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[obie191970]

Cap Rev wrote...

Does any one know if EA/BioWare has said any more about the DLC or is it still the same thing they said last time?

Nothing officially.  There only statement is the OP and Mike's post around page 100.

[Cap Rev]

obie191970 wrote...

Cap Rev wrote...

Does any one know if EA/BioWare has said any more about the DLC or is it still the same thing they said last time?

Nothing officially.  There only statement is the OP and Mike's post around page 100.

 Thank you

[LinksOcarina]

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

Nonsense. Big launch titles like ME don't pay for shelfspace, the game practically sells it's self by now and the retailer who doesn't want to put it on his shelf is an idiot. Second they have Origin. And third  I don't know why you're telling me why they created the 0-day DLC concept and Project 10 Dollar but the long piece of text has absolutely nothing to add here.

Wrong again. Every game has to pay for shelfspace, otherwise the companies would be put to trial for violating trade and rights issues. Without paying them, Gamestop and other companies can sue if the games are sold in their stores without paying for the right to do it. As for GAME, I agree, it is a bad idea to not put it on the shelf. 

Origin will only help in profits but will not make a dent as much as you think, because a vast majority of the games revenue will be through brick and mortar stores, with amazon and Origin selling it as well. 

The only thing the piece of text added was evidence to the argument of why previous retail practices were likely not used on From Ashes. You know, evidence and things that need to be addressed.

[ZX12r Ninja]

LinksOcarina wrote...

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

Nonsense. Big launch titles like ME don't pay for shelfspace, the game practically sells it's self by now and the retailer who doesn't want to put it on his shelf is an idiot. Second they have Origin. And third  I don't know why you're telling me why they created the 0-day DLC concept and Project 10 Dollar but the long piece of text has absolutely nothing to add here.

Wrong again. Every game has to pay for shelfspace, otherwise the companies would be put to trial for violating trade and rights issues. Without paying them, Gamestop and other companies can sue if the games are sold in their stores without paying for the right to do it. As for GAME, I agree, it is a bad idea to not put it on the shelf. 

Origin will only help in profits but will not make a dent as much as you think, because a vast majority of the games revenue will be through brick and mortar stores, with amazon and Origin selling it as well. 

The only thing the piece of text added was evidence to the argument of why previous retail practices were likely not used on From Ashes. You know, evidence and things that need to be addressed.

If you like to believe that... However I am a retailer and I haven't paid for it.

[spirosz]

I'm surprised this thread is still kickin'

[ediskrad327]

i'm more surprised there is no Prothy trailer yet :/

[didymos1120]

ediskrad327 wrote...

i'm more surprised there is no Prothy trailer yet :/

They don't want to rile people up anymore by putting out a "Hey you guys...WANNA BUY THIS?" promo.

[OdanUrr]

didymos1120 wrote...

ediskrad327 wrote...

i'm more surprised there is no Prothy trailer yet :/

They don't want to rile people up anymore by putting out a "Hey you guys...WANNA BUY THIS?" promo.

What he said.

[LinksOcarina]

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

Nonsense. Big launch titles like ME don't pay for shelfspace, the game practically sells it's self by now and the retailer who doesn't want to put it on his shelf is an idiot. Second they have Origin. And third  I don't know why you're telling me why they created the 0-day DLC concept and Project 10 Dollar but the long piece of text has absolutely nothing to add here.

Wrong again. Every game has to pay for shelfspace, otherwise the companies would be put to trial for violating trade and rights issues. Without paying them, Gamestop and other companies can sue if the games are sold in their stores without paying for the right to do it. As for GAME, I agree, it is a bad idea to not put it on the shelf. 

Origin will only help in profits but will not make a dent as much as you think, because a vast majority of the games revenue will be through brick and mortar stores, with amazon and Origin selling it as well. 

The only thing the piece of text added was evidence to the argument of why previous retail practices were likely not used on From Ashes. You know, evidence and things that need to be addressed.

If you like to believe that... However I am a retailer and I haven't paid for it.

Then you are technically breaking the law. But whatever, it doesn't matter much anyway.

honestly if this is true then i'm wrong. No big deal. I worked in retail long enough to learn these things so unless if they lied to me, but to each their own.

