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DLC seems to be released already. It made its way on the internet

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Joker1117 wrote...

To add insult to injury, the EA support site lists it as only being 35 minutes long. Kasumi, Overlord and Arrival were all much longer and were cheaper.


Source? If true then theres no way in hell that it's worth what it's currently priced at. It's a real shame they didn't use this dlc as the incentive to buy new along side the online pass, but if this is true then you guys picking up the SE can't be missing out on much.

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kriosfan wrote...

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

If they charge $10 for it, it's bound to have some kind of importance...


Just like the trims on my car are important to make my car look good.


This. It's irritating that people don't understand that it's not necessary. If it were "essential" to the plot, it would be in the game. 


I don't think anyone's saying "From Ashes" is literally 'essential.'  But it does provide "Something" that you otherwise wouldn't have in the story.  How much of ME2's story was "necessary"?

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kriosfan wrote...

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

If they charge $10 for it, it's bound to have some kind of importance...


Just like the trims on my car are important to make my car look good.


This. It's irritating that people don't understand that it's not necessary. If it were "essential" to the plot, it would be in the game. 


Yeah, "Lair of the Shadow Broker" was also essential to the plot and you had to pay for it (except you bought the PS3 version).

The DLC should be at least free for everyone that buys the game new, although I don't like Online passes for singleplayer content. But the actual situation is a rip-off. Not to mention the spyware Origin. 

And it all started so well in 2008, BEFORE EA laid their dirty hands on BioWare. :(

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How was lair of the shadow broker essential to the plot of ME2? I played through the game several times before that dlc was released and it took nothing away from the story. It was additional content between ME2/ME3 time line that was not essential to the plot of ME2.

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Evilelf007 wrote...

How was lair of the shadow broker essential to the plot of ME2? I played through the game several times before that dlc was released and it took nothing away from the story. It was additional content between ME2/ME3 time line that was not essential to the plot of ME2.


Liara was one of the main characters in ME1 and furthermore you learn more about what happened between ME1 and ME2 (rescue of Shepards body) in the DLC. It was disappointing that she barely existed in ME2 until the DLC showed up.

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LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

Joker1117 wrote...

To add insult to injury, the EA support site lists it as only being 35 minutes long. Kasumi, Overlord and Arrival were all much longer and were cheaper.


Source? If true then theres no way in hell that it's worth what it's currently priced at. It's a real shame they didn't use this dlc as the incentive to buy new along side the online pass, but if this is true then you guys picking up the SE can't be missing out on much.

http://help.ea.com/a...-ashes-dlc-info

Sadly, it's true. Even with 7 costumes, a gun and a squaddie it's nowhere near worth 10$. Dissapointing considering we got ~2 hour long missions in ME2 for 7$.

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Joker1117 wrote...

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

Joker1117 wrote...

To add insult to injury, the EA support site lists it as only being 35 minutes long. Kasumi, Overlord and Arrival were all much longer and were cheaper.


Source? If true then theres no way in hell that it's worth what it's currently priced at. It's a real shame they didn't use this dlc as the incentive to buy new along side the online pass, but if this is true then you guys picking up the SE can't be missing out on much.

http://help.ea.com/a...-ashes-dlc-info

Sadly, it's true. Even with 7 costumes, a gun and a squaddie it's nowhere near worth 10$. Dissapointing considering we got ~2 hour long missions in ME2 for 7$.


Nono, this is just EA lying for sales or something, tight? RIGHT? :(

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CommanderCoffee wrote...

Joker1117 wrote...

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

Joker1117 wrote...

To add insult to injury, the EA support site lists it as only being 35 minutes long. Kasumi, Overlord and Arrival were all much longer and were cheaper.


Source? If true then theres no way in hell that it's worth what it's currently priced at. It's a real shame they didn't use this dlc as the incentive to buy new along side the online pass, but if this is true then you guys picking up the SE can't be missing out on much.

http://help.ea.com/a...-ashes-dlc-info

Sadly, it's true. Even with 7 costumes, a gun and a squaddie it's nowhere near worth 10$. Dissapointing considering we got ~2 hour long missions in ME2 for 7$.


