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[Takamori The Templar]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.
 

Sorry, I have difficulty believing this considering the Prothean was in all script leaks and used to be pretty vital to the main plot at one point.

Meanwhile at Bioware HQ:

Damn we need to justify that DLC day 1.

*few hours later*
Hey I got an idea!But who will post it on the forums?

*everyone saying not me, Michael arrive from the bathroom*

Hey guys what's going on?

[Crackseed]

El Ejcovero wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

It's true, there are probably about five or six people who support this ****, and they just keep posting.

Something else to consider (and what a shocker!): Most folks don't care, or have already come to a decision, and have decided simply to not say anything because there's no point. 

Well, they did lock down the 70 page thread, this is just continuing the discussion over there... A lot of people over there already posted that they cancelled their preorder and whatnot... So, a lot of people on the forum do care... Just add the pages in this thread to the last one...

Based on what I see, there's not "alot" of people saying they are cancelling as much as I see the same names repeating the same stuff over and over and trying to call those of us who don't have an issue with this fanboys, diodrones and idiots. Admittedly, some of the supporters are being equally as base, but yeah - please don't try to pretend you have an inkling of how many people are genuinely cancelling

[Yuoaman]

Sacae wrote...

Really? You guys are really cancelling pre-orders and lashing out on Bioware?

I could only read up to page 12 before the amount of negative in this thread became too much. There is so much wrong with the logic of this thread. You come onto Bioware forums, for a game you no longer going to buy, so you can complain - come back to the forums - response to others. If you aren't getting the game then wash your hands of this BS. Don't waste time bickering and complaining on a forum. It's your life, sure, waste time doing it. But, it's still a waste of your time.

You are going to miss playing a decent game because of what may or may not be true - so be it. But, don't let some stupid youtube video put ideas and words into your mouth. I'm tired of people saying exactly what's in the video. Get your own minds and stop being easily influence by that video and everyone repeating it.

I don't know how good this game is going to be - but I'm a Mass Effect fan, I'm buying it and all DLC. That's just me. If it turn out decent, money well spent. Not every game is going to be the next big thing. Just as every movie isn't going to get awarded. You paying for entertainment - not entitlement.

If you don't want this entertainment, just - like I said - wash your hands of it. Don't waste your time throwing pebbles in the hatred pool.

Whatever is true or not true, I don't care. I'm willing to still pay for the final piece of this trilogy.

I already paid for my CE in full, so yeah I'll be playing the game, and this DLC. I just think it's wholly uneithical for them to not include something this monumental to the lore of Mass Effect in the game itself - it just boggles the mind.

[Synthmilk]

Those people claiming that we should be glad to get this content at all sound like Stockholm Syndrome victims to me.  Trying to claim we should be grateful to get anything at all, regardless of the price or questionable value?  Really?

A living, breathing, free Prothean is a major story element because we have been told quite explicitly by the story that the Prothean's last ditch effort to save some of their race failed.

We were there, we saw, we know.  We also know that the Prothean's were working on tech beyond that salvaged from what the Reapers left behind, tools and weapons that they were making to fight the Reapers, but didn't finish in time.  The little Mass Relay in the Citadel for example, HUGE tactical uses for such a technology.

It's been established that Protheans are a big deal and any and all information we can get about them is of VITAL importance to the fight.

THAT is why having a Prothean as Day 1 DLC that is not free, is simply a cash grab, they know people WANT to te point of NEED that sense of closure to truely enjoy the story. IF as some people have said this Prothean is no big deal, doesn't impact the story in any way and basically doesn't need to exist, then what the hell was the big buildup around the Protheans in the first place?  Why spend ALL of ME1 hunting them down, leading to the Reaper reveal, if finally getting to meet one is no big deal?

Which begs the question:  If the Prothean is no big deal to the story, then why bother making the DLC have a Prothean at all?  Unless there is something important about him, anything to do with him will be a major dissapointment, and if there is something important about him, he should be in the main game.

And for full disclosure, I pre-ordered the Digital Deluxe Edition, and will be canceling that pre-order.  If they tell me I can't, I'll just call my credit card company and tell them to not authorize payment on relese day.

Modifié par Synthmilk, 23 février 2012 - 01:56 .

[Bluumberry]

El Ejcovero wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

It's true, there are probably about five or six people who support this ****, and they just keep posting.

Something else to consider (and what a shocker!): Most folks don't care, or have already come to a decision, and have decided simply to not say anything because there's no point. 

Well, they did lock down the 70 page thread, this is just continuing the discussion over there... A lot of people over there already posted that they cancelled their preorder and whatnot... So, a lot of people on the forum do care... Just add the pages in this thread to the last one...