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 03 mars 2012 - 02:05 .

[PARAGON87]

ediskrad327 wrote...

i'm more surprised there is no Prothy trailer yet :/

I would think that they're saving it for Monday or Tuesday to not spoil it for everyone (at least the non-forumites).

[NeecHMonkeY]

haseown wrote...

I will blindly buy the dlc as many others will so I can play the complete game. it’s just sad as a fan of the series that I’m not making this purchase out of excitement for the content but because I’m being forced to. I did order the CE with GameStop online so many months ago but when I went to pay off my pre-order today at the local shop they said I did not order the CE and there were no pre-orders available because it was sold out. The point of the last sentence is that I was aware of some kind of dlc but nothing that would change the game or how it affected my play thorough on day one.

This is something else that really bothers me about this situation.

There are many customers like yourself who had every intention of buying the CE and through no fault of your own, lost that chance because the Pre-orders were cancelled and the CE was no longer available anywhere else.

I'm in a similar situation as simply based on my location, the Collector's Edition isn't even an option. I (a loyal fan) only have the choice of buying the Standard Edition or nothing at all.

Others would have everyone believe that you're lucky because Bioware has made the DLC available to everyone on the first day for an extra $10 and in a way, they are correct - it is good that this content is at least available to everyone.

But with that extra $10, the price of your Standard Edition game (now $70) almost matches what you were going to spend on the Collector's Edition ($80) but all you get is the DLC and nothing else. Had you been lucky enough to get the CE as you originally planned, for the additional $10 you would have also received an artbook, comic, soundtrack, etc.

Are we really expected to believe that the DLC part of the CE is worth $10 and everything else in the set combined is worth $10?

If we have to pay for it as a separate download, surely something closer to 400MSP/$5 is a much more reasonable price if we only receive the DLC.

[Assassin Clow]

awesome muajajajaja

[Evilelf007]

Here's an interesting interview where CH goes into detail on how this is day 1 dlc...

http://venturebeat.c...fans-interview/

[TheGoddess0fWar]

Am I late to the 500 page celebration?

[Evilelf007]

just a little... This thread isn't kicking like it was 50+ pages ago.

[TheGoddess0fWar]

About damn time 7-7

[LinksOcarina]

Darn shame, I was hoping we can push for 600 now....

Hey, I can dream.

[NeecHMonkeY]

Evilelf007 wrote...

Here's an interesting interview where CH goes into detail on how this is day 1 dlc...

http://venturebeat.c...fans-interview/

Everytime they try to explain something and give their excuse, I get more confused over the situation:

CH: "We finished it too early. The team actually worked extra hard so that you would have the option of playing it in your first playthrough."

They finished early? But it was advertised as being a part of the Collector's Edition for months so wouldn't they need to have it ready to release at the same time as the game anyway?

The story keeps changing and contradicting other parts of their story.

Modifié par NeecHMonkeY, 03 mars 2012 - 03:33 .

[TheGoddess0fWar]

Let it die. Just let it die.

[LinksOcarina]

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

Evilelf007 wrote...

Here's an interesting interview where CH goes into detail on how this is day 1 dlc...

http://venturebeat.c...fans-interview/

Everytime they try to explain something and give their excuse, I get more confused over the situation:

CH: "We finished it too early. The team actually worked extra hard so that you would have the option of playing it in your first playthrough."

They finished early? But it was advertised as being a part of the Collector's Edition for months so wouldn't they need to have it ready to release at the same time as the game anyway?

The story keeps changing and contradicting other parts of their story.

It was advertised as being part of the collectors edition for over a year. That doesn't mean much though, it just means it was planned for a while. And hell, they probably began working on it right after the game was submitted into certification. 

My guess is by "finishing it early" they mean it was done soon after the announcement of it, so id say like a  week ago or something.

Could be totally wrong, but eh.

[_symphony]

NeecHMonkeY wrote...
(...)

Others would have everyone believe that you're lucky because Bioware has made the DLC available to everyone on the first day for an extra $10 and in a way, they are correct - it is good that this content is at least available to everyone.

(...)

There's nothing to be grateful about it, Prothy was never advertised as exclusive, it was meant to be available to everyone from the start, is just that BioWare never was forthcoming about it.

