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[Onyx 4]

CommanderCoffee wrote...

Onyx 4 wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

Onyx 4 wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

 

wat.

It's not like the appearance of a Prothean isn't...Scratch that, WASN'T one of the biggest secrets in all of Mass Effect... Oh, wait! And one I was hoping to avoid learning until I cracked the case of what-ever-the-hell he comes out of.
I will be leaving now, BioWare has crused me with this awesome ME2 profile background that has Mirandas not-so-awesome (oYo)'s on it and it can be stood for no longer on this day.
If only she was wearing her Cerberus armor on this background. Much MUCH better.

Uh, isn't Javik appearing whenever you want to buy the DLC, like a banner?

Doesn't mean it doesn't count as a spoiler for those who were hoping for an epic Cryo-case-cracking moment. I was hoping not to see what he looked like because I wanted to wait n' see.
 
Since I no longer have that as an option I feel it has been spoiled for me. (Along with his name, which I was unaware of until your post....)

Oh, damn. I'm so sorry, I'm just used to calling him that. Sorry. 

YOUR FAILURES INSULT ME.  

All joking aside, it was all just so interesting and building up tension for me. I'm sure there is still more than enough left for me to require a change of underwear to handle.

Like what new outfits our squadies will get.... I've only see the 4 in the CE and I can't wait to see the others.

Regardless of what happens,  <----- Javik. <---- I SUPPORT THIS PROTHEAN!

[moviebuff3000]

I swear. Do we really know what a real Prothean sounds like? No we dont. Do we know if Bigfoot talks or not or if Yeti's do? No. Javik is the last of his kind maybe he is learning to talk like a human so he can communicate with Shepard and Co. and he comes out sounding different. No different than any other person learning to speak another language that is not orignally their own. Deal with it and Get over it.

[Masterjokin]

i'm going to sit back and watch everyone destroy this just cause it has a prothean.. nit pick. yes... excellent.

he could come out of a uncontrolled biotic singularity breath farts, and act like robin williams, and someone would have to attack him on voice acting..

[GuyIncognito21]

moviebuff3000 wrote...

I swear. Do we really know what a real Prothean sounds like? No we dont. Do we know if Bigfoot talks or not or if Yeti's do? No. Javik is the last of his kind maybe he is learning to talk like a human so he can communicate with Shepard and Co. and he comes out sounding different. No different than any other person learning to speak another language that is not orignally their own. Deal with it and Get over it.

Again, why all the hostility?  And again, people who are not happy don't have to "deal with it."  It's their money.  If I think it's ludicrous for them to throw a Rastafarian alien in the game for no reason, then I don't have to pay.  If I think it's ludicrous to charge $10 for cut content DLC, I don't have to pay.

I don't understand the level of vitriol being directed at unhappy people.  What's it to you?  What's your interest in all this?

Even if you are just some thrall for Bioware, don't you think Bioware wants to know what their customers are thinking?  Isn't that the entire reason this forum exists?  Companies traditionally had to PAY for the kind of feedback they're getting free of charge.

Modifié par GuyIncognito21, 05 mars 2012 - 05:08 .

[GuyIncognito21]

Troller79 wrote...

To settle all of this BS about the "From Ashes" DLC Casey Hudson did an interview with VentureBeat, go to the link at the bottom to read and know that Biware has not betrayed us fans.

http://pc.gamespy.co.../1219950p1.html

Well from that we at least we know that Bioware SAYS they've not betrayed the fans, but I struggle to imagine a scenario where they'd say anything else.

If you assume this is some money-grab, it wouldn't really behoove BW to come out and say "this is some money-grab."

[Masterjokin]

exactly incognito. seems like the closer me3's release gets the more violent and radical people get towards each other. i just don't get why such a little thing puts a boulder on the road for people. look at all the giant leaps of faith you have to take to immerse yourself in the game... i dont get what all the volatism is about

Modifié par Masterjokin, 05 mars 2012 - 05:15 .

[UKillMeLongTime]

I don't care what it sounds like. I can't tell you what kaiden sounds like anymore as i've not heard it since 2007 when he died babysitting a nuke

I will have two of the three originals in my party at all times to end it wth who i started with. Liara and Ash the most and then garrus and wrex a lot, well assuming we get those options.

I doubt the proth is in mine but the mission they are acquired on

[moviebuff3000]

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

moviebuff3000 wrote...

