an opinion on ANYTHING.

[TK EL_]

Spartanburger wrote...

TK EL wrote...

SOLUTION

I play my CE edition and let you guys know how integral he is to the plot, mkay?

Can I join?

Sure, warning though I will be playing Jamaican music in the background. Want my gamertag?

[StElmo]

I am disgusted with bioware and EA, disgusted.

[TwwlX]

Well, thanks for making my decision easier for me, Mikey! Your response has saved me $60.
Good luck with your endeavors of continuing to take advantage of your game's fan base.

[Dave of Canada]

Michael Gamble wrote...

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.
 

Sorry, I have difficulty believing this considering the Prothean was in all script leaks and used to be pretty vital to the main plot at one point.

[Draconis6666]

StElmo wrote...

The problem is that publishers are shoehorning people into

A) Getting screwed by the corporations for being loyal fans.
Boycotting, and not being able to play the game, because of poor choices on the publishers part.
C) Pirating the game so they can play it, but reinforcing the publishers belief that they are dirty theievs, not legit customers.

C is not relevant because people have never needed an excuse to pirate, its been shown over and over that the vast majority of people who Pirate would pirate anyway regardless of their options.

[El Ejcovero]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

It's true, there are probably about five or six people who support this ****, and they just keep posting.

Something else to consider (and what a shocker!): Most folks don't care, or have already come to a decision, and have decided simply to not say anything because there's no point. 

Well, they did lock down the 70 page thread, this is just continuing the discussion over there... A lot of people over there already posted that they cancelled their preorder and whatnot... So, a lot of people on the forum do care... Just add the pages in this thread to the last one...

[Yuoaman]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

ook then. A member of a race thought extinct for 50k years, that has boggled scientists for hundreds of years, has had archeologists and scientists dedicating decades or centuries to undestand, is assumed to be the foundation for all spacefaring worlds, has a certain race worshipping as gods, has deployed monitoring stations in solarsystems such as earth, has left countless artifacts etc etc isnt pivotal to game lore. Gotcha.

We will just mention a member of such a race in passing and let him serve in a suicide mission instead of letting him undergo intense scientific research, massive questioning, and other trivial stuff.

Thats the logic... right?

According to some people, yes.

Everything you stated isn't the truth though. Protheans didn't create Mass Relay, they aren't the real foundation of spacefaring, they didn't construct the Citadel, they didn't simply vanish. All that come from the Reapers. Protheans "might" only exist because they are the only one that could have explain why there is a citadel/mass relay and such in the galaxy. By this fact Protheans are overrated and should not be consider as high important. The most they did was give the next cycle a chance to fight back via a beacon and sabotage of keepers signal. < nice **** though you have to give them that.

Except that many people are genuinely interested in a character who lived through the last time the Reapers arrived and to give us some insight into his people's culture.

[CDRSkyShepard]

nitefyre410 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

So this specific DLC was the only reason you bought it? Not all of the other DLC and the actual physical bonuses? Even if it had just been the physical bonuses I would have considered it worth it.

Would all the superficial extras have been enough to justify my $20? Perhaps. However, when I saw the list of stuff that was a bonus for the CE, and the DLC was included, it made me say to mysef, "Woah! That's quite the bang for my buck there." It definitely heavily influenced my decision. You make that DLC that was promised to me as part of my CE available to everyone, and you remove my bang for my buck. While yes, I may have paid $20 for everything else anyway, you devalue the $20 I already spent by making it available to everyone. That make any sense?

 

Perhaps ? Do you know how much artbooks and soundtracks run seperate... the Artbook  can be anywhere from 10 and up... the soundtrack could be between 10 - 20 or higher  depending on the game sense this Bioware is  bit cheaper than say a  Final Fantasy soundtrack  that could be 30 bucks because of having to import it. 

So combined alone with the Artbook and  Soundtrack minus everything else  you have your $20 there.  

I see what you are trying  too say but it just does not add up. 

The Artbook  alone is $26  bucks on Amazon.

First off, it's not the same art book as Art of the Mass Effect Universe that sells for $26 on Amazon

Second, yeah, all of that added up equals my $20 right there, but that's why you buy them all together at the same time...to get a bargain, you see? If I wanted to pay for the price of each of the pieces parts, I would have bought them all separately instead of in the CE bundle. This DLC was advertised as part of this bargain from the beginning. You can't pull the rug out from under those of us who bought the CE with the thought in mind that we were going to be paying an extra $20 for the art book, tin case, robodog, etc, and the Prothean squadmate.