Nono, this is just EA lying for sales or something, tight? RIGHT? :(


I wish my friend, I wish. Kasumi came with a squaddie, gun, casual costume and a MUCH longer mission for 3$ cheaper. Even with the alt costumes and a more developed squaddie we're getting gypped.

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Joker1117 wrote...

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

Joker1117 wrote...

To add insult to injury, the EA support site lists it as only being 35 minutes long. Kasumi, Overlord and Arrival were all much longer and were cheaper.


Source? If true then theres no way in hell that it's worth what it's currently priced at. It's a real shame they didn't use this dlc as the incentive to buy new along side the online pass, but if this is true then you guys picking up the SE can't be missing out on much.

http://help.ea.com/a...-ashes-dlc-info

Sadly, it's true. Even with 7 costumes, a gun and a squaddie it's nowhere near worth 10$. Dissapointing considering we got ~2 hour long missions in ME2 for 7$.


No way... So "about 35 minutes" is how they are promoting it, which means it's probaly even shorter than that. If I wasent getting the CE theres no way I would buy this dlc. 

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
I don't think anyone's saying "From Ashes" is literally 'essential.'  But it does provide "Something" that you otherwise wouldn't have in the story.  How much of ME2's story was "necessary"?


Yes they are. Read the thread, people are saying the game is incomplete without the DLC.

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I'm actually quite hyped about the DLC as every damned CE in my town has been sold out for months "MY ROBOHOUND!" Sure its a little high compaired to some DLC but come on people its a whole ten dollar bill...if my broke **** can afford it... so let's all lace our boots like the reasonable adults that we are and go stomple some reaper tailpipe with some vendicated prothean angst.

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LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

Joker1117 wrote...

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

Joker1117 wrote...

To add insult to injury, the EA support site lists it as only being 35 minutes long. Kasumi, Overlord and Arrival were all much longer and were cheaper.


Source? If true then theres no way in hell that it's worth what it's currently priced at. It's a real shame they didn't use this dlc as the incentive to buy new along side the online pass, but if this is true then you guys picking up the SE can't be missing out on much.

http://help.ea.com/a...-ashes-dlc-info

Sadly, it's true. Even with 7 costumes, a gun and a squaddie it's nowhere near worth 10$. Dissapointing considering we got ~2 hour long missions in ME2 for 7$.


No way... So "about 35 minutes" is how they are promoting it, which means it's probaly even shorter than that. If I wasent getting the CE theres no way I would buy this dlc. 


My thoughts exactly. It's almost always shorter than what they officially state. Hope you guys like gettting an N7 mission with your squaddie for 10$.

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Falcon509 wrote...

avmf8 wrote...

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- “From Ashes” includes the Prothean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate
appearance for every squad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are in addition to the ones already advertised in the CE.

- The Collectors Edition has been advertised from the beginning as containing a bonus character/mission, but we were not at liberty to provide the details. The Prothean is optional content that is certainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of the CE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase).  Mass Effect 3 is a complete – and a huge game - right out of the box.

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

- The Collectors Edition has been sold out in most places for some time now, and is becoming very hard to find (many players prefer not to purchase the digital version). As such, we wanted to make this content available so that SE buyers could also incorporate the Prothean into their game.


Why are people so up-in-arms about the DLC? It's pretty clear from the OP... It was meant as a Collector's Edition exclusive DLC. They made it available to everyone because they felt that there weren't enough CE copies made. So in essence, the SE owners can now own something that would otherwise not be available to them.

Yes, it's costs $9.99 USD but there's a $20.00 USD price difference between the CE and the SE. People who pre-ordered the CE get it for free because it was originally intended that way.


I do not care how it was intended I don't buy CE editions of games. I don't want comic books or novels or trinkets or fabric patches or anything like that. So the devs decide they want to milk me for another 10 dollars because I did not want all that extra phisial stuff?