[Gatt9]

LinksOcarina wrote...

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

Nonsense. Big launch titles like ME don't pay for shelfspace, the game practically sells it's self by now and the retailer who doesn't want to put it on his shelf is an idiot. Second they have Origin. And third  I don't know why you're telling me why they created the 0-day DLC concept and Project 10 Dollar but the long piece of text has absolutely nothing to add here.

Wrong again. Every game has to pay for shelfspace, otherwise the companies would be put to trial for violating trade and rights issues. Without paying them, Gamestop and other companies can sue if the games are sold in their stores without paying for the right to do it. As for GAME, I agree, it is a bad idea to not put it on the shelf. 

Origin will only help in profits but will not make a dent as much as you think, because a vast majority of the games revenue will be through brick and mortar stores, with amazon and Origin selling it as well. 

The only thing the piece of text added was evidence to the argument of why previous retail practices were likely not used on From Ashes. You know, evidence and things that need to be addressed.

You couldn't be more wrong.

The contracts actually stipulate that the retailer purchases X quantity,  and if after 6-12 months they still have Y remainder,  the publisher agrees to purchase the copies back.

Nor can the retailers sue anyone.  If they want to sell games,  they have no choice but to buy them from the publishers/distributers.  The publishers don't particularly need any given retailer,  not even Gamestop.  There are myriad alternatives,  all of which would be more than happy to generate revenue from game sales.  In fact,  the truth is,  publishers want Gamestop to go away,  because it kills the used game market if they do.  Gamestop's balanced on the edge of disaster,  the moment publishers can get rid of them,  Gamestop's going to be intentionally cutoff.

You *very* seriously need to go do more research.  Nothing works the way you think it does.

[gigiduru]

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

Evilelf007 wrote...

Here's an interesting interview where CH goes into detail on how this is day 1 dlc...

http://venturebeat.c...fans-interview/

Everytime they try to explain something and give their excuse, I get more confused over the situation:

CH: "We finished it too early. The team actually worked extra hard so that you would have the option of playing it in your first playthrough."

They finished early? But it was advertised as being a part of the Collector's Edition for months so wouldn't they need to have it ready to release at the same time as the game anyway?

The story keeps changing and contradicting other parts of their story.

+1 mate , exactly my thoughts .

[CommanderCoffee]

LinksOcarina wrote...

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

Evilelf007 wrote...

Here's an interesting interview where CH goes into detail on how this is day 1 dlc...

http://venturebeat.c...fans-interview/

Everytime they try to explain something and give their excuse, I get more confused over the situation:

CH: "We finished it too early. The team actually worked extra hard so that you would have the option of playing it in your first playthrough."

They finished early? But it was advertised as being a part of the Collector's Edition for months so wouldn't they need to have it ready to release at the same time as the game anyway?

The story keeps changing and contradicting other parts of their story.

It was advertised as being part of the collectors edition for over a year. That doesn't mean much though, it just means it was planned for a while. And hell, they probably began working on it right after the game was submitted into certification. 

My guess is by "finishing it early" they mean it was done soon after the announcement of it, so id say like a  week ago or something.

Could be totally wrong, but eh.

I'm looking at the quote and I'm seeing them saying that they finished far ahead of schedule. Yes, they'd need it done by release for the CE, but they finished it early enough that it could be processed and sold, at release, for those without CEs.

[gigiduru]

CommanderCoffee wrote...

I'm looking at the quote and I'm seeing them saying that they finished far ahead of schedule. Yes, they'd need it done by release for the CE, but they finished it early enough that it could be processed and sold, at release, for those without CEs.

Are you actualy reading what you write ? So 1st they say that this was done by a different team working in paralel with the original team . So this is why they charge 10 $ , so they could cover the cost of the aditional team and so they don't have to fire ppl . 
But the dlc had to be finished at launch so that the CE owners could have they char. So they were OBLIGATED to finish bf release date otherwise your precious CE wouldn't have had the dlc in it . 
They knew from begining that they were gonna finish the dlc bc it was mandatory for the CE version and you can't deny that . They are contradicting themselves because they ran out of explanations . Anyways i stoped believing what PR ppl said 10 years ago .