I swear. Do we really know what a real Prothean sounds like? No we dont. Do we know if Bigfoot talks or not or if Yeti's do? No. Javik is the last of his kind maybe he is learning to talk like a human so he can communicate with Shepard and Co. and he comes out sounding different. No different than any other person learning to speak another language that is not orignally their own. Deal with it and Get over it.

Again, why all the hostility?  And again, people who are not happy don't have to "deal with it."  It's their money.  If I think it's ludicrous for them to throw a Rastafarian alien in the game for no reason, then I don't have to pay.  If I think it's ludicrous to charge $10 for cut content DLC, I don't have to pay.

I don't understand the level of vitriol being directed at unhappy people.  What's it to you?  What's your interest in all this?

Even if you are just some thrall for Bioware, don't you think Bioware wants to know what their customers are thinking?  Isn't that the entire reason this forum exists?  Companies traditionally had to PAY for the kind of feedback they're getting free of charge.

Have you even really heard the real Prothean in game or just the files from the demo? People seem to jump to conclusions even before they know the real truth. What is it to me? Well, for one thing I think that people are judging things even before they have a chance to play it and you cant always trust what you read or see on the Internet unless you see it first hand and not from someone that probably has a beef with the devs. You people complaining are like people that dont vote for a politician. What gives you the right to complain if your not going to buy it anyways? What gives a person that didnt vote the right to complain? Dont like it then dont buy. I am sure that when BW or EA sees how the sales were than they will understand what they did wrong. You people are just beating a dead horse that isnt going to change anything.

[kingsims]

I never asked for Vega, EDI, Diana Allers. And instead prothy gets cut instead of these characters. Sigh. Whats a bet that Prothy will be better than these characters.

Prothy does not exist in your game if you don't purchase the DLC and the planet for his mission is locked out (Eden Prime). This has already been confirmed by people who have the retail game.

[moviebuff3000]

kingsims wrote...

I never asked for Vega, EDI, Diana Allers. And instead prothy gets cut instead of these characters. Sigh. Whats a bet that Prothy will be better than these characters.

Prothy does not exist in your game if you don't purchase the DLC and the planet for his mission is locked out (Eden Prime). This has already been confirmed by people who have the retail game.

Your proof that the Prothean was cut is...........? A leaked script? A script that was probably re-worked like all movie scripts are? Maybe they had cut him originally but changed their minds later when they were done with the final game. Ever heard of Director's Cuts? People seem to pay extra for that. So what if he was cut, dont buy him if you dont like it. Simple as that.

Modifié par moviebuff3000, 05 mars 2012 - 07:49 .

[XSarenXArteriusX]

i was in gamestop recently paying off my PC CE version, the clerk said he didnt know if PC users got the from ashes, i am sure this has been answered, but do PC version also get it?

[moviebuff3000]

XSarenXArteriusX wrote...

i was in gamestop recently paying off my PC CE version, the clerk said he didnt know if PC users got the from ashes, i am sure this has been answered, but do PC version also get it?

Yes, all CE editions get the From Ashes DLC. The DDE get the DLC but not the phyiscal stuff.

[CommanderCoffee]

moviebuff3000 wrote...

XSarenXArteriusX wrote...

i was in gamestop recently paying off my PC CE version, the clerk said he didnt know if PC users got the from ashes, i am sure this has been answered, but do PC version also get it?

Yes, all CE editions get the From Ashes DLC. The DDE get the DLC but not the phyiscal stuff.

Actually, the only physical stuff that the DDE doesn't get is the N7 Fabric Patch, for what should be obvious reasons. Otherwise they get everything in the CE, just as downloadable versions.

[XSarenXArteriusX]

ty all who replied :-)

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

Hey, why don't we all just buy it on day two? That'll show 'em!

From what I can gather, most people's main complaint isn't actually against day 1 DLC, which we all disagree with to an extent - but mainly because it happens to be a prothean and we all want one. Being a Prothean is such a big deal and a huge part of the mass effect lore yadayada. Hell, it makes me want him more than just some other guy.

The thing is, you can't just demand it for free because you would especially like it. One of the posts a page back says something like "I am entitled to this content and refuse to pay for it", you are entitled to sweet fanny adams I am afraid.

