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[LumpOfCole]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

It it was posted, I missed it, but TB strikes again.

www.youtube.com/watch

He makes some very good and very interesting points... especially on the subject that if 'From Ashes' was really started and finished in a month is it really worth the $10 price.

For all of my displeasure about what EA and Bioware are doing though, I don't actually support his boycott simply because it wont work... it already hasn't. I think his mind and intentions are well and truly in the right place but it's doomed to fail. I only need to read the majority of the posts here to see that.

Personally, I hope that companies like EA and Activision take this kind of thing even further, to the point of being absolutely ridiculous. That's really the only way that everyone will start fighting back and Publishers will be forced to stop this nonsense.

I agree with most of what he said , but I have a  issue with some of it.No one should be going around demonizing someone/me for stiill buying the game and not cancelling my pre-order(which he mentioned no one shouldn't be doing this).My other issue is he's still saying mis-information that the dlc was created and done within the span of a month(with all the testing theirs no way you could do this).Dlc  must be concepted/basic work ahead of time which is why it might have been in the leak or demo , but they said it has taken them from late January to now  completly finsh but work on the dlc itself happened further back in development.

Bottom line is most of what I heard I agreed with , but I still think the calling for a boycott/mis-information on the dlc process is mis-leading and inciting anger due to his viewers.I just think the indivdual has a right to decide not to buy  vs someone giving mis-information out to the public for them to riot(and not fully understanding the process).

Unfortunately, inciting anger, even unrationalized anger by clearly misrepresenting or misunderstanding DLC development, means a lot of viewers for TB and a lot of potential ad revenue. Getting your listenership riled up is the best way to bring in the crowds of the more gullible sorts at times.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

LumpOfCole wrote...

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

It it was posted, I missed it, but TB strikes again.

www.youtube.com/watch

He makes some very good and very interesting points... especially on the subject that if 'From Ashes' was really started and finished in a month is it really worth the $10 price.

For all of my displeasure about what EA and Bioware are doing though, I don't actually support his boycott simply because it wont work... it already hasn't. I think his mind and intentions are well and truly in the right place but it's doomed to fail. I only need to read the majority of the posts here to see that.

Personally, I hope that companies like EA and Activision take this kind of thing even further, to the point of being absolutely ridiculous. That's really the only way that everyone will start fighting back and Publishers will be forced to stop this nonsense.

I agree with most of what he said , but I have a  issue with some of it.No one should be going around demonizing someone/me for stiill buying the game and not cancelling my pre-order(which he mentioned no one shouldn't be doing this).My other issue is he's still saying mis-information that the dlc was created and done within the span of a month(with all the testing theirs no way you could do this).Dlc  must be concepted/basic work ahead of time which is why it might have been in the leak or demo , but they said it has taken them from late January to now  completly finsh but work on the dlc itself happened further back in development.

Bottom line is most of what I heard I agreed with , but I still think the calling for a boycott/mis-information on the dlc process is mis-leading and inciting anger due to his viewers.I just think the indivdual has a right to decide not to buy  vs someone giving mis-information out to the public for them to riot(and not fully understanding the process).

Unfortunately, inciting anger, even unrationalized anger by clearly misrepresenting or misunderstanding DLC development, means a lot of viewers for TB and a lot of potential ad revenue. Getting your listenership riled up is the best way to bring in the crowds of the more gullible sorts at times.

I know , it's what is done in politics and it's what he's doing playing to his base.But it doesn't make it right , but oh well I'll be enjoying my game.Others will be protesting/boycotting which is also fine.

[Reptilian Rob]

CommanderCoffee wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

You guys are STILL ****ing about this!?

My god, it's like an unholy storm of nerd rage permeating the calm. Give it a rest and just play some video games, I don't understand what's so hard about that.

IT'S A PROTHEAN

NO WAY!?

I BETTER **** TWICE AS MUCH!

[LumpOfCole]

Let's be fair. It could be the Philip J Fry of Protheans; just a regular bumbling Prothean that got frozen delivering space pizza.

[CommanderCoffee]

LumpOfCole wrote...

Let's be fair. It could be the Philip J Fry of Protheans; just a regular bumbling Prothean that got frozen delivering space pizza.

Wait a minute. He's got a Rasta accent. [God, that was a joke, you guys.]

MAYBE HE'S THE BIGGEST STONER OF ALL THE PROTHEANS.

