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[Xellana]

Beard_of_Bees wrote...

^ Lol, that is true!

Maybe I am slightly over-reacting but this, combined with several other things (origin and spoilers especially), makes me feel like BW are pushing as far as they can. It is like they broke into my house, and ate my cereal. And then took a dump in the bowl.

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[SimonTheFrog]

Opinions based on insuficient information are not worth having. Or posting somewhere, of course.

Still, I think it's good to have some bad publicity for overprized stuff that replaces free DLC's (or patches, doesn anyone remember these?) nowadays.

EA and consequently BW are not doing a good job in making players happy. They should realize that people are ACTUALLY not happy. And someone with the attention like tb is a good advocate.
Even if he gets a couple of minor facts wrong.
That doesn't make his point invalid.

[XxKradosxX]

total biscuit can suck a total dick hes just but hurt cause he didn't get his CE edition in time.

[wepeel_]

AlanC9 wrote...

wepeel_ wrote...

And I don't see things as unimportant just because they aren't essential to the completion of the game. Comparing with ME2, what Shepard needs to know or do to follow the central story is relatively little. As stated, you could remove most of the missions and most of the conversations in the game and still complete it, though I think it would feel rather empty.

You keep telling me what doesn't count as "important, " not what does count as "important." Where are you drawing the line between "important" and merely "interesting"?

Well, generally I would non-exclusively say that if it contains hitherto unknown information that can be seen as relatively relevant to the ME universe, I consider it important. "Relatively relevant" is highly individual of course, but the sudden appearance of a prothean and all the possible consequences coming with it sure makes that cut for me. That is also why it rubs me the wrong way when, as an earlier poster mentioned, BioWare downplays the DLC as optional, claiming that it doesn't take away from the completeness of the retail game. "We have this much-fanfared race that was thought extinct/changed beyond recognition for 50k years, but it turns out at least one member is miraculously still alive!!! ..but yeah, you don't really have to care about that little side-note or anything."

It seems to leave two main outcomes:

1. The DLC contains at least a bit of good info on the protheans, carrying with it a potential to revolutionize the ME lore (if one prothean survived, maybe there are more of them, etc), which would, given that it was ready upon launch, mark the game as incomplete without it in my book.

2. The DLC contains a prothean serving only as an extra gun, with no meaningful exposition or information contributing to the current lore, rendering it truly optional and leaving the retail game fairly complete without it. This would make the BW claim mostly true, but leave the DLC as a wasted opportunity and seemingly pretty lame publicity stunt.

[GuyIncognito21]

XxKradosxX wrote...

total biscuit can suck a total dick hes just but hurt cause he didn't get his CE edition in time.

Considering he can get the DLC for half the price of upgrading to the CE, that criticism doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  Basically you're accusing him of complaining because he has to pay 10 pounds instead of 20.  Huh?

And, for what it's worth, the Brits have even more to complain about than we do, because 10/20 pounds is a lot more than 10/20 dollars.

[Balrogen4]

XxKradosxX wrote...

total biscuit can suck a total dick hes just but hurt cause he didn't get his CE edition in time.

PC master race doesn't need CE edition, we got Digital Deluxe which is unlimited and contains the same in-game content as CE.

[ZX12r Ninja]

Balrogen4 wrote...

Writing a script is not easy, they have to consider every plotpoint from the previous games and all the potential outcomes. I have not read the leaked  script released 9 months ago because I want to enjoy ME3 to the fullest but those that have can all attest that the prothean squadmember was in it from the start and had a somewhat major role.

Bioware are not saints but they're not evil either, the true story behind From Ashes DLC is not known. BW fanatics take everything BW says to heart and BW haters think it was cut intentional to maximize profits from loyal fans whom they know will buy it because it's a freaking Prothean (It doesn't ****ing matter if he doesn't have a major role, He's a freaking Prothean, the most mysterious known alien race (except for reapers) which have all had major roles in all of the games)

I personally think it's a little bit of both, Either they were not satisfied with his implementation as a major character (Or had problems implementing him) and thus made him a supporting character or they just didn't have enough time to fully implement him.

Regarding your criticism of TB, It's fair that to say that he's not always completely informed regarding his opinions but that's what they're, opinions, He's always said that you should not take everything he says as facts but as his opinions, He has taken down videos in the past when they contained misinformed opinions or statements, He has also repeteadly stated that he does not and infact can not read all of the emails sent to him, if by some chance he read your email then you problably just had a different opinion or did not link to any sources supporting your arguements.