In my last post I pointed out the similarities between this DLC and the Kasumi release, to which someone replied that Kasumi wasn't such an important role as opposed to the Prothean character. In this case, this Prothean himself is confirmed to have almost no impact on the story. There is still a galaxy wide war raging, people dying, he is just someone you meet who helps your cause. Him being a Prothean is not worked into the plot line as something essential, he doesn't tell you anything that changes the course of the game. So apart from the odd dialogue banter on different missions and cutscenes, the fact that he is a Prothean doesn't really matter in the slightest, and he is no more useful than any other downloadable character would have been, regardless of species. The only difference here is that being a Prothean makes him a more desirable person to have because of the mystery surrounding them. Bioware probably thought to themselves, what would be really cool as an extra character - that people would really like? Would you rather James Vega instead(forget for a moment that he is an integral part of the story line and as such couldn't be DLC) - 'cos I wouldn't buy him. If they took Fenris's VA and made him play a role like Balthier(FFXII) again, but as a space pirate I would pay them twice as much(as long as they didn't make him whiny and emo).

Being a Prothean may may you want him more, but that does not make him necessarily any more important to the story - people's grasp of logic really is very poor.

[miniy2j]

avmf8 wrote...

brunomalta wrote...

Oh man...you guys complain all the time. It was the same thing on Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2....

No its not the same you would get that free if you bought the game new.

Not exactly, Sebastian came with the game for free if you pre-ordered and got your edition switched to the signature edition (which at the time was free, as in that was the bonus you'd get the signature edition for the same price if you pre-ordered before a certain date) If you buy a new copy of DAII sans signature edition you have to pay 7$ price tag. If you buy the game used you have to pay the 7$ price tag. I mean bioware's already done this before. 

No offense the fact that you're poor and you spend most of your money trying to make your life on medical expenses isn't exactly a reason for bioware to cut down the price on a luxury item. It really isn't, they are trying to make a profit, it's a business. This wasn't made as CE exclusive, it was given to the CE people as a bonus, they paid more they  get more. You can argue about how that's not fair, but at the same time...why isn't it? Volition day-1 dlc was them taking core files out of the game, like actual core files and trying to force you to buy it as dlc. This isn't what bioware is doing, the Prothean is just a Prothean. It's about as important as Kasumi and Zaeed and possibly Sebastian from DAII . You don't have to purchase it to play a complete copy of the game. It's for all intensive purposes an add-on. What you do have a right to get annoyed with is the price of such dlc, which can be argued that it does come with more material than Kasumi did.

[avmf8]

K1LL STREAK wrote...

Hey, why don't we all just buy it on day two? That'll show 'em!

From what I can gather, most people's main complaint isn't actually against day 1 DLC, which we all disagree with to an extent - but mainly because it happens to be a prothean and we all want one. Being a Prothean is such a big deal and a huge part of the mass effect lore yadayada. Hell, it makes me want him more than just some other guy.

The thing is, you can't just demand it for free because you would especially like it. One of the posts a page back says something like "I am entitled to this content and refuse to pay for it", you are entitled to sweet fanny adams I am afraid.

In my last post I pointed out the similarities between this DLC and the Kasumi release, to which someone replied that Kasumi wasn't such an important role as opposed to the Prothean character. In this case, this Prothean himself is confirmed to have almost no impact on the story. There is still a galaxy wide war raging, people dying, he is just someone you meet who helps your cause. Him being a Prothean is not worked into the plot line as something essential, he doesn't tell you anything that changes the course of the game. So apart from the odd dialogue banter on different missions and cutscenes, the fact that he is a Prothean doesn't really matter in the slightest, and he is no more useful than any other downloadable character would have been, regardless of species. The only difference here is that being a Prothean makes him a more desirable person to have because of the mystery surrounding them. Bioware probably thought to themselves, what would be really cool as an extra character - that people would really like? Would you rather James Vega instead(forget for a moment that he is an integral part of the story line and as such couldn't be DLC) - 'cos I wouldn't buy him. If they took Fenris's VA and made him play a role like Balthier(FFXII) again, but as a space pirate I would pay them twice as much(as long as they didn't make him whiny and emo).

Being a Prothean may may you want him more, but that does not make him necessarily any more important to the story - people's grasp of logic really is very poor.

Kasumi was free if you bought the game new so it's different. To me it is no different if the character is prothean or not. I don't care what the DLC is day 1 DLC is not right its a flat out money grab.

Having content for just new games is kind of BS but at least its somewhat reasonable. Having DLC only being free if you bought a special edition is 100% unreasonable.