[Fedorcyclops]

As a longtime Bioware i am speechless and disgusted.
and i pre-ordered the CE version, but this really sicken me.

I hope the Totalbiscuit army will wake your greedy ass up Bioware/EA.

[Sacae]

Really? You guys are really cancelling pre-orders and lashing out on Bioware?

I could only read up to page 12 before the amount of negative in this thread became too much. There is so much wrong with the logic of this thread. You come onto Bioware forums, for a game you no longer going to buy, so you can complain - come back to the forums - response to others. If you aren't getting the game then wash your hands of this BS. Don't waste time bickering and complaining on a forum. It's your life, sure, waste time doing it. But, it's still a waste of your time.

You are going to miss playing a decent game because of what may or may not be true - so be it. But, don't let some stupid youtube video put ideas and words into your mouth. I'm tired of people saying exactly what's in the video. Get your own minds and stop being easily influence by that video and everyone repeating it.

I don't know how good this game is going to be - but I'm a Mass Effect fan, I'm buying it and all DLC. That's just me. If it turn out decent, money well spent. Not every game is going to be the next big thing. Just as every movie isn't going to get awarded. You paying for entertainment - not entitlement.

If you don't want this entertainment, just - like I said - wash your hands of it. Don't waste your time throwing pebbles in the hatred pool.

Whatever is true or not true, I don't care. I'm willing to still pay for the final piece of this trilogy.

[Yuoaman]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.
 

Sorry, I have difficulty believing this considering the Prothean was in all script leaks and used to be pretty vital to the main plot at one point.

Yeah, they aren't doing a great job with damage control here.

[The Tesla Effect]

Prothy is optional, words can not describe how big of bull s**t this is.

[Crackseed]

Spartan901 wrote...

so maybe someone could clarify. Am i correct in understanding that if I have the Collectors Edition, but want the additional appearance pack for my entire squad, I still need to pay for the From Ashes DLC? (It was stated the appearance pack was in addition to the one already announced for the CE)

No. If you have the CE, you will get all those goodies [Prothean, Eden Prime, extra squad oufits and a weapon] at no extra charge.

[Bluumberry]

Revolar wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...
10-20 years you should be paying a hundred dollars or more for most games.

You clearly have no understanding of supply and demand.
Please shut the **** up, you're clearly too ****ing ignorant to warrant an opinion on ANYTHING.

Funny how you described yourself so aptly.

[H1natachan]

tybad1 wrote...

Theres so much wrong with this DLC. This is the 3rd time ive tried this, so im not gonna type everything again. this video will tell ya whats wrong with this DLC.

You can try and rationise it all you like Bioware, i totally agree with the sentiment on that link,  unfortunately i wont be purchasing M.3.  unless the prothean dlc charging bs is recended.  Crying shame as i was looking forward somewhat ( albeit nervously after last years D.A.2 fiasco ) to finishing shepards adventure.

[RiouHotaru]

El Ejcovero wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

It's true, there are probably about five or six people who support this ****, and they just keep posting.

Something else to consider (and what a shocker!): Most folks don't care, or have already come to a decision, and have decided simply to not say anything because there's no point. 

Well, they did lock down the 70 page thread, this is just continuing the discussion over there... A lot of people over there already posted that they cancelled their preorder and whatnot... So, a lot of people on the forum do care... Just add the pages in this thread to the last one...

Except it's not really new people, it's mostly the same people posting again and again.

[IBPROFEN]

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

Paragon Auducan wrote...

Completely forgot the Hanar worshiped the Protheans, heck the Prothean could get the Hanar in the fight and we would finally see them in action. People who say Protheans aren't important are idiots.

They arent because the hanar could worship anything and it wouldnt change the plot of the series

But they worship the Protheans not 'anything', humans could shoot lightbeams out of their arse if Biowarse said they could but they don't.

  LOL @ last quote. They would have if they could figure out how to install the Thermal Clips patch in progress.

Modifié par IBPROFEN, 23 février 2012 - 01:47 .

[nitefyre410]

Yuoaman wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

It's true, there are probably about five or six people who support this ****, and they just keep posting.

Something else to consider (and what a shocker!): Most folks don't care, or have already come to a decision, and have decided simply to not say anything because there's no point. 

We can always change things - the Deception thread is proof of that.

 

that it is.. that it is.