Only time I have ever had a phisical collectoirs edition collector stuff is once when a game store put that stuff in the box with my order. I think they wanted to get rid of it and unloaded it on me. IO literally recieved  abag of different fabric patches from various games including mass effect. I saw them and though "WTF am I going to do with these" They are now all covering the outside of my CD binder where I keep my games.

I do not want ectra things I just dont. I just want  a game. I don't want it and its wrong to withold game content from me and expect me to pay for it on day 1 because I don't want phisical extras.

I don't like peoplke trying to manipulate me into buying stuff I don't want. That is all it is they are trying to manipulate me and others into buying a special edition.

Sorry I pre ordered the game all DLC should be free for me. All the DLC should be free. Peple who did not pre order should still get the day 1 DLC for free if the game was bought new.


Bolded to be seen better I pay $60 for a game when I could have waited and this is the thanks I get.


Like it or not, the game is a product of years of work courtesy of the work of many individuals. Even small DLC would take months to design and test. To assume that they should be free is, to be perfectly honest, childish. They worked to make the DLC and I personally think that they have to right to be reimbursed for their efforts.



Yeah well I only have 12 grand a year total in income. The developers must get way more than that so I do not feel bad for them at all. A small DLC would not take months to make. The only way it would take months is if only 1 person was working on it.

It is not childish I am 30 years old I remmeber when DLC was free. That is right on the PC many add ons were free and some still are. Take Left for Dead 2 not only was all the DLC the first game was free with it. Since it is on steam I literally do not need to even lift a finger to get it.

I can tell since Steam will begin downloading something. So when done I will start it up to see new levels in there.

I do not think it is childish at all to expect a game to give free DLC if I pre ordered it. The DLC should be free as a perk for pre ordering. A I scrath your back you scratch mine sort of thing. Though somehow Bioware has mistook the word scratch for stab. But stab is really  a metiphore for taking more from my wallet.

Also if you can't see the arrogance in what they said I am not going to try and convince you. Some people thankfully have seen it for what it is as well. The fact some get it at least is something.

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Alright, so I originally posted another topic related to this, simply because I've read through this particular thread and I felt like no one at Bioware was actually reading this, and this sticky had become a flame war more than anything. My original post: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9601322/1#9601322

A lot of people got offended really quickly that I was "trying to speak for everyone" which is simply not the case. That would be both arrogant and presumptuous. I wrote that open letter in such a way to facilitate discussion, and perhaps hear from Bioware, if I got lucky. Instead, I got the internet. My problem isn't that I feel that the game is incomplete (because it looks and feels to be very complete, even without this DLC). I truly believe what the company has to say regarding the circumstances around the release of the game and the DLC on launch day. Simply, they gave us the online pass in the new copies of Mass Effect 2 to encourage us to buy the game new, and gave us DLC with it, DLC that is at least comparable to what we're getting now. The whole point was to make sure that they (EA/Bioware) are getting the money that they deserve for their hard work, rather than see it lost to the used gaming market. These are all fair business decisions. By comparison, it doesn't seem like an ethical business decision to change the standard now for no discernible reason.

Ultimately, I am going to buy the DLC, if they make it free or not. I feel that it's worth my money because I've thoroughly enjoyed the Mass Effect series until now, and I don't want to miss out on that aspect of the story. Bioware should know, however, that the people that this affects are the same people that give them money, and they should make smarter decisions.

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DeOmegus wrote...

I'm actually quite hyped about the DLC as every damned CE in my town has been sold out for months "MY ROBOHOUND!" Sure its a little high compaired to some DLC but come on people its a whole ten dollar bill...if my broke **** can afford it... so let's all lace our boots like the reasonable adults that we are and go stomple some reaper tailpipe with some vendicated prothean angst.


I was waiting for someone to bring up the old its only 10 dollar argument. It is the fact 10 dollars here 10 dolars there adds up. If 6 different games fleece you for 10 bucks that is another $60 game gone. I only have a finite budget to spend on games. Little by little game makers are making my buck get me less and less content.

I am being a reasonable adult I want games to remain affordable if they keep upping the price I will be unable to afford them. Don't tell me they wont up the price more that has been a trend I have seen.