Modifié par CommanderCoffee, 29 février 2012 - 05:47 .

[frankopan]

Just cancelled my preorder eventhough I'm a big fan of ME. I don't find day one DLC other than cosmetic items or pets acceptable. I play ToR and The Witcher 2 enhanced edition is coming soon. Plenty of fish in the sea.

Modifié par frankopan, 29 février 2012 - 08:02 .

[DJBare]

Aulis Vaara wrote...

So you think a Prothean has no vital meaning to the Mass Effect story? Really?

No it does not, because the story has "moved on"; the prothean is vital to the lore but NOT the story, the protheans had their day, twice in fact, the first was losing to the reapers, the second was being able to send a message to warn others, a message which Shepard recieved, onward moves the story.

[Evercrow]

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

When I read through the last 3 pages I think to myself: "Same ****e, different people". This has all been discussed, you are not adding anything here. It's just the same core people who complain and the rest is indifferent to it, get over it, move on, lock the thread and release the game tomorrow!

And release "From Ashes" on march 6. Problem  solved

[addiction21]

BaronIveagh wrote...

It it was posted, I missed it, but TB strikes again.

www.youtube.com/watch

Did not even make it thru the intro before I was off downloading Tribes Ascend.

[Reptilian Rob]

addiction21 wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

It it was posted, I missed it, but TB strikes again.

www.youtube.com/watch

Did not even make it thru the intro before I was off downloading Tribes Ascend.

QFT

[Reptilian Rob]

frankopan wrote...

Just cancelled my preorder eventhough I'm a big fan of ME. I don't find day one DLC other than cosmetic items or pets acceptable. I play ToR and The Witcher 2 enhanced edition is coming soon. Plenty of fish in the sea.

Whoa, watch out guys, we have a real freedom fighter here!

[nightcobra]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

frankopan wrote...

Just cancelled my preorder eventhough I'm a big fan of ME. I don't find day one DLC other than cosmetic items or pets acceptable. I play ToR and The Witcher 2 enhanced edition is coming soon. Plenty of fish in the sea.

Whoa, watch out guys, we have a real freedom fighter here!

that's his prerrogative, no need to antagonize/mock someone for doing something he/she believes in.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

frankopan wrote...

Just cancelled my preorder eventhough I'm a big fan of ME. I don't find day one DLC other than cosmetic items or pets acceptable. I play ToR and The Witcher 2 enhanced edition is coming soon. Plenty of fish in the sea.

Whoa, watch out guys, we have a real freedom fighter here!

that's his prerrogative, no need to antagonize/mock someone for doing something he/she believes in.

If he/she did it at all , but if Mr./Ms.F did it at least he/she is sticking to what they said.

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 29 février 2012 - 08:58 .

[Renegade133]

meh you guys had plenty of time to **** and moan about this DLC many months

[nirwin9]

I love the series, but after a bit of consideration, I have just cancelled my pre-order.

I will play the game eventually, but I won't pay full price for it when I'd also have to pay a high price for this DLC (U.K. customers will almost certainly pay more than their U.S. counterparts). It's a shame because now I won't get the pre-order N7 weapons pack bonus, but From Ashes interests me much more.

I'll just spend the time getting some more playthroughs of 1 & 2 ready, while waiting for the price of admission to drop.

I don't suppose Bioware will back down before launch now, so I just hope this action hurts release sales figures enough so that this practice seems less appealing in the future.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Renegade133 wrote...

meh you guys had plenty of time to **** and moan about this DLC many months

That's the way I see it , now heading offline.Begining another day with another day down , can't wait until launch day arrives.

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 29 février 2012 - 09:01 .

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

nirwin9 wrote...

I love the series, but after a bit of consideration, I have just cancelled my pre-order.

I will play the game eventually, but I won't pay full price for it when I'd also have to pay a high price for this DLC (U.K. customers will almost certainly pay more than their U.S. counterparts). It's a shame because now I won't get the pre-order N7 weapons pack bonus, but From Ashes interests me much more.

I'll just spend the time getting some more playthroughs of 1 & 2 ready, while waiting for the price of admission to drop.

I don't suppose Bioware will back down before launch now, so I just hope this action hurts release sales figures enough so that this practice seems less appealing in the future.

