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[ediskrad327]

^african >_<

[Mercedes-Benz]

fetissimies wrote...

There's nothing wrong with a Prothean, but I think having a Jamaican and making him look like an alien is just racist.

[NeecHMonkeY]

According to people who have the game and the DLC, the Prothean is of so little importance that he doesn't speak when you bring him on missions and no one else on your crew acknowledges his existence.

Well done Bioware... well done!

You've trivialized one of the most important species of your own Mass Effect universe for the sake of having him as paid DLC.

How exactly is that considered 'one for the fans'?

Modifié par NeecHMonkeY, 06 mars 2012 - 02:08 .

[Locutus_of_BORG]

Has anyone actually gotten to play the DLC yet, now that the pre-orders are starting to make it to ppls' doors?

[Sphroth82]

Mercedes-Benz wrote...

fetissimies wrote...

There's nothing wrong with a Prothean, but I think having a Jamaican and making him look like an alien is just racist.

Heh, you got that right.  I'm suddenly think of Star Wars Episode 1, and we think we all know what that's about considering what's been said.

[avmf8]

miniy2j wrote...

avmf8 wrote...

miniy2j wrote...

avmf8 wrote...

brunomalta wrote...

Oh man...you guys complain all the time. It was the same thing on Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2....

No its not the same you would get that free if you bought the game new.

Not exactly, Sebastian came with the game for free if you pre-ordered and got your edition switched to the signature edition (which at the time was free, as in that was the bonus you'd get the signature edition for the same price if you pre-ordered before a certain date) If you buy a new copy of DAII sans signature edition you have to pay 7$ price tag. If you buy the game used you have to pay the 7$ price tag. I mean bioware's already done this before. 

No offense the fact that you're poor and you spend most of your money trying to make your life on medical expenses isn't exactly a reason for bioware to cut down the price on a luxury item. It really isn't, they are trying to make a profit, it's a business. This wasn't made as CE exclusive, it was given to the CE people as a bonus, they paid more they  get more. You can argue about how that's not fair, but at the same time...why isn't it? Volition day-1 dlc was them taking core files out of the game, like actual core files and trying to force you to buy it as dlc. This isn't what bioware is doing, the Prothean is just a Prothean. It's about as important as Kasumi and Zaeed and possibly Sebastian from DAII . You don't have to purchase it to play a complete copy of the game. It's for all intensive purposes an add-on. What you do have a right to get annoyed with is the price of such dlc, which can be argued that it does come with more material than Kasumi did.

Here is the thing they do make profit even without doing stuff like that. Selling a game for $60 does make them allot of money.  To do the math selling to a million people would net them 60 million. I just used a round number as I have no clue how many peoplke will really buy the game. But I know for a fact they will sell more than a million copies. Many people from different countries pre ordered ME3 and there is over 6 billion people in this world.

I would guess ME3 would sell at least 6 million copies. That is 360 million dollars. Cant tell me they won't have a huge profit after the cost to make the game taken off of that.  The game took maybee what 10 million at most to make? To be more than fair I will say the game took 100 million to make which is more than fair since there is no way it cost that much to make.

That still leaves then with 260 million dollars.  They do not need to up the cost of gaming and ruin my and other people on a limited budgets fun for this. Day 1 DLC is not right I cant afford special editions so bioware goes and pulls this BS to try and get more money from me. Don't they get it if I had a good ammount of money to spend I would buy special editions of games.

Special editions should never get you more in game content ever. If they want to say include a special edition Mass Effect controller with the special edition that is fine. Or have say a nice trinket of a reaper destrying a section of city fine. But game content that is BS.

My point is simple if it was availiable day 1 it could be made availiable to any new purchase of the game for free end point.

Okay 260 million dollars, take away however much they have to pay for creating the game, printing the game, sending it to be bugged, advertising, paying all the developers, the voice actors, shipping those millions of copies, it adds up, especially  since I'm sure there are more costs hidden somewhere. Buying commercial time is expensive depending on when you want to advertise and during what program. And whatever's left over, they take some of that profit and invest in another game, which might be a gigantic loss for them. Especially given the fact that people are cutting into possible profits by pirating games and what not. 

No offense, I'd rather have in game content then random ass junk that I'm not going to use. I'm sorry it's true, give me something extra in game. I don't have time to play with night vision goggles, or remote control cars, or have space for figurines or models to line my desk. And it's cheaper for game companies to just add more content to a game then it is for them to have silly little boxes filled with random ass crap that will just sit in stores. Especially with digital distrubution starting to become more popular, it's a good switch over.