1) Not everyone in these pages have cancelled their preorders
2) Only the minority even visit forums

[Volc19]

All of my love<3

Prothy has to be of the best characters in the series, and now everyone knows about him. I can't wait for some screenshots and maybe a trailer come friday.

Also, some questions if anyone can answer:
Does Prothy get a new costume aswel?
Do any of the weapons or costumes relate to the Protheans?
Is Eden Prime like a loyalty mission, or is it where we find him?

[Draconis6666]

OdanUrr wrote...


I'm assuming you're referring to my post but my point is probably, by no means, that original. First of all, if you believe my post somehow says I'm entitled to anything then I suggest you read again. Mass Effect is Bioware's IP and they can do whatever they want with it as far as I'm concerned. As a person I can agree or disagree with what they do with it and expose my reasons why and ultimately "vote with my wallet."

I merely believe it was a wasted PR opportunity that would have garnered a lot of good will with the fan base. Period. Furthermore, I elaborated that if the purpose was to appeal to "long-time" fans the solution (including it in the CE) was not the most efficient one.

I actualy was not refering to your post, but yes what you just said is completely true everone has the right to decide that they wont buy the product because they don tlike it. They dont have the right to control what product someone else makes or how they market it though. The problem was that there is such a huge sense of entitlement that there was never going to be a happy ending no matter what they did unless they just give everything for free to everyone at the same price someone is going to complain that they deserve XXX too even though they didnt pay as much as someone else.

[The Tesla Effect]

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Michael Gamble wrote...

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.
 

Sorry, I have difficulty believing this considering the Prothean was in all script leaks and used to be pretty vital to the main plot at one point.

Meanwhile at Bioware HQ:

Damn we need to justify that DLC day 1.

*few hours later*
Hey I got an idea!But who will post it on the forums?

*everyone saying not me, Michael arrive from the bathroom*

Hey guys what's going on?

LOL!

[Yuoaman]

We're nearing 50 pages and Bioware still hasn't recognized that the fandom is pissed... sounds familiar.

[StElmo]

Draconis6666 wrote...

StElmo wrote...

The problem is that publishers are shoehorning people into

A) Getting screwed by the corporations for being loyal fans.
Boycotting, and not being able to play the game, because of poor choices on the publishers part.
C) Pirating the game so they can play it, but reinforcing the publishers belief that they are dirty theievs, not legit customers.

C is not relevant because people have never needed an excuse to pirate, its been shown over and over that the vast majority of people who Pirate would pirate anyway regardless of their options.

Maybe, I don't pirate, that is for sure. I don't condone it either. But many people I know will pirate it because of this, not because they pirate everything.

[ArkkAngel007]

Yuoaman wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

It's true, there are probably about five or six people who support this ****, and they just keep posting.

Something else to consider (and what a shocker!): Most folks don't care, or have already come to a decision, and have decided simply to not say anything because there's no point. 

We can always change things - the Deception thread is proof of that.

The problem is, the majority of the people in opposition of it aren't backing it up with solutions or anything of the sort.  Just a lot of hate speech and attacking anyone who has any sort of differing opinion.

Deception was changed because we all agreed on the faults of it and backed up our claims with both evidence and suggestions.

That is far from the case here.  Many of us who are "fanboys" and "idiots" agree that Day 1 DLC probably shouldn't be priced ($10 is really steep, I might add, for a single hour or two mission with a character and suits).  A lot of us also agree that the Prothean is important to the fans.  But everything else, mostly by those angry, are just being ***holes without actually contributing anything.  Yes, there are quite a few who have demonstrated their point very well and professionally, but there should be more doing so then those who seem to want nothing more than to fight.

[ElementL09]

It'd be easier for consumers if From Ashes was available to everyone who bought at new copy of the game day 1. The CE is already worth it's price without From Ashes DLC.

[gabe2gg]

 Bioware fanboys are so blind its not even funny. Keep drinking the kool aid.

[TAK The Voyager]

StElmo wrote...

The problem is that publishers are shoehorning people into

A) Getting screwed by the corporations for being loyal fans.
Boycotting, and not being able to play the game, because of poor choices on the publishers part.
C) Pirating the game so they can play it, but reinforcing the publishers belief that they are dirty theievs, not legit customers.

There's almost no way to win this.

[Sargerus]

Yuoaman wrote...

We're nearing 50 pages and Bioware still hasn't recognized that the fandom is pissed... sounds familiar.

DA2? Arrival? SWTOR?  

[loungeshep]

If all this energy were used for the problems in the world be it corruption, hunger, disease, or etc, a lot of good could be done.

Sadly it's being wasted on something as pointless as a video game. Stay classy humanity, you. Stay. classy.

