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addiction21 wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

Seems all you have to do is release a two minute launch trailer and Bioware is back in everyone's good graces. I stopped counting the "I cancelled my-order and just ordered it again!"


One does not simple re-order a cancelled pre-order.


Why not?  I could go to Amazon right now, cancel my pre-order and then re-order it again in the span of 30 seconds.  Of course, I never would seeing I wouldn't be able to get the CE again.

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obie191970 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

obie191970 wrote...

Seems all you have to do is release a two minute launch trailer and Bioware is back in everyone's good graces. I stopped counting the "I cancelled my-order and just ordered it again!"


One does not simple re-order a cancelled pre-order.


Why not?  I could go to Amazon right now, cancel my pre-order and then re-order it again in the span of 30 seconds.  Of course, I never would seeing I wouldn't be able to get the CE again.


I think you should try. Before you do send me your account name and the tracking number so I can have them redirect the CE to me :)

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addiction21 wrote...
I think you should try. Before you do send me your account name and the tracking number so I can have them redirect the CE to me :)


I'll send you a PM with all my info....:whistle:

:D

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I am probably being dumb/drunk here, but the you get the DLC if you get the digital deluxe right? Just found out my CE edition pre-order from Game was cancelled, and no where has the PC version in the UK.

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Flamingdropbear wrote...

I am probably being dumb/drunk here, but the you get the DLC if you get the digital deluxe right? Just found out my CE edition pre-order from Game was cancelled, and no where has the PC version in the UK.


Yes, you get everything but the physical items.

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Has anybody else here preordered the digital deluxe edition from Amazon and has received their "From Ashes" code? When I check my panel I only have the Origin product key and the M55 Rifle.

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Wrong. 

I can tell you they tolerate Gamestop enough because thats the primary way of recouping costs. To put games into a store, they need to pay for the overhead, essentially the "right' to put them in-store. Gamestop charges a fee for that, but new titles recoup around 70-75% of the cost. In other words, for each new title sold at a store like Gamestop, EA and BioWare get around $48 dollars in their pockets at time of release, minus DLC costs and what not. 

Gamestop gets almost  none of that, because the rest tends to go for the overhead fee. Where gamestop makes money is used sales.  Gamestop gets 100% of the profits from used titles,so a brand new title nets them $57.00 a pop. This is why they promote used over new all the time, and offer incentives to save money through used purchases like the Rewards card and the Game Informer subscription, the $3.00 protection plan, etc. It's all basically done so they can get money and keep it in-store.

Now keep this in perspective, A game like Mass Effect 2 sold 2.73 million copies on the Xbox 360, whereas the PC version had just under a million sold. These are VG Chartz numbers, so take them with a grain of salt. That said, the 360 was the most profitable platform for Mass Effect 2, meaning out of that console alone, EA and BioWare would be getting over 2 million dollars in the end. 

What is the point basically? Well, they got nothing from the used sales, so they tried to figure out ways to get something for them. It wasn't a huge success because consumers who tend to buy used complained about the price tag of $15.00 for the pass, and Gamestop complained because they were being undercut, essentially giving consumers the choice to buy new for cheaper, over used for cheaper, which is how Gamestop gets you. 

Game companies work with the stores within reason, if Gamestop complains to them about something, Gamestop can refuse to carry the product if its not fixed. We saw something similar with GAME in the U.K, they were floundering as a company and it was decided they would not carry any EA title for the month of March, along with Mario Party 9 for some reason and other games. Whats worse is they cancelled pre-orders, but the big difference here is that GAME did it because they are close to bankruptcy, and were likely asking to charge more for overhead. In the long run they will be hit more because it was too close to release for Mass Effect 3 and people will be pissed about that one, along with the loss of FIFA. But thats not here nor there. Point is, its a symbiotic buisness relationship Game companies and retailers have.

As for the multiplayer component, if its true, then we shall see the same thing happen in the end. 


Nonsense. Big launch titles like ME don't pay for shelfspace, the game practically sells it's self by now and the retailer who doesn't want to put it on his shelf is an idiot. Second they have Origin. And third  I don't know why you're telling me why they created the 0-day DLC concept and Project 10 Dollar but the long piece of text has absolutely nothing to add here.

Modifié par ZX12r Ninja, 02 mars 2012 - 09:01 .


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Anything new happening around here? Or is it still a give more free stuff party?

Squadmate, mission is part of the regular game experience for the collectors edition. The CE having an extra dude has been announced for a long time. Some people wanted to get that character, and so they ordered the CE. Other people decided that the character is probably going to be stupid and instead went with the SE.

But Bioware never said that the bonus character would be something stupid/worthless. Then it was announced what the character's race is and people started to complain. Presumably because back when they decided that the character would be something stupid that they wouldn't want, they were wrong. Instead of realizing they may have made a pre-mature assumption, people get mad. It would be more understandable to be sad about missing out on this dude if the character were completely restricted to the CE, but it's not; so if you do think that the bonus character isn't stupid and a waste of time, you have an avenue to include it in your game. And for less than the price of getting the CE, the only edition that has the character by default. That does sound pretty terrible; everybody should complain more. It would be so much better if it were only possible to get the bonus dude by pre-ordering the CE, but since it's sold out now you'd need to find a used copy on ebay/gamestop later.