I support your right to the decision , even though I doubt Bioware/EA will change their mind.At least your being reasonable and came to your own conclusion about what's best for you as a customer.:)Now I'm gone!

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 29 février 2012 - 09:05 .

[NitrAce]

addiction21 wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

It it was posted, I missed it, but TB strikes again.

www.youtube.com/watch

Did not even make it thru the intro before I was off downloading Tribes Ascend.

I sat through all of it, it's very well thought out and worth the listen. I find myself agreeing with him on a lot. Simply because I've been ticked off by things like pre-order exclusvies, platform exclusives and what have yous, this just seems like another slap to the face. I was always going to buy the CE of Mass Effect, there was no question about that, but I'll be damned if I ever think charging the standard edition buyers for this DLC was actually a good move. It should have been free for all new copies regardless of the edition people buy, just like Zaeed. It's like the person in the video said, does EA and in turn Bioware really think their consumers are this worthless that they can be exploited like this?

Modifié par NitrAce, 29 février 2012 - 09:11 .

[MissOuJ]

CommanderCoffee wrote...

Wait a minute. He's got a Rasta accent.

I thought he had a vaguely African accent? Granted, I'm mostly familiar with the US/UK/Commonwealth accents, but that doesn't really sound Jamaican accent to me...

[Acidrain92]

MissOuJ wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

Wait a minute. He's got a Rasta accent.

I thought he had a vaguely African accent? Granted, I'm mostly familiar with the US/UK/Commonwealth accents, but that doesn't really sound Jamaican accent to me...

Its an African accent. People who keep sayings its Jamaican really need to get out of their houses more often >.>"

[MissOuJ]

NitrAce wrote...

I sat through all of it, it's very well thought out and worth the listen. I find myself agreeing with him on a lot. Simply because I've been ticked off by things like pre-order exclusvies, platform exclusives and what have yous, this just seems like another slap to the face. I was always going to buy the CE of Mass Effect, there was no question about that, but I'll be damned if I ever think charging the standard edition buyers for this DLC was actually a good move. It should have been free for all new copies regardless of the edition people buy, just like Zaeed. It's like the person in the video said, does EA and in turn Bioware really think their consumers are this worthless that they can be exploited like this?

Full multiplayer is only accessible through the online pass that comes with every new game, so that's the "Zaeed" of ME3, ie. they already have a new buyer incentive in place.

Pre-order exclusives, new guyer incentives, and Day-1 DLC exist because of the huge used games market. EA/BioWare don't see one cent you pay for a used game - that's pure profit for retailers - so they need another way of making money out of preowned games.

I'm getting so sick and tired of this conversation. I just recently watched (part of) the review of Kindoms of Amalur: Reconing by AngryJoe and pretty much the very first thing he did was chew the game up for the audacity of having an online pass and new buyer incentive (free). And his exact words were "Stop your was against used games, EA!" and I was like, why should they? It costs them ridiculous amount of money that they (and the developers) have rightfully earned.

I'm not saying we (as consumers) should be taking the hit for this, but let's face it - we could do something about it.

[nightcobra]

MissOuJ wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

Wait a minute. He's got a Rasta accent.

I thought he had a vaguely African accent? Granted, I'm mostly familiar with the US/UK/Commonwealth accents, but that doesn't really sound Jamaican accent to me...

he sounds like a few people i knew from Luanda, angola. so yeah definitely african rather than jamaican.
it's not bad though i can safely say that no one was expecting that kind voice.

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 29 février 2012 - 09:36 .

[DarthSliver]

Now out of all the people who say they will or did cancel their preorder, I wonder if they actually did or just telling us they did to try and start something.

[nightcobra]

DarthSliver wrote...

Now out of all the people who say they will or did cancel their preorder, I wonder if they actually did or just telling us they did to try and start something.

either some CE copies were left over (doubtful), or some people actually stuck to their guns seeing as a number of them have been popping up as available again.

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 29 février 2012 - 09:44 .

[MissOuJ]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

he sounds like a few people i knew from Luanda, angola. so yeah definitely african rather than jamaican.
it's not bad though i can safely say that no one was expecting that kind voice.

I don't know, kinda like it! Granted, I was half-expecting a generic Midwestern accent, but I was pleasantly surprised. I'd love all different races had different accents... but I concurr, I was deffinitedly surprised, but at the same time I have a feeling his voice is going to grow on me.