That's rather odd, you say he posts his opinion online without any fact checking or consideration but when I send him a mail with my point of view I'm asked to provide sources and links? Bullocks!

The point of the script being that it does not require much resources,
planning or coordination. It's just a team locked up in a room who write
these things down on paper, end of story. Most of the work is in
production.

You hit the nail right on the head when you siad Bioware are not saints nor devils. That is true to any company in the bussiness, they're there to make a profit end of story. A company can rip you off only once, just like George W. Bush once said: "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again", no truer words have ever been uttered. The same can be found in the MW2 example TB gave and the example I gave. If you feel you are getting ripped of, if you feel you're not getting your moneys worth or if you feel it's a scam THEN JUST DON'T BUY IT!

Didn't like MW2 for reasons explained, didn't buy MW3 or Black Ops. Do I think lesser of people who did buy MW3 or Black Ops? No! Do I think the industry is lesser because of MW3 and Black Ops? No! Am I trying to justify piracy because of MW3 and Black Ops? No! Do I go around comlaining to people about MW3 and Black Ops? No! Do I think lesser of the media and gaming related news outlets for not properly reviewing MW2 and telling me about it's problems? HELL YES!

[XxKradosxX]

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...

total biscuit can suck a total dick hes just but hurt cause he didn't get his CE edition in time.

Considering he can get the DLC for half the price of upgrading to the CE, that criticism doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  Basically you're accusing him of complaining because he has to pay 10 pounds instead of 20.  Huh?

And, for what it's worth, the Brits have even more to complain about than we do, because 10/20 pounds is a lot more than 10/20 dollars.

 well **** sucks for them, like i said he's buthurt, pretty much 90% of the people on this post are buthurt cause they waited to long to get ce and now that they cant and they are finding out that the secret charecter is a prothean, and now they areall ****ing and whining cause they took to long to preorder when a game like ME3 comes out and they say the ce is very limited then you better get your assmoving if you want it. cause if you snooze you lose.

[XxKradosxX]

Balrogen4 wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...

total biscuit can suck a total dick hes just but hurt cause he didn't get his CE edition in time.

PC master race doesn't need CE edition, we got Digital Deluxe which is unlimited and contains the same in-game content as CE.

good for you:D

[GuyIncognito21]

XxKradosxX wrote...
 well **** sucks for them, like i said he's buthurt, pretty much 90% of the people on this post are buthurt cause they waited to long to get ce and now that they cant and they are finding out that the secret charecter is a prothean, and now they areall ****ing and whining cause they took to long to preorder when a game like ME3 comes out and they say the ce is very limited then you better get your assmoving if you want it. cause if you snooze you lose.

Again, that doesn't make any sense.  If people are "butthurt" about the nature of the "exclusive" content, why would they want the $20 CE instead of the $10 DLC?

[Xellana]

XxKradosxX wrote...

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...

total biscuit can suck a total dick hes just but hurt cause he didn't get his CE edition in time.

Considering he can get the DLC for half the price of upgrading to the CE, that criticism doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  Basically you're accusing him of complaining because he has to pay 10 pounds instead of 20.  Huh?

And, for what it's worth, the Brits have even more to complain about than we do, because 10/20 pounds is a lot more than 10/20 dollars.

 well **** sucks for them, like i said he's buthurt, pretty much 90% of the people on this post are buthurt cause they waited to long to get ce and now that they cant and they are finding out that the secret charecter is a prothean, and now they areall ****ing and whining cause they took to long to preorder when a game like ME3 comes out and they say the ce is very limited then you better get your assmoving if you want it. cause if you snooze you lose.

that doesn´t make any sense. How would he be feel any better if he preordered the CE?? He would have paid even more than SE+DLC then.

[miniy2j]

H1natachan wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...



That actually makes a lot of sense (regarding Bioware exploitation and the sale of this DLC...)

That said, like I stated before... ME3 won't be the game Bioware feels the pain from... it'll be their next titles. They've most certainly lost some clout from this... but not enough to stop most fans from finishing out the trilogy.

It most certainly does make a lot of sense, and i fear that M.E.3 will get milked so hard it'll be rediculous. Line must be drawn or it'll never end.

