V1per7 wrote...
TK EL wrote...
If they made it free, I think I would be entitled to get $10 back from my CE or more stuff instead
no you're not. you pre order the CE without knowing of this "DLC"...
this was leaked and that is why you see this outcry.
you are not entitled to anything you dont even know....they could give you happy CE boys some extra costume.
a ****** shooting DLC gun perhaps?
Bluumberry wrote...
But they're already using that system.
You don't understand? MULTIPLAYER.
Xellana wrote...
Moonshadow_Dark wrote...
Xellana wrote...
Moonshadow_Dark wrote...
Why is everyone upset? Prothey brings nothing new to the game. What, do you expect him to show up with the perfect Reaper killing weapon? If it was perfect, why didn't they use it in the first place? Would he tell us some super awesome secret about the Reapers? We're going to kill them, who cares what kind of giant underpants they wear. Prothey is literally just a fan item. You don't need him. And if his Jamacian accent proves to be real, you won't want him in the first place. Get over this "I'm entitled to everything" syndrome and just be excited to see how your Shepard fares in the last chapter. Geez...
You obviously don´t care about the ME Story. And that´s totally okay with me.
What makes me really sad though is that it seems Bioware also doesn´t care about their story if they introduce a prothean that has no impact on this world whatsoever. The Hanar alone, who worship the protheans as gods, would be totally mind blown if there was actually a living prothean. It doesn´t matter if he has the perfect reaper killing weapon or if he is a totally unimportant douchebag.
He would still be extremely important to this universe.
I care about the story. You know who's story this is though? SHEPARD'S STORY. If the Mass Effect story was about the Protheans, we would have started out as one. He is not important unless he has something useful to bring to the fight. So does he have a Super Mega Reaper Buster 9000 in his inventory? No. Does he know of a secret underground cache of Prothean tech that can disable a Reaper from two galaxies away? No. Does he have compatible sexual organs that your Shepard can work with before the final battle? Maybe, but I think that falls under "intercourse with a minor aged civilization" law that prevents Prothey from doing that. So unless Bioware told you that NOT having Prothey means you will not have the best ending, it has no impact on your game, my game or even my friend Jim from Long Island's game. If you want to say "Hey I got as Prothean" buy the CE or wait until ME3: GotY edition drops. Otherwise, get over it.
If you say this story is only about shepard, then you obviously don´t care about the story
Moonshadow_Dark wrote...
AND there it is. The real reason why people have their undies in a bunch. Because TB told you to.
I swear, that man causes more internet riots than 4chan and Anonymous combined.
FYI: If you really want to boycott EA, it'd probably be more effective if you boycott ALL EA products. It doesn't prove a point that you don't buy Mass Effect 3 and then go to your closest Gamestop and ask about a Madden 2014 preorder.
Hippy then, I'm sure you have much more important things to do like giving to your favorite charity rather than hanging around here.loungeshep wrote...
Hippy. Get it right.
Imperium Alpha wrote...
Everything you stated isn't the truth though. Protheans didn't create Mass Relay, they aren't the real foundation of spacefaring, they didn't construct the Citadel, they didn't simply vanish. All that come from the Reapers. Protheans "might" only exist because they are the only one that could have explain why there is a citadel/mass relay and such in the galaxy. By this fact Protheans are overrated and should not be consider as high important. The most they did was give the next cycle a chance to fight back via a beacon and sabotage of keepers signal. < nice **** though you have to give them that.
Speaking for the silent majority is always so easy.Niemack Saarinen wrote...
Despite the fact that you ( yuoman) are on a majority of the pages making this whole thing out to be a majority of peoples sentiments when your basically a minority. Its like US politics, the minority scream and shout for entitlements trying to make themselves out to be the majority - when in reality the majority keep quiet and have already made their minds up and have nothing to say on the matter.
Michael Gamble wrote...
- The Collectors Edition has been advertised from the beginning as containing a bonus character/mission, but we were not at liberty to provide the details. The Prothean is optional content that is certainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of the CE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase). Mass Effect 3 is a complete – and a huge game - right out of the box.
Mike
Monochrome Wench wrote...
I think some people are missing the point that certification takes a very long time. You can not make any changes to the game during certification. However if you want you to be doing something during certification you can make DLC.
So what happens is this
1) Content is designed for main game
2) Decided that some content can not be finished and still keep release date
3) Least important/most separable content is decided not to be finished for inclusion on the disc
4) The removed content is finished during the main products certification/manufacturing
5) Its released Day 1 as DLC
So it was in the game originally, but was not finished as it makes more business sense not too finish it before gold if then can finish it after gold.
Of course it could have been in the game but would have just delayed the game further. Sure the fans wouldn't have cared, but the people in charge of financials do. The game is already late.
nickkcin11 wrote...
*snip*
That was a horrible book filled with multiple breaches of cannon and a slap in the face to everyone who cares about the ME universe. This is 10 or 15 dollars. They're not going to suddenly be like "Oh, you guys don't want to pay? Here it is for free!"
MissFish wrote...
You were all perfectly okay with the CE getting exclusive DLC, but when Bioware was kind enough to allow you to get it as well, you're all up in arms about it.
They could just as well not allow you to buy it, and keep it CE exclusive. I hope they take it down, because your all being ungrateful little idiots. This was developed for the CE, but when it can be downloaded for the SE, it's a bad marketing tactic?
Grow up. You guys are making me wish From Ashes was CE exclusive. You seemed fine with it before!
Takamori The Templar wrote...
Bluumberry wrote...
But they're already using that system.
You don't understand? MULTIPLAYER.