I have never been wrong about this kind of thing not once. When DLC first came out I  said if people buy into this it will be common place. People said I was being immature or a conspiracy theorist. Well tell me was I incorrect with my original accesment? I pretty much can gather that I was 100% correct. I have never been wrong once and I doupt I will be wrong here. Keep in mind I would like to be wrong. But I have a very real concern where all this is going,

Slowly prices for games have just been rising.

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avmf8 wrote...

DeOmegus wrote...

I'm actually quite hyped about the DLC as every damned CE in my town has been sold out for months "MY ROBOHOUND!" Sure its a little high compaired to some DLC but come on people its a whole ten dollar bill...if my broke **** can afford it... so let's all lace our boots like the reasonable adults that we are and go stomple some reaper tailpipe with some vendicated prothean angst.


I was waiting for someone to bring up the old its only 10 dollar argument. It is the fact 10 dollars here 10 dolars there adds up. If 6 different games fleece you for 10 bucks that is another $60 game gone. I only have a finite budget to spend on games. Little by little game makers are making my buck get me less and less content.

I am being a reasonable adult I want games to remain affordable if they keep upping the price I will be unable to afford them. Don't tell me they wont up the price more that has been a trend I have seen.

I have never been wrong about this kind of thing not once. When DLC first came out I  said if people buy into this it will be common place. People said I was being immature or a conspiracy theorist. Well tell me was I incorrect with my original accesment? I pretty much can gather that I was 100% correct. I have never been wrong once and I doupt I will be wrong here. Keep in mind I would like to be wrong. But I have a very real concern where all this is going,

Slowly prices for games have just been rising.

Prices rise anyway... it's called inflation.  We're lucky that the core games haven't risen above $60 for the past 5-6years!  Inflation rates say they should have gone well above $75 by now.  They haven't.

As for dlc... you must be the type that has to buy every dlc available for every game you own.  I do not do that for every game... the game has to be a spectacular game for me to consider doing such a thing.  Mass Effect is one of those spectacular games.

Most other games, I usually pass on most if not all dlc.

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Joker1117 wrote...

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

Joker1117 wrote...

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

Joker1117 wrote...

To add insult to injury, the EA support site lists it as only being 35 minutes long. Kasumi, Overlord and Arrival were all much longer and were cheaper.


Source? If true then theres no way in hell that it's worth what it's currently priced at. It's a real shame they didn't use this dlc as the incentive to buy new along side the online pass, but if this is true then you guys picking up the SE can't be missing out on much.

http://help.ea.com/a...-ashes-dlc-info

Sadly, it's true. Even with 7 costumes, a gun and a squaddie it's nowhere near worth 10$. Dissapointing considering we got ~2 hour long missions in ME2 for 7$.


No way... So "about 35 minutes" is how they are promoting it, which means it's probaly even shorter than that. If I wasent getting the CE theres no way I would buy this dlc. 


My thoughts exactly. It's almost always shorter than what they officially state. Hope you guys like gettting an N7 mission with your squaddie for 10$.

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I realy hope the person who wrote that up were just misinformed, half an hour just dosent sound right. It can't be THAT short I mean what could you actualy get done in that time? A few fire fights and a conversation at the begining and end? 

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Evilelf007 wrote...

avmf8 wrote...

DeOmegus wrote...

I'm actually quite hyped about the DLC as every damned CE in my town has been sold out for months "MY ROBOHOUND!" Sure its a little high compaired to some DLC but come on people its a whole ten dollar bill...if my broke **** can afford it... so let's all lace our boots like the reasonable adults that we are and go stomple some reaper tailpipe with some vendicated prothean angst.


I was waiting for someone to bring up the old its only 10 dollar argument. It is the fact 10 dollars here 10 dolars there adds up. If 6 different games fleece you for 10 bucks that is another $60 game gone. I only have a finite budget to spend on games. Little by little game makers are making my buck get me less and less content.

I am being a reasonable adult I want games to remain affordable if they keep upping the price I will be unable to afford them. Don't tell me they wont up the price more that has been a trend I have seen.