I'm sorry this has been getting on my nerves, especially with people who call us biodrones, or silly things like that. I'm not saying the poster did, I'm just annoyed that people are quoting this dude as the source of their information and being like ooh he has a valid point. He doesn't, he's a dude with an opinion, a misleading one based on...absolutely no facts.

Here's a fact this dlc was created as extra content and promoted as a deal with the CE edition, something which this guy seems to fail to mention well maybe he did mention it, I couldn't get over his whining. Yes it's whining, the CE was announced 9 months ago. I decided 5 months ago I was going to get it but I couldn't do pre-orders until much closer to the launch date. I ordered my CE two weeks ago, walked into to Gametop and told the guy that I wanted the CE copy of ME3. Paid for it in full, and I do understand that it was sold out in some places, but I live in a country where the norm for gaming seems to be on consoles rather than the PC. Something I was well aware of hence why I waited so long.

Here is a fact, I already paid for my Ashes DLC I paid 20-25 euro for extra content. Let me repeat that EXTRA CONTENT. If anyone should be entitled to the Ashes DLC it is everyone who bought a copy of the CE edition. Which is why you find many CE people incredibly unsympathetic with the plight of the SE people who are whining about the 10 dollar price tag, and how it's not fair. 

Guess what you can play ME2 without having Zaeed and Kasumi, and still beat the game and get the perfect ending. That is how I played Mass effect 2, the very first time.  Same with DAII, you don't need Sebastian to beat the game. Hell I don't even know why Sebastian is in the game to begin with, he does absolutely nothing to further the storyline. He's just there you get an extra 20 minutes to an hour worth of play with him there. Hell you can choose not to recruit him at all. So for everyone saying that Bioware is carving out the game, point to me in any of their previous practices where they have done it.

And by point to me, I mean show me where the DLC (extra squadmates) that they gave was so critical to the game, where there was no possible way of getting all possible endings.Do you honestly think that bioware would destroy it's reputation more so than the debacle that was DAII, by seriously not sending us a complete game standard edition? 

If what you're complaining about is empty codex registries, shut up buy the DLC and stop whining about how bioware is fleecing you. It's a prothean soldier, not a god damn switch that makes the reapers go boom. You can argue that the price might not be worth it, and if that is your point feel free not to buy it, it's extra content after all and pick it up on sale.  But you can not make an argument that says Bioware is carving out the game and not selling  you a complete game.

This dude does not work for Bioware, or EA, he heard some rumors on the net he found out you get a Prothean and he freaked out because of he now has to pay for day 1 dlc for a "complete" game expereince. If it makes you feel better wait a month or two then buy the dlc and have a "complete" game experience.

Oh and someone mentioned earlier about how the customers would get confused about the fact that there is extra content available from day one. Any casual gamer knows the difference between Collecters editions and Standard editions, many of them won't actually care that they have an opportunity to buy something the CE people already paid for. They also don't expect to get it for free, they'll be pleasently surprised if they do, but they don't expect it for free.

[XxKradosxX]

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...
 well **** sucks for them, like i said he's buthurt, pretty much 90% of the people on this post are buthurt cause they waited to long to get ce and now that they cant and they are finding out that the secret charecter is a prothean, and now they areall ****ing and whining cause they took to long to preorder when a game like ME3 comes out and they say the ce is very limited then you better get your assmoving if you want it. cause if you snooze you lose.

Again, that doesn't make any sense.  If people are "butthurt" about the nature of the "exclusive" content, why would they want the $20 CE instead of the $10 DLC?

cause they missed the opportunity to get the ce thats why they are buthurt now all you buthurt kids are trying to boycot and shiet and your saying you want the dlc for free with SE because you feel like your getting ripped off. however in fact if you did get the dlc for free bioware would be getting ripped off because they spent two months making it after the full game was finished. so its not gonna change and the dlc will not become free for you buthurt people out there, Now let me ask you something would, you work at your job for free for 2 months?! of course you wouldnt, you want money! and so does bioware its there right to charge you for the product they created. everything in this world revolves around money if you dont have it your ****ed. if you got it spend it wisely.

[Balrogen4]

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

That's rather odd, you say he posts his opinion online without any fact checking or consideration but when I send him a mail with my point of view I'm asked to provide sources and links? Bullocks!

The point of the script being that it does not require much resources,
planning or coordination. It's just a team locked up in a room who write
these things down on paper, end of story. Most of the work is in
production.