I'm going to be mean here, your argument is boo-hoo, I'm poor because I have to pay for x,y,z (your reasons are valid) but in general you're acting like they should make dlc free because you personally have a good reason is not a valid business model. EA is a company, they make money so that they can continue doing what they are doing which is creating video games and whatever else it's involved with. The fact tohat people suddenly have the urge to ****** and moan at the fact that a company has realized a new way to earn cash, is beyond silly. The CE people paid more money, a part of that price went to paying for this new dlc and other EXTRA in game content. We paid for it at a reduced rate, but we still bloody paid for it. And I'm sorry and games are starting to have an influx of in game content for for Collector's editions/limited edition versions of the game. If you play WoW they've been doing this for awhile now. Collectors/limited Edition should have content that people want and I want extra in game content, the art-book and the patch and the lithograph do nothing for me except for being shiny.

If you buy the game new I believe you get access to the multiplayer without having to buy anything extra, that's what you get. Could be wrong I don't particuarly care much for the multiplayer feature, so I haven't paid to much attention to it. 

A collectors eidion should be phisical things you collect hence collectors edition. It should not contain extra in game content. There is also not many collectors editons. I could not have even pre ordered a CE copy if I even wanted one. If you did not order right when they were availiable forget it.

I do not play Wow tried it once during  afree trial played it 1 hour and was bored. At any rate I am sure Wow gives everyone acess to the entire game world no matter what version they buy. It would all be cosmetic stuff and note how I said that was OK. Want to give new looking armour with the same stats as the ones in game fine.

Want weapon skins like GOW 3 had go for it. But actual levels or characters no.

Oh and did you not read I said they made 260 after giving a generous ammout of 100 million for publishing making all of that. Yo u can't tell me it took more than 100 million to make and do all the publishing and all that.

Modifié par avmf8, 06 mars 2012 - 03:33 .

[MACharlie1]

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

According to people who have the game and the DLC, the Prothean is of so little importance that he doesn't speak when you bring him on missions and no one else on your crew acknowledges his existence.

Well done Bioware... well done!

You've trivialized one of the most important species of your own Mass Effect universe for the sake of having him as paid DLC.

How exactly is that considered 'one for the fans'?

Untrue. I know for a fact that banter exists between him and Garrus. And the leak had some great banter with Liara. 

[AxisEvolve]

fetissimies wrote...

There's nothing wrong with a Prothean, but I think having a Jamaican and making him look like an alien is just racist.

Except he's not Jamaican. Apparently hiring an African voice actor is racist?

Interesting point of view.

[Zhijn]

I dont mind day 1 dlc purchases at all like shale, zaeed ect. Infact i welcome it if it means more content. Thats just me.

But i do find this "From Ashes" to be quite a slap on the face for any long time Mass Effect fan. You gotta remember our Shepard took roots on Eden Prime, its where it all began and where we first learned of Protheans and what sparked a "who are they" for years and gods know how many characters. So i find it to be incredible bad business from EaWare to not allow such piece of lore included to gamers for free after purchase of the retail game, as a thank you for sticking with us all these years? You know.

Bah, this hole thing leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.

I do not enjoy watching the direction BioWare is taking, or has taken. Got a bad feeling of what comes next.

[MRedfield]

MACharlie1 wrote...

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

According to people who have the game and the DLC, the Prothean is of so little importance that he doesn't speak when you bring him on missions and no one else on your crew acknowledges his existence.

Well done Bioware... well done!

You've trivialized one of the most important species of your own Mass Effect universe for the sake of having him as paid DLC.

How exactly is that considered 'one for the fans'?

Untrue. I know for a fact that banter exists between him and Garrus. And the leak had some great banter with Liara. 

Don't bother trying, people freak out about everything here. First it was that he was so godly and important to the story that the DLC was a must-buy and people were mad that BioWare didn't include it on the disc. Then, people got to play it and realized that he's not a critical part to the story but does provide some bonus content (like DLC and add-ons are supposed to), so they now chastise BioWare for not making him the epic squadmate they were ****ing about in the first place.

It's a lose/lose situation here on BSN.

[Joker1117]

Modifié par Joker1117, 06 mars 2012 - 05:48 .

[SidNitzerglobin]

Any trick to actually buying this w/ points right now on XBL?

Shoulda just bought the pre-order code while I was picking up my copy @ GameStop...

[WillPF363]

You're charging $10 for day one DLC? How is this something to be excited about? And in deference to the zero tolerance policy, let me be perfectly clear when I say that the following is in no way a personal attack on any particular person, that being said: This is a dick move on a massive scale, and reeks of corporate greed.