I have never been wrong about this kind of thing not once. When DLC first came out I  said if people buy into this it will be common place. People said I was being immature or a conspiracy theorist. Well tell me was I incorrect with my original accesment? I pretty much can gather that I was 100% correct. I have never been wrong once and I doupt I will be wrong here. Keep in mind I would like to be wrong. But I have a very real concern where all this is going,

Slowly prices for games have just been rising.

Prices rise anyway... it's called inflation.  We're lucky that the core games haven't risen above $60 for the past 5-6years!  Inflation rates say they should have gone well above $75 by now.  They haven't.

As for dlc... you must be the type that has to buy every dlc available for every game you own.  I do not do that for every game... the game has to be a spectacular game for me to consider doing such a thing.  Mass Effect is one of those spectacular games.

Most other games, I usually pass on most if not all dlc.


They went from $50 to $60 not that long ago. Then they want to up it again. I don't care about infaltion the people who thought that up are just useless human beings who fleece the little guy for more and more money. I pre ordered this game I bought the other DLC for the other games the least they can do is give me all the DLC for this game for free as a thank you.

DLC should be a thankyou to people who bought there game on the release date. That should be the incentive to pre order free DLC.  $60 is enough money for a game.

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Evilelf007 wrote...


Prices rise anyway... it's called inflation.  We're lucky that the core games haven't risen above $60 for the past 5-6years!  Inflation rates say they should have gone well above $75 by now.  They haven't.

As for dlc... you must be the type that has to buy every dlc available for every game you own.  I do not do that for every game... the game has to be a spectacular game for me to consider doing such a thing.  Mass Effect is one of those spectacular games.

Most other games, I usually pass on most if not all dlc.


You seem to have missed my post directed at you earlier that explains why we haven't seen much of a price inflation with games over the past 10 years... and why they should most likely drop even further:

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

Evilelf007 wrote...

Inflation
rates say that games should have shot past the $70 mark a long time
ago... Games have managed to be immune due to the fact that dlc allows
developers to keep games cheaper as they can make up the difference in
bonus content later.

Everyone should be THANKFUL for dlc!


You need to do a little research on that one before claiming it as fact.

Though
it's true that the price of games over time has not changed much, even
decreasing in price in some cases, DLC is not the reason behind it.

- The cost of the media involved (discs, etc) has decreased dramatically in those years.

-
The change in the media used; Cartridge based gaming moved over to the
much cheaper CD based gaming and now it's happening again with games
moving completely to digital. No distribution costs should mean that
games will become even cheaper (and hopefully an end to the notion of
online passes, etc as there will be no 2nd hand market to compete with).

-
A massive increase in the customer base and market share. Gaming used
to be a very niche market and now it rivals (and in some cases topples)
the film industry.

- Competition amongst developers/publishers
has increased dramatically in the past 10 years and so, prices also need
to remain competitive (just like you see with gas stations and
supermarkets).

- Retailers have much more strict limits placed on them as to how far they can stray from the recommended retail price.

Inflation
rates is a tricky subject when you're talking about products that rely
heavily on leaps in technology that make developing the product faster
and cheaper - look at how much you can pick up a really good digital
camera nowadays.

DLC is just an extra (and cheap... remember; no disc printing, distribution or point of sale marketing costs [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]) way for a company to make more money.


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Keep the DLCs coming.

My only complaint is that some DLCs, like arrival, are essential to the games. Arrival makes the story on ME2 kind of useless. And if you play arrival in the middle of ME2, why on earth would I go after the Collectors if the Reapers are coming in a couple of days?

I think Arrival was a great idea. But came too late. Could have been ME2 if extended. And should never be playable before the end of ME2.

This kind of DLC mistake is what is really bad. But if they give me a good adventure to play during it; and it´s something that makes sense; and doesn't alter my perception of the main game; then it´s good. I would pay for them if I like the game. And I would also pay for more weapons, armors etc. As long as they are many. Just one change in appearance is not enough.

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Yeah well I only have 12 grand a year total in income. The developers must get way more than that so I do not feel bad for them at all. A small DLC would not take months to make. The only way it would take months is if only 1 person was working on it.