I am upset there will be a character I won't have because I do not support day 1 DLC. When I say a DLC is BS I don't buy it. I said Oblivion horse armor was BS so I did not buy it. I am using the horse armor example because its the first time I encountered DLC BS.

[JaegerBane]

GuyIncognito21 wrote...

moviebuff3000 wrote...

I swear. Do we really know what a real Prothean sounds like? No we dont. Do we know if Bigfoot talks or not or if Yeti's do? No. Javik is the last of his kind maybe he is learning to talk like a human so he can communicate with Shepard and Co. and he comes out sounding different. No different than any other person learning to speak another language that is not orignally their own. Deal with it and Get over it.

Again, why all the hostility?  And again, people who are not happy don't have to "deal with it."  It's their money.  If I think it's ludicrous for them to throw a Rastafarian alien in the game for no reason, then I don't have to pay.  If I think it's ludicrous to charge $10 for cut content DLC, I don't have to pay.

I don't understand the level of vitriol being directed at unhappy people.  What's it to you?  What's your interest in all this?

Even if you are just some thrall for Bioware, don't you think Bioware wants to know what their customers are thinking?  Isn't that the entire reason this forum exists?  Companies traditionally had to PAY for the kind of feedback they're getting free of charge.

Thats absolutely true - one of the ongoing oddities with regards to DLC in general is that people on both sides seem to act as if the DLC is a purchase that they have no say in.

That said, the most ludicrous thing I find is that people claim Prothy sounds like a rastafarian.

[delijoe]

Does anyone know if bioware points bought on BSN can be used on the origin client using the same account?

Apparently from ashes can only be bought on Origin client but I have left over bioware points on BSN...

[avmf8]

miniy2j wrote...

avmf8 wrote...

brunomalta wrote...

Oh man...you guys complain all the time. It was the same thing on Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2....

No its not the same you would get that free if you bought the game new.

Not exactly, Sebastian came with the game for free if you pre-ordered and got your edition switched to the signature edition (which at the time was free, as in that was the bonus you'd get the signature edition for the same price if you pre-ordered before a certain date) If you buy a new copy of DAII sans signature edition you have to pay 7$ price tag. If you buy the game used you have to pay the 7$ price tag. I mean bioware's already done this before. 

No offense the fact that you're poor and you spend most of your money trying to make your life on medical expenses isn't exactly a reason for bioware to cut down the price on a luxury item. It really isn't, they are trying to make a profit, it's a business. This wasn't made as CE exclusive, it was given to the CE people as a bonus, they paid more they  get more. You can argue about how that's not fair, but at the same time...why isn't it? Volition day-1 dlc was them taking core files out of the game, like actual core files and trying to force you to buy it as dlc. This isn't what bioware is doing, the Prothean is just a Prothean. It's about as important as Kasumi and Zaeed and possibly Sebastian from DAII . You don't have to purchase it to play a complete copy of the game. It's for all intensive purposes an add-on. What you do have a right to get annoyed with is the price of such dlc, which can be argued that it does come with more material than Kasumi did.

Here is the thing they do make profit even without doing stuff like that. Selling a game for $60 does make them allot of money.  To do the math selling to a million people would net them 60 million. I just used a round number as I have no clue how many peoplke will really buy the game. But I know for a fact they will sell more than a million copies. Many people from different countries pre ordered ME3 and there is over 6 billion people in this world.

I would guess ME3 would sell at least 6 million copies. That is 360 million dollars. Cant tell me they won't have a huge profit after the cost to make the game taken off of that.  The game took maybee what 10 million at most to make? To be more than fair I will say the game took 100 million to make which is more than fair since there is no way it cost that much to make.

That still leaves then with 260 million dollars.  They do not need to up the cost of gaming and ruin my and other people on a limited budgets fun for this. Day 1 DLC is not right I cant afford special editions so bioware goes and pulls this BS to try and get more money from me. Don't they get it if I had a good ammount of money to spend I would buy special editions of games.

Special editions should never get you more in game content ever. If they want to say include a special edition Mass Effect controller with the special edition that is fine. Or have say a nice trinket of a reaper destrying a section of city fine. But game content that is BS.

My point is simple if it was availiable day 1 it could be made availiable to any new purchase of the game for free end point.

Modifié par avmf8, 05 mars 2012 - 10:50 .

[gigiduru]

K1LL STREAK wrote...