[LaxeCas]

scum EA,

first hamburger helper now this.....

canceled pre-order, time will tell if i will buy game depending on how good online will be

[V1per7]

Synthmilk wrote...

Those people claiming that we should be glad to get this content at all sound like Stockholm Syndrome victims to me.  Trying to claim we should be grateful to get anything at all, regardless of the price or questionable value?  Really?

A living, breathing, free Prothean is a major story element because we have been told quite explicitly by the story that the Prothean's last ditch effort to save some of their race failed.

We were there, we saw, we know.  We also know that the Prothean's were working on tech beyond that salvaged from what the Reapers left behind, tools and weapons that they were making to fight the Reapers, but didn't finish in time.  The little Mass Relay in the Citadel for example, HUGE tactical uses for such a technology.

It's been established that Protheans are a big deal and any and all information we can get about them is of VITAL importance to the fight.

THAT is why having a Prothean as Day 1 DLC that is not free, is simply a cash grab, they know people WANT to te point of NEED that sense of closure to truely enjoy the story. IF as some people have said this Prothean is no big deal, doesn't impact the story in any way and basically doesn't need to exist, then what the hell was the big buildup around the Protheans in the first place?  Why spend ALL of ME1 hunting them down, leading to the Reaper reveal, if finally getting to meet one is no big deal?

Which begs the question:  If the Prothean is no big deal to the story, then why bother making the DLC have a Prothean at all?  Unless there is something important about him, anything to do with him will be a major dissapointment, and if there is something important about him, he should be in the main game.

someone with logic....good sir, it is rare you see your kind around. thank you!

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Fedorcyclops wrote...

As a longtime Bioware i am speechless and disgusted.
and i pre-ordered the CE version, but this really sicken me.

I hope the Totalbiscuit army will wake your greedy ass up Bioware/EA.

AND there it is. The real reason why people have their undies in a bunch. Because TB told you to.

I swear, that man causes more internet riots than 4chan and Anonymous combined.

FYI: If you really want to boycott EA, it'd probably be more effective if you boycott ALL EA products. It doesn't prove a point that you don't buy Mass Effect 3 and then go to your closest Gamestop and ask about a Madden 2014 preorder.

[Yuoaman]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

It's true, there are probably about five or six people who support this ****, and they just keep posting.

Something else to consider (and what a shocker!): Most folks don't care, or have already come to a decision, and have decided simply to not say anything because there's no point. 

We can always change things - the Deception thread is proof of that.

The problem is, the majority of the people in opposition of it aren't backing it up with solutions or anything of the sort.  Just a lot of hate speech and attacking anyone who has any sort of differing opinion.

Deception was changed because we all agreed on the faults of it and backed up our claims with both evidence and suggestions.

That is far from the case here.  Many of us who are "fanboys" and "idiots" agree that Day 1 DLC probably shouldn't be priced ($10 is really steep, I might add, for a single hour or two mission with a character and suits).  A lot of us also agree that the Prothean is important to the fans.  But everything else, mostly by those angry, are just being ***holes without actually contributing anything.  Yes, there are quite a few who have demonstrated their point very well and professionally, but there should be more doing so then those who seem to want nothing more than to fight.

The best solution would be to just return to the system that worked in Mass Effect 2, include the Day 1 DLC fro free with new copies, and have used buyers purchase an online pass.

[nickkcin11]

Yuoaman wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

It's true, there are probably about five or six people who support this ****, and they just keep posting.

Something else to consider (and what a shocker!): Most folks don't care, or have already come to a decision, and have decided simply to not say anything because there's no point. 

We can always change things - the Deception thread is proof of that.

That was a horrible book filled with multiple breaches of cannon and a slap in the face to everyone who cares about the ME universe. This is 10 or 15 dollars. They're not going to suddenly be like "Oh, you guys don't want to pay? Here it is for free!"

[Draconis6666]

Revolar wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...
10-20 years you should be paying a hundred dollars or more for most games.

You clearly have no understanding of supply and demand.
Please shut the **** up, you're clearly too ****ing ignorant to warrant an opinion on ANYTHING.

And you clearly have no understanding of inflation or how much it actualy costs to produce games in relation to 10 years ago.

[Xargo]

"The Collectors Edition has been sold out in most places for some time now, and is becoming very hard to find (many players prefer not to purchase the digital version)" I'm confused , on Gamestop's website it says the Xbox 360 version is sold out but I just pre-ordered it for the PC and the order went through. So am I good or will the pre-order terminate in a few days due to Bioware technically being sold out of the N7 Collector's Edition?

[nitefyre410]

Yuoaman wrote...

We're nearing 50 pages and Bioware still hasn't recognized that the fandom is pissed... sounds familiar.

 

Nope  Deja'vu  - just a glitch in the Matrix nothing to worry about...