You hit the nail right on the head when you siad Bioware are not saints nor devils. That is true to any company in the bussiness, they're there to make a profit end of story. A company can rip you off only once, just like George W. Bush once said: "fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again", no truer words have ever been uttered. The same can be found in the MW2 example TB gave and the example I gave. If you feel you are getting ripped of, if you feel you're not getting your moneys worth or if you feel it's a scam THEN JUST DON'T BUY IT!

Didn't like MW2 for reasons explained, didn't buy MW3 or Black Ops. Do I think lesser of people who did buy MW3 or Black Ops? No! Do I think the industry is lesser because of MW3 and Black Ops? No! Am I trying to justify piracy because of MW3 and Black Ops? No! Do I go around comlaining to people about MW3 and Black Ops? No! Do I think lesser of the media and gaming related news outlets for not properly reviewing MW2 and telling me about it's problems? HELL YES!

Glad we agree on BW not being saints nor Evil.
However I think you misunderstood the part where TB was comparing Boycotts regarding PC versions of Call of Duty to Mass Effect 3, People tried to boycott MW2 because there were no Dedicated Server and absolutely no anti hacking efforts from Activision/Infinity Ward, you on the other hand doesn't seem to enjoy CoD as a game.

That's rather odd, you say he posts his opinion online without any fact checking or consideration 

 
That's not what I said and you either knowingly or your biased brain read it that way (Yes bias makes us read things in a different light than they were intended, I do it aswell) When TB is invested into an issue personally he almost never gets the facts wrong however when he's asked about his opinion on an issue he does not know much about he usually reads about it first from several sources and sometimes he gets false information.

but when I send him a mail with my point of view I'm asked to provide sources and links? Bullocks! 

 
You realize that as of right now TB has 632 982 subscribers, Do you really think he has the time to read and/or adress everything people email him? He has in the past made corrections to videos and/or had follow up videos when people have provided sources proving him wrong, I'm sorry if I sound like a blatant fan boy but seriously, he's not going to care about a random person disagreeing with him about an issue.

[Hardwired]

XxKradosxX wrote...

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...
 well **** sucks for them, like i said he's buthurt, pretty much 90% of the people on this post are buthurt cause they waited to long to get ce and now that they cant and they are finding out that the secret charecter is a prothean, and now they areall ****ing and whining cause they took to long to preorder when a game like ME3 comes out and they say the ce is very limited then you better get your assmoving if you want it. cause if you snooze you lose.

Again, that doesn't make any sense.  If people are "butthurt" about the nature of the "exclusive" content, why would they want the $20 CE instead of the $10 DLC?

cause they missed the opportunity to get the ce thats why they are buthurt now all you buthurt kids are trying to boycot and shiet and your saying you want the dlc for free with SE because you feel like your getting ripped off. however in fact if you did get the dlc for free bioware would be getting ripped off because they spent two months making it after the full game was finished. so its not gonna change and the dlc will not become free for you buthurt people out there, Now let me ask you something would, you work at your job for free for 2 months?! of course you wouldnt, you want money! and so does bioware its there right to charge you for the product they created. everything in this world revolves around money if you dont have it your ****ed. if you got it spend it wisely.

I would ignore this one.

He is obviously trolling. Nobody is this thick.

[Daywalker315]

wepeel_ wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

wepeel_ wrote...

And I don't see things as unimportant just because they aren't essential to the completion of the game. Comparing with ME2, what Shepard needs to know or do to follow the central story is relatively little. As stated, you could remove most of the missions and most of the conversations in the game and still complete it, though I think it would feel rather empty.

You keep telling me what doesn't count as "important, " not what does count as "important." Where are you drawing the line between "important" and merely "interesting"?

Well, generally I would non-exclusively say that if it contains hitherto unknown information that can be seen as relatively relevant to the ME universe, I consider it important. "Relatively relevant" is highly individual of course, but the sudden appearance of a prothean and all the possible consequences coming with it sure makes that cut for me. That is also why it rubs me the wrong way when, as an earlier poster mentioned, BioWare downplays the DLC as optional, claiming that it doesn't take away from the completeness of the retail game. "We have this much-fanfared race that was thought extinct/changed beyond recognition for 50k years, but it turns out at least one member is miraculously still alive!!! ..but yeah, you don't really have to care about that little side-note or anything."