Hey, why don't we all just buy it on day two? That'll show 'em!

From what I can gather, most people's main complaint isn't actually against day 1 DLC, which we all disagree with to an extent - but mainly because it happens to be a prothean and we all want one. Being a Prothean is such a big deal and a huge part of the mass effect lore yadayada. Hell, it makes me want him more than just some other guy.

The thing is, you can't just demand it for free because you would especially like it. One of the posts a page back says something like "I am entitled to this content and refuse to pay for it", you are entitled to sweet fanny adams I am afraid.

In my last post I pointed out the similarities between this DLC and the Kasumi release, to which someone replied that Kasumi wasn't such an important role as opposed to the Prothean character. In this case, this Prothean himself is confirmed to have almost no impact on the story. There is still a galaxy wide war raging, people dying, he is just someone you meet who helps your cause. Him being a Prothean is not worked into the plot line as something essential, he doesn't tell you anything that changes the course of the game. So apart from the odd dialogue banter on different missions and cutscenes, the fact that he is a Prothean doesn't really matter in the slightest, and he is no more useful than any other downloadable character would have been, regardless of species. The only difference here is that being a Prothean makes him a more desirable person to have because of the mystery surrounding them. Bioware probably thought to themselves, what would be really cool as an extra character - that people would really like? Would you rather James Vega instead(forget for a moment that he is an integral part of the story line and as such couldn't be DLC) - 'cos I wouldn't buy him. If they took Fenris's VA and made him play a role like Balthier(FFXII) again, but as a space pirate I would pay them twice as much(as long as they didn't make him whiny and emo).

Being a Prothean may may you want him more, but that does not make him necessarily any more important to the story - people's grasp of logic really is very poor.

You got it tottaly wrong. Most ppl complain about the idea of day 1 DLC , and not what it contains . 

[H1natachan]

Sadly they wont be backing down now. I just think that CE editions should contain extra artworks books/comics and other fluff for those that like that sort of stuff, and not have a dlc. The prothean character may/may not have lasting impact on M.E.3 but if what i've been reading so far that his mission takes place on Eden Prime, then surely this is a big deal to all of us who played from M.E.1 as Eden Prime like it or not was where everything began for everyone's Shepard.

Modifié par H1natachan, 05 mars 2012 - 11:17 .

[avmf8]

gigiduru wrote...

K1LL STREAK wrote...

Hey, why don't we all just buy it on day two? That'll show 'em!

From what I can gather, most people's main complaint isn't actually against day 1 DLC, which we all disagree with to an extent - but mainly because it happens to be a prothean and we all want one. Being a Prothean is such a big deal and a huge part of the mass effect lore yadayada. Hell, it makes me want him more than just some other guy.

The thing is, you can't just demand it for free because you would especially like it. One of the posts a page back says something like "I am entitled to this content and refuse to pay for it", you are entitled to sweet fanny adams I am afraid.

In my last post I pointed out the similarities between this DLC and the Kasumi release, to which someone replied that Kasumi wasn't such an important role as opposed to the Prothean character. In this case, this Prothean himself is confirmed to have almost no impact on the story. There is still a galaxy wide war raging, people dying, he is just someone you meet who helps your cause. Him being a Prothean is not worked into the plot line as something essential, he doesn't tell you anything that changes the course of the game. So apart from the odd dialogue banter on different missions and cutscenes, the fact that he is a Prothean doesn't really matter in the slightest, and he is no more useful than any other downloadable character would have been, regardless of species. The only difference here is that being a Prothean makes him a more desirable person to have because of the mystery surrounding them. Bioware probably thought to themselves, what would be really cool as an extra character - that people would really like? Would you rather James Vega instead(forget for a moment that he is an integral part of the story line and as such couldn't be DLC) - 'cos I wouldn't buy him. If they took Fenris's VA and made him play a role like Balthier(FFXII) again, but as a space pirate I would pay them twice as much(as long as they didn't make him whiny and emo).

Being a Prothean may may you want him more, but that does not make him necessarily any more important to the story - people's grasp of logic really is very poor.

You got it tottaly wrong. Most ppl complain about the idea of day 1 DLC , and not what it contains . 

I am not sure if you are OK with day 1 DLC or not but at least you get it.

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

[quote]avmf8 wrote...

[quote]K1LL STREAK wrote...

snip/quote]

Kasumi was free if you bought the game new so it's different. To me it is no different if the character is prothean or not. I don't care what the DLC is day 1 DLC is not right its a flat out money grab.