It is not childish I am 30 years old I remmeber when DLC was free. That is right on the PC many add ons were free and some still are. Take Left for Dead 2 not only was all the DLC the first game was free with it. Since it is on steam I literally do not need to even lift a finger to get it.

I can tell since Steam will begin downloading something. So when done I will start it up to see new levels in there.

I do not think it is childish at all to expect a game to give free DLC if I pre ordered it. The DLC should be free as a perk for pre ordering. A I scrath your back you scratch mine sort of thing. Though somehow Bioware has mistook the word scratch for stab. But stab is really  a metiphore for taking more from my wallet.

Also if you can't see the arrogance in what they said I am not going to try and convince you. Some people thankfully have seen it for what it is as well. The fact some get it at least is something.


Be glad you make 12k a year, because I work full-time and still make less. You think you have it rough? I'll tell you something. I don't complain about these things. My reason?

Game developers don't have it nearly as easy as you think. Consider their job:

-They have to stay on top of emerging hardware/software technologies.

-They have to meet near-impossible deadlines often.

-They have to create virtual worlds that captivate the audience.

-They have to create stories that keep players entertained for hours.

-They have to ensure that the gameplay is smooth and fun.

And many more reasons.

Now granted, some development firms make some really shoddy games that don't deserve that sort of defense, but companies like Bioware don't follow that path. Bioware has made excellent games for years, so in my mind, they more than deserve the money they make. They work hard for their money and they make quality merchandise.

Even forgetting that, you have to realize that times are changing. With new technologies being introduced into gaming, the stakes are higher. Companies are required to meet new standards in rigid time-frames. To expect them to release everything for free is childish and unreasonable. They spent the last two years making ME3, so they probably need a break. Cut them some slack...

Of course, since your pockets are so light, perhaps you should forgoe buying the game altogether. It would certainly be easier on you. I'll just hang on to my two N7 Collector's Editions... The ones I somehow managed to save up money for. While planning a wedding. And paying my tuition.

Edit: Left 4 Dead is easy to release free DLC for... They're essentially just map packs.

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Falcon509 wrote...



Of course, since your pockets are so light, perhaps you should forgoe buying the game altogether. It would certainly be easier on you. I'll just hang on to my two N7 Collector's Editions... The ones I somehow managed to save up money for. While planning a wedding. And paying my tuition.


O.O

You, sir, are a money magician. What's your major?

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CommanderCoffee wrote...

Falcon509 wrote...



Of course, since your pockets are so light, perhaps you should forgoe buying the game altogether. It would certainly be easier on you. I'll just hang on to my two N7 Collector's Editions... The ones I somehow managed to save up money for. While planning a wedding. And paying my tuition.


O.O

You, sir, are a money magician. What's your major?


History. Emphasis on US History. I'll minor in Politic Science. Formerly a 3D Animation major. I wanted to design video games, but talked to many in the field that basically told me that, while its fun, they don't have time for anything but work. I didn't think it was worth it.

I wouldn't say it's magic... I just don't spend money on things I don't need. But I treat myself to video games. Its my vice.

It also helps that I work at a store and I get employee discounts on things that I do need.
 

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CommanderCoffee

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Falcon509 wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

Falcon509 wrote...



Of course, since your pockets are so light, perhaps you should forgoe buying the game altogether. It would certainly be easier on you. I'll just hang on to my two N7 Collector's Editions... The ones I somehow managed to save up money for. While planning a wedding. And paying my tuition.


O.O

You, sir, are a money magician. What's your major?


History. Emphasis on US History. I'll minor in Politic Science. Formerly a 3D Animation major. I wanted to design video games, but talked to many in the field that basically told me that, while its fun, they don't have time for anything but work. I didn't think it was worth it.

I wouldn't say it's magic... I just don't spend money on things I don't need. But I treat myself to video games. Its my vice.

It also helps that I work at a store and I get employee discounts on things that I do need.
 


Damn. History's my second choice of major. First is Archaeology. Still, good on you and your money management.