It seems to leave two main outcomes:

1. The DLC contains at least a bit of good info on the protheans, carrying with it a potential to revolutionize the ME lore (if one prothean survived, maybe there are more of them, etc), which would, given that it was ready upon launch, mark the game as incomplete without it in my book.

2. The DLC contains a prothean serving only as an extra gun, with no meaningful exposition or information contributing to the current lore, rendering it truly optional and leaving the retail game fairly complete without it. This would make the BW claim mostly true, but leave the DLC as a wasted opportunity and seemingly pretty lame publicity stunt.

Or perhaps a 3rd option in which you actually learn the important lore regarding the Protheans through other means in the game (this has already *almost* been said by Jessica Merizan in the Reddit live chat) and the DLC is just a Prothean serving as an extra gun and some new banter with the rest of the crew. Thus leaving BioWare with a complete game and the opportunity for an additional yet non-essential squad mate should you deem it worth your $10. Not evil. Not chopped from the game and sold separately. Just extra.

[O3Hundred]

XxKradosxX wrote...

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...
 well **** sucks for them, like i said he's buthurt, pretty much 90% of the people on this post are buthurt cause they waited to long to get ce and now that they cant and they are finding out that the secret charecter is a prothean, and now they areall ****ing and whining cause they took to long to preorder when a game like ME3 comes out and they say the ce is very limited then you better get your assmoving if you want it. cause if you snooze you lose.

Again, that doesn't make any sense.  If people are "butthurt" about the nature of the "exclusive" content, why would they want the $20 CE instead of the $10 DLC?

cause they missed the opportunity to get the ce thats why they are buthurt now all you buthurt kids are trying to boycot and shiet and your saying you want the dlc for free with SE because you feel like your getting ripped off. however in fact if you did get the dlc for free bioware would be getting ripped off because they spent two months making it after the full game was finished. so its not gonna change and the dlc will not become free for you buthurt people out there, Now let me ask you something would, you work at your job for free for 2 months?! of course you wouldnt, you want money! and so does bioware its there right to charge you for the product they created. everything in this world revolves around money if you dont have it your ****ed. if you got it spend it wisely.

1. In your place, I would seriously go back to school and take English classes again. Unless you are still in middle school

2.You are not making any valid points, other than dismissing the fact that there are millions of people that think, that this move from BioWare was bad.

3.Not everyone is rich, and not everyone can afford to buy stuff. If your parents are wealthy, and buy games for you, that's great. But some people work their asses off to earn even a bit. So please, "grown-up-all-knowing-person", get off these forums.

[XxKradosxX]

Hardwired wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...
 well **** sucks for them, like i said he's buthurt, pretty much 90% of the people on this post are buthurt cause they waited to long to get ce and now that they cant and they are finding out that the secret charecter is a prothean, and now they areall ****ing and whining cause they took to long to preorder when a game like ME3 comes out and they say the ce is very limited then you better get your assmoving if you want it. cause if you snooze you lose.

Again, that doesn't make any sense.  If people are "butthurt" about the nature of the "exclusive" content, why would they want the $20 CE instead of the $10 DLC?

cause they missed the opportunity to get the ce thats why they are buthurt now all you buthurt kids are trying to boycot and shiet and your saying you want the dlc for free with SE because you feel like your getting ripped off. however in fact if you did get the dlc for free bioware would be getting ripped off because they spent two months making it after the full game was finished. so its not gonna change and the dlc will not become free for you buthurt people out there, Now let me ask you something would, you work at your job for free for 2 months?! of course you wouldnt, you want money! and so does bioware its there right to charge you for the product they created. everything in this world revolves around money if you dont have it your ****ed. if you got it spend it wisely.

I would ignore this one.

He is obviously trolling. Nobody is this thick.

 who cares what you would ignore your buthurt too. im one of the CE paople who has no sympathy for all of you complaining boycotting ****gots, simple enoung if you dont like the price dont get it. im aware that im being very blunt but you guys just have to realize that your not getting the dlc for free:innocent:

[O3Hundred]

Hardwired wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...
 well **** sucks for them, like i said he's buthurt, pretty much 90% of the people on this post are buthurt cause they waited to long to get ce and now that they cant and they are finding out that the secret charecter is a prothean, and now they areall ****ing and whining cause they took to long to preorder when a game like ME3 comes out and they say the ce is very limited then you better get your assmoving if you want it. cause if you snooze you lose.