WAit wait
You are telling me that MP should be a DLC?
Damn man, got get yourself some treatment.
N7Infernox wrote...
Haha there won't be a ME4 (not for me at least...)rumbalumba wrote...
i hope to god these Bioware fanboys gets charged $90 for Dragon Age 3 or Mass Effect 4. please lord.
:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O
rumbalumba wrote...
i hope to god these Bioware fanboys gets charged $90 for Dragon Age 3 or Mass Effect 4. please lord.
TK EL wrote...
If they made it free, I think I would be entitled to get $10 back from my CE or more stuff instead
Nauks wrote...
Like him or not, he is right about a lot of things when it comes to companies acting like douches.Moonshadow_Dark wrote...
AND there it is. The real reason why people have their undies in a bunch. Because TB told you to.
I swear, that man causes more internet riots than 4chan and Anonymous combined.
Bluumberry wrote...
Takamori The Templar wrote...
Bluumberry wrote...
But they're already using that system.
You don't understand? MULTIPLAYER.
WAit wait
You are telling me that MP should be a DLC?
Damn man, got get yourself some treatment.
Maybe you need reading glasses to understand the point.
Just like we were given free day-1 DLC before, now we get free multiplayer instead.
DJBare wrote...
Hippy then, I'm sure you have much more important things to do like giving to your favorite charity rather than hanging around here.loungeshep wrote...
Hippy. Get it right.
Guest_Imperium Alpha_*
Farbautisonn wrote...
Imperium Alpha wrote...
Everything you stated isn't the truth though. Protheans didn't create Mass Relay, they aren't the real foundation of spacefaring, they didn't construct the Citadel, they didn't simply vanish. All that come from the Reapers. Protheans "might" only exist because they are the only one that could have explain why there is a citadel/mass relay and such in the galaxy. By this fact Protheans are overrated and should not be consider as high important. The most they did was give the next cycle a chance to fight back via a beacon and sabotage of keepers signal. < nice **** though you have to give them that.
Here is a novel word for you: Metagaming. And another; Illogical.
The ingame scientific community of the galaxy might suspect that the protheans did NOT build the Mass relays etc, but they do not KNOW. You and I know because we have Shepards insight. Regardless it would not matter. Finding a representatie of a race that lived 50K years ago and one that ahas boggled the scientific community for centuries, would STILL be pivotal to lore because we hear "Prothean this, prothean that" from about 5 minutes into ME1 and with regular intervals through to the very end of ME2. This guy has potential knowledge of hundreds if not thousands of archeological sites, tech and armour caches, medical secrets, and a massive plethora of other scientifically, culturally, and sociologically important informations.
If the scientific community of today found a sentient alien, 50k years old under the ice in antartica, how would he / she be treated? Would said person be sent out to die, or would said person be the subject of intense scientifc scrutiny? Would such an event not rewrite our entire history and have massive repecussions in theology, culture, and sociology? I can guarantee you it would.
Modifié par Imperium Alpha, 23 février 2012 - 02:02 .
ZDPhoenix wrote...
I almost want to cancel my collectors edition pre-order from the nickel and diming of your fanbase; however I'm unable to this close to release.
I've bought the collectors editions of every Bioware game available to me; proudly as a fan, since I first started playing your games in the early 2000's.
You outright scoff in the face of your non CE consumer base by offering something incredibly lore related like this for $10 to people that don't buy the CE; or are unable to afford it.
This isn't just wrong, Bioware. It's unethical.
If this was like how Shale was in DAO, or Zaeed in ME2; there would be no complaints from me. Complete opposite feeling. Because buying the game new will support Bioware; so a reward like that is nice; and inspires loyalty.
Nickel and Diming us with something developed before the games release is insulting and should be considered an immoral business decision.
Shame on you.
You're stripping yourselves of everything that made you a fan favored company.
MissFish wrote...
You were all perfectly okay with the CE getting exclusive DLC, but when Bioware was kind enough to allow you to get it as well, you're all up in arms about it.
They could just as well not allow you to buy it, and keep it CE exclusive. I hope they take it down, because your all being ungrateful little idiots. This was developed for the CE, but when it can be downloaded for the SE, it's a bad marketing tactic?
Grow up. You guys are making me wish From Ashes was CE exclusive. You seemed fine with it before!
crackseed wrote...
rumbalumba wrote...
i hope to god these Bioware fanboys gets charged $90 for Dragon Age 3 or Mass Effect 4. please lord.
This helps your case alot. Toss out additional insults just because you're being countered in a debate.
I am supporting the DLC scheme, because for me, at the moment, I do not see a large issue with it and I realize, the cost of this is basically not eating out for a day. I understand that there are many who have much tigher budgets. I also realize that as this is completely optional, no matter how "cool" the character is, it falls into the same category as every other DLC done by every other company ever.
Admittedly, I think they would be better served by doing the same thing they did with Shale - free to all game purchases regardless of edition. Since it's not that way, it comes down to either have the CE/DDE - or just shell out 10 to add it to your game. If you hate it, don't buy it and you lose nothing from the game since it's a standalone product.
Am I a mindless biodrone now? I appreciate that people are posting their opinions, but I do not sympathize when some of the opposition gets high and mighty and act like Bioware just slapped their mother in the face and robbed them at gunpoint. This DLC is no different then any other which most companies do. The days of standlone expansion packs are pretty much gone - DLC offers a quicker and more readily available method to add content that had to be cut or delayed into the game, whether it's day 1 or day 90.
Answer with your wallet, but don't come here and generalize me when I made a mature choice and do not fault you for yours nor lump you into some "You're a whiner just like everyone else!" category.
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