Also, what're the odds this thing reaches page 600 before launch?

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FlyingCow371 wrote...



Also, what're the odds this thing reaches page 600 before launch?


It'ss been slowing down for the last 2, 3 days. From  50-75 per day to about 15-25 per day. Unlikely unless more controversy happens. TotalBiscuit release another grossly-misconstured piece on From Ashes, please. It'd cause the thread to go haywire.

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Hold on to your butts

https://twitter.com/...616446473318401

"After playing From Ashes , it seems like such a critical part of the #ME3 story . . . Idk why they made it a DLC"

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k177sh0t wrote...

Hold on to your butts

https://twitter.com/...616446473318401

"After playing From Ashes , it seems like such a critical part of the #ME3 story . . . Idk why they made it a DLC"


Does she mean of the Mass Effect story, or of Mass Effect 3? People can confuse the two.

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From Ashes officially leaked on PC. So watch out..

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obie191970

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AxisEvolve wrote...

From Ashes officially leaked on PC. So watch out..


That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one....:whistle:

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FlyingCow371 wrote...

Anything new happening around here? Or is it still a give more free stuff party?

Squadmate, mission is part of the regular game experience for the collectors edition. The CE having an extra dude has been announced for a long time. Some people wanted to get that character, and so they ordered the CE. Other people decided that the character is probably going to be stupid and instead went with the SE.

But Bioware never said that the bonus character would be something stupid/worthless. Then it was announced what the character's race is and people started to complain. Presumably because back when they decided that the character would be something stupid that they wouldn't want, they were wrong. Instead of realizing they may have made a pre-mature assumption, people get mad. It would be more understandable to be sad about missing out on this dude if the character were completely restricted to the CE, but it's not; so if you do think that the bonus character isn't stupid and a waste of time, you have an avenue to include it in your game. And for less than the price of getting the CE, the only edition that has the character by default. That does sound pretty terrible; everybody should complain more. It would be so much better if it were only possible to get the bonus dude by pre-ordering the CE, but since it's sold out now you'd need to find a used copy on ebay/gamestop later.

Also, what're the odds this thing reaches page 600 before launch?


sigh, not this again..

besides bioware and EA, name a company that separates available story content AT LAUNCH in order to monetize it?

right, NO ONE. so why should customers expect something different from bioware?

if i pay $60 for a complete version of the game, i expect to get a complete version of the game.  period.

also, why was zaeed and shale offered as new game incentive and not the prothean?

because of multiplayer?

right, because there are zero companies that offer a complete version of the game (ALL story content is included), as well as multiplayer at no extra cost.

wait, pretty much everyone does that?  well, gosh darn.  maybe people do have a right to be upset.

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CommanderCoffee wrote...

k177sh0t wrote...

Hold on to your butts

https://twitter.com/...616446473318401

"After playing From Ashes , it seems like such a critical part of the #ME3 story . . . Idk why they made it a DLC"


Does she mean of the Mass Effect story, or of Mass Effect 3? People can confuse the two.


Not only that, but I think you would need to play the game without From Ashes to truly know how 'critical' it is to the game.

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obie191970 wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

From Ashes officially leaked on PC. So watch out..


That's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one....:whistle:

Haha. You're right.

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k177sh0t wrote...

Hold on to your butts

https://twitter.com/...616446473318401

"After playing From Ashes , it seems like such a critical part of the #ME3 story . . . Idk why they made it a DLC"


THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Not sure if I posted in this epic thread. There NOW I'm sure I did.

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is this dlc going to be available for purchase before launch, if so where do i purchase it at?

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frdbrlw1 wrote...

is this dlc going to be available for purchase before launch, if so where do i purchase it at?


Pretty sure you can get it from Gamestop and then they email you a code.

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- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.


Interesting. I wonder whether this includes a different writing team, too. While I think it will be fascinating to talk to a Prothean, my one concern is that his appearance should be consistent with the rest of the story - the Protheans have been extinct for 50 thousand years, so this guy's appearance needs some good writing.


This is why I don't think they should have given in and added the Prothean at all. Maybe contact with another "Vigil" but it would have been better to leave them as whiped out / turned into collectors.

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I will blindly buy the dlc as many others will so I can play the complete game. it’s just sad as a fan of the series that I’m not making this purchase out of excitement for the content but because I’m being forced to. I did order the CE with GameStop online so many months ago but when I went to pay off my pre-order today at the local shop they said I did not order the CE and there were no pre-orders available because it was sold out. The point of the last sentence is that I was aware of some kind of dlc but nothing that would change the game or how it affected my play thorough on day one.


one thing did work out tho. at my work they give you the day off for your birthday and MA3 drops on my birthday so at least the video game gods are watching out
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frdbrlw1 wrote...

is this dlc going to be available for purchase before launch, if so where do i purchase it at?

Some stores claim to be the only place where you can pre-order it. But it doesn't matter, cause you can buy it through the origin-client, whenever you want (after release of ME3), and  'From Ashes' doesn't come with any pre-order bonus or something So no reason to purchase yet before launch.
If you still feel you must own this before the release-date, buy the digital deluxe edition from origin, because from ashes is a part of it.

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I think this will be an interesting side story IMO.

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Does any one know if EA/BioWare has said any more about the DLC or is it still the same thing they said last time?