Again, that doesn't make any sense.  If people are "butthurt" about the nature of the "exclusive" content, why would they want the $20 CE instead of the $10 DLC?

cause they missed the opportunity to get the ce thats why they are buthurt now all you buthurt kids are trying to boycot and shiet and your saying you want the dlc for free with SE because you feel like your getting ripped off. however in fact if you did get the dlc for free bioware would be getting ripped off because they spent two months making it after the full game was finished. so its not gonna change and the dlc will not become free for you buthurt people out there, Now let me ask you something would, you work at your job for free for 2 months?! of course you wouldnt, you want money! and so does bioware its there right to charge you for the product they created. everything in this world revolves around money if you dont have it your ****ed. if you got it spend it wisely.

I would ignore this one.

He is obviously trolling. Nobody is this thick.

+1.

[XxKradosxX]

O3Hundred wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...
 well **** sucks for them, like i said he's buthurt, pretty much 90% of the people on this post are buthurt cause they waited to long to get ce and now that they cant and they are finding out that the secret charecter is a prothean, and now they areall ****ing and whining cause they took to long to preorder when a game like ME3 comes out and they say the ce is very limited then you better get your assmoving if you want it. cause if you snooze you lose.

Again, that doesn't make any sense.  If people are "butthurt" about the nature of the "exclusive" content, why would they want the $20 CE instead of the $10 DLC?

cause they missed the opportunity to get the ce thats why they are buthurt now all you buthurt kids are trying to boycot and shiet and your saying you want the dlc for free with SE because you feel like your getting ripped off. however in fact if you did get the dlc for free bioware would be getting ripped off because they spent two months making it after the full game was finished. so its not gonna change and the dlc will not become free for you buthurt people out there, Now let me ask you something would, you work at your job for free for 2 months?! of course you wouldnt, you want money! and so does bioware its there right to charge you for the product they created. everything in this world revolves around money if you dont have it your ****ed. if you got it spend it wisely.

1. In your place, I would seriously go back to school and take English classes again. Unless you are still in middle school

2.You are not making any valid points, other than dismissing the fact that there are millions of people that think, that this move from BioWare was bad.

3.Not everyone is rich, and not everyone can afford to buy stuff. If your parents are wealthy, and buy games for you, that's great. But some people work their asses off to earn even a bit. So please, "grown-up-all-knowing-person", get off these forums.

actually sir ill have you know that i work 10 hours a day at a mechanic shop and i work pretty damn hard for my money and ill spend it how i see fit and no i graduated and i can type perfectly fine if i choose to but i type very fast and when im talking to people like you i really dont care how you think im younger cause i am making tiny gramatical errors

[O3Hundred]

XxKradosxX wrote...

O3Hundred wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...
 well **** sucks for them, like i said he's buthurt, pretty much 90% of the people on this post are buthurt cause they waited to long to get ce and now that they cant and they are finding out that the secret charecter is a prothean, and now they areall ****ing and whining cause they took to long to preorder when a game like ME3 comes out and they say the ce is very limited then you better get your assmoving if you want it. cause if you snooze you lose.

Again, that doesn't make any sense.  If people are "butthurt" about the nature of the "exclusive" content, why would they want the $20 CE instead of the $10 DLC?

cause they missed the opportunity to get the ce thats why they are buthurt now all you buthurt kids are trying to boycot and shiet and your saying you want the dlc for free with SE because you feel like your getting ripped off. however in fact if you did get the dlc for free bioware would be getting ripped off because they spent two months making it after the full game was finished. so its not gonna change and the dlc will not become free for you buthurt people out there, Now let me ask you something would, you work at your job for free for 2 months?! of course you wouldnt, you want money! and so does bioware its there right to charge you for the product they created. everything in this world revolves around money if you dont have it your ****ed. if you got it spend it wisely.

1. In your place, I would seriously go back to school and take English classes again. Unless you are still in middle school

2.You are not making any valid points, other than dismissing the fact that there are millions of people that think, that this move from BioWare was bad.