Having content for just new games is kind of BS but at least its somewhat reasonable. Having DLC only being free if you bought a special edition is 100% unreasonable.

I am upset there will be a character I won't have because I do not support day 1 DLC. When I say a DLC is BS I don't buy it. I said Oblivion horse armor was BS so I did not buy it. I am using the horse armor example because its the first time I encountered DLC BS.

[/quote]

Kasumi was not free, Zaeed was. Kasumi was created alongside the main game of Mass Effect two, but not completed until months after the main game had already been released. her voice files and others were found on the discs that we were sold, but nothing complete as it was all still in production. Like kasumi, the "From Ashes" DLC started production alongside the main game - this is to provide greater interactivity between the DLC and the main game instead of it just being tacked on - hugely important for things such as squad banter and plot moments, they cannot just leave empty spaces and hope to fill them later and acheive the same result.

The main game of Mass Effect 3 was already completed and had already been certified according to Bioware, but the release date was put back for three whole months because its initial release date coincided with other games. During this time, Bioware completed the "From Ashes DLC". The content could not be added to a game already in production, and to start production again with new content would have meant waiting for the game to be re-certified.

The content had already been advertised from the start as being included in the Collectors edition, and part of what they were paying for. To provide it for free for regular editions when the collectors editions owners already paid for their content would be very unfair. It wasn't going to be day 1 DLC, but because of the release date change it was - which is why I said think of it not as a Zaeed you have to pay for(who was the free one) but a Kasumi you got early. It is not "free" if you bought the special edition - it costs £30 more for the special edition, I didnt buy it for the shiny case alone. Nothing is free, buy-one-get-one-free at a supermarket isnt really that, you still have to pay money to get one for "free" so you have already paid for it in the price of the first item(which they increase the price of)..

The DLC is comparatively cheap too. The squad outfits alone could have been sold in packs of three like in ME2 for a greater accumulative value of the entire DLC, never mind the extra character and weapon..i understand you have little money and gaming is all you do, I dont agree with day 1 DLC either, I just wanted you to know all the facts, or claimed facts at least. There are a lot of assumptions going on on here, many of which are misplaced.

[DaJe]

K1LL STREAK wrote...

Hey, why don't we all just buy it on day two? That'll show 'em!

From what I can gather, most people's main complaint isn't actually against day 1 DLC, which we all disagree with to an extent - but mainly because it happens to be a prothean and we all want one. Being a Prothean is such a big deal and a huge part of the mass effect lore yadayada. Hell, it makes me want him more than just some other guy.

The thing is, you can't just demand it for free because you would especially like it. One of the posts a page back says something like "I am entitled to this content and refuse to pay for it", you are entitled to sweet fanny adams I am afraid.

In my last post I pointed out the similarities between this DLC and the Kasumi release, to which someone replied that Kasumi wasn't such an important role as opposed to the Prothean character. In this case, this Prothean himself is confirmed to have almost no impact on the story. There is still a galaxy wide war raging, people dying, he is just someone you meet who helps your cause. Him being a Prothean is not worked into the plot line as something essential, he doesn't tell you anything that changes the course of the game. So apart from the odd dialogue banter on different missions and cutscenes, the fact that he is a Prothean doesn't really matter in the slightest, and he is no more useful than any other downloadable character would have been, regardless of species. The only difference here is that being a Prothean makes him a more desirable person to have because of the mystery surrounding them. Bioware probably thought to themselves, what would be really cool as an extra character - that people would really like? Would you rather James Vega instead(forget for a moment that he is an integral part of the story line and as such couldn't be DLC) - 'cos I wouldn't buy him. If they took Fenris's VA and made him play a role like Balthier(FFXII) again, but as a space pirate I would pay them twice as much(as long as they didn't make him whiny and emo).

Being a Prothean may may you want him more, but that does not make him necessarily any more important to the story - people's grasp of logic really is very poor.

Id rather say your grasp of the Mass Effect story and lore is poor. If you can't see what a big deal meeting a living prothean is after vigil, the conduit and the collectors then there is not much more to discuss. 

How do you define "important to the plot"? The prothean race still plays a big role (artifacts) in ME3 and has throughout the series. How is the last witness of the previous intergalactic genocide of no relevance? The last member of the race that made sure there is a fighting chance in this cycle.