3.Not everyone is rich, and not everyone can afford to buy stuff. If your parents are wealthy, and buy games for you, that's great. But some people work their asses off to earn even a bit. So please, "grown-up-all-knowing-person", get off these forums.

actually sir ill have you know that i work 10 hours a day at a mechanic shop and i work pretty damn hard for my money and ill spend it how i see fit and no i graduated and i can type perfectly fine if i choose to but i type very fast and when im talking to people like you i really dont care how you think im younger cause i am making tiny gramatical errors

Well, that's good to know. Take your time man, and write the words out, because it makes you seriously look like a complete moron. Also, these people are not complaining about the CE. Actually I don't care about the CE, what I care about is the Prothean, that is very important to the backstory of the game. The Protheans and Reapers go hand in hand, in the previous 2 ME games. Without them, we would have a totally different story. What we're complaining about is, that we should already have the DLC for free. Why? Because it is not right for Day 1 DLC in my opinion. Day 1 release should mean that we get a COMPLETE PACKAGE.

[LinksOcarina]

XxKradosxX wrote...

 who cares what you would ignore your buthurt too. im one of the CE paople who has no sympathy for all of you complaining boycotting ****gots, simple enoung if you dont like the price dont get it. im aware that im being very blunt but you guys just have to realize that your not getting the dlc for free:innocent:

Dude shut the **** up before you get reported. I am getting the CE and I think you are not making sense.

Thank you.

[nirwin9]

XxKradosxX wrote...

cause they missed the opportunity to get the ce thats why they are buthurt now all you buthurt kids are trying to boycot and shiet and your saying you want the dlc for free with SE because you feel like your getting ripped off. however in fact if you did get the dlc for free bioware would be getting ripped off because they spent two months making it after the full game was finished. so its not gonna change and the dlc will not become free for you buthurt people out there, Now let me ask you something would, you work at your job for free for 2 months?! of course you wouldnt, you want money! and so does bioware its there right to charge you for the product they created. everything in this world revolves around money if you dont have it your ****ed. if you got it spend it wisely.

Wow, you really don't listen! Nobody here is complaining about missing out on ANYTHING that is exclusive to the CE. If we want the DLC we can get it, even cheaper than getting the CE.
Surely nobody but a kid would ever use the phrase "you buthurt [sic] kids", so please feel free to pick up this conversation in a few years after developing principles, and actually learning the value of money.

Also we'd be ripping them off getting it for free? Let's see, £30 game takes 23 months development, £10 DLC takes 2 months development (according to Bioware). So the full game cost £1.3/month to develop, and the dlc cost £5/month to develop, and the DLC allegedly also has little bearing on the story/universe/lore? Doesn't make much sense to me.

Oh, also, you may want to stop accusing people on the other side of the debate to you of being "butthurt", because that would kind of imply you are "buttpleasured".

Um, sorry, probably shouldn't feed the troll.

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nirwin9 wrote...

XxKradosxX wrote...

cause they missed the opportunity to get the ce thats why they are buthurt now all you buthurt kids are trying to boycot and shiet and your saying you want the dlc for free with SE because you feel like your getting ripped off. however in fact if you did get the dlc for free bioware would be getting ripped off because they spent two months making it after the full game was finished. so its not gonna change and the dlc will not become free for you buthurt people out there, Now let me ask you something would, you work at your job for free for 2 months?! of course you wouldnt, you want money! and so does bioware its there right to charge you for the product they created. everything in this world revolves around money if you dont have it your ****ed. if you got it spend it wisely.

Wow, you really don't listen! Nobody here is complaining about missing out on ANYTHING that is exclusive to the CE. If we want the DLC we can get it, even cheaper than getting the CE.
Surely nobody but a kid would ever use the phrase "you buthurt [sic] kids", so please feel free to pick up this conversation in a few years after developing principles, and actually learning the value of money.

Also we'd be ripping them off getting it for free? Let's see, £30 game takes 23 months development, £10 DLC takes 2 months development (according to Bioware). So the full game cost £1.3/month to develop, and the dlc cost £5/month to develop, and the DLC allegedly also has little bearing on the story/universe/lore? Doesn't make much sense to me.

Oh, also, you may want to stop accusing people on the other side of the debate to you of being "butthurt", because that would kind of imply you are "buttpleasured".

Um, sorry, probably shouldn't feed the troll.

Hahaha, I love you. Exactly.

[gigiduru]

XxKradosxX wrote...

actually sir ill have you know that i work 10 hours a day at a mechanic shop and i work pretty damn hard for my money and ill spend it how i see fit and no i graduated and i can type perfectly fine if i choose to but i type very fast and when im talking to people like you i really dont care how you think im younger cause i am making tiny gramatical errors

You are just a sad troll who can't give good arguments . When trying to make a point ( even one as poorly as yours ) try to use punctuation .