What happened to launch DLC being free to encourage people to buy the game new? Have we given up on that policy? Am I supposed to be happy that, because I'm a true fan, you've added a new character that you want to charge me extra for? I am a true fan, Bioware, I really am, and it feels like you're trying to take advantage of that. Instead of being thrilled that ME3 is coming out in just a few hours, right now I'm mostly feeling disgusted.

[Adrenaline Junkie]

Javik is the only reason I might want ME3, but I'm not getting the game anytime soon, if at all, knowing that he's a seperate purchase from the actual game. Oh well. Better ways to spend my time than playing video games I'm sure.

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

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A collectors eidion should be phisical things you collect hence collectors edition. It should not contain extra in game content. There is also not many collectors editons. I could not have even pre ordered a CE copy if I even wanted one. If you did not order right when they were availiable forget it.

I do not play Wow tried it once during  afree trial played it 1 hour and was bored. At any rate I am sure Wow gives everyone acess to the entire game world no matter what version they buy. It would all be cosmetic stuff and note how I said that was OK. Want to give new looking armour with the same stats as the ones in game fine.

Want weapon skins like GOW 3 had go for it. But actual levels or characters no.

Oh and did you not read I said they made 260 after giving a generous ammout of 100 million for publishing making all of that. Yo u can't tell me it took more than 100 million to make and do all the publishing and all that.

[/quote]

Whilst I do love the little physical elements, the nice case, bonus DVD's, soundtracks, artbooks and trinkets - what I love most about special editions usually IS the bonus in-game content. Something as simple as an extra character skin, accessory pack, exclusive weapon etc is a great thing to have - basically anything which can enhance your in-game experience, as long as its not gamebreakingly overpowered. My ME2 collectors edition weapon and armour look awesome, and probably my fave set in the game - even though the rifle is nothing special power-wise. If the bonus mission and character were exclusive and the only way you could obtain them then I would agree that perhaps they should not be included in a Collectors edition - though I have to say it would depend on wether I could get a collectors edition or not.

The idea of owning something unique in-game that my friends have not got appeals to me, but at the same time it is horrible when I am on the other end and cannot get something I really want, however trivial it may be. Like the bonus armour for pre-ordering ME2 - I never recieved my terminus armour and weapon I was supposed to get, I was very annoyed. The N7 warfare pack has been a dissapointment this time because due to availability, I couldnt get both the pack and the collectors edition - and it especially sucks because I am buying all my friends theirs on my account and some of them are getting it. I could have just kept quiet and took it for myself but I dont screw my friends over. Shopto had a great deal where my freind is getting the pack AND a free T-shirt with his - the sod!

My Gears 3 collectors edition has a character that is otherwise unavailable unless you buy the branded console I think, but I dont think that is an issue at all because you dont get any different gameplay from it, no different story or anything. My Deus Ex: Human Revolution Augmented edition came with in-game money, experience points, four weapons, really helpful items and a mission, as well as the nice case, artbook and DVD - but the in-game stuff was also offered as pre-order incentives and eventually available on the marketplace anyway - so this wasn't a problem either as it was widely available.

I dont see why the ME3 DLC is a problem, we have already established that it wasn't supposed to be Day 1 DLC and wouldnt have been ready on its initial launch date, people who own the game have already confirmed the character barely has any input on the story, and that it was never free for collectors edition owners as they all paid for it in their extra cost of the game. If the game had come out when it was supposed to we would have got the DLC a couple of months after release, and everyone would have had to pay for it like any other, apart from the collectors editions who already have. Him being a Prothean is not a major plot-changing thing, which Bioware themselves stated initially. You are not being screwed over, the game does not cost more than any other new chart title if you buy the normal edition, and you are not being sold bits and peices of the core game in chunks for more money.

You would do me a massive favour however if you found another company who actually were doing this, as there are loads of them at the moment, and campaigned against them instead. COD Elite would be a good start.

[NeecHMonkeY]

MRedfield wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

NeecHMonkeY wrote...

According to people who have the game and the DLC, the Prothean is of so little importance that he doesn't speak when you bring him on missions and no one else on your crew acknowledges his existence.

Well done Bioware... well done!

You've trivialized one of the most important species of your own Mass Effect universe for the sake of having him as paid DLC.

How exactly is that considered 'one for the fans'?

Untrue. I know for a fact that banter exists between him and Garrus. And the leak had some great banter with Liara. 

Don't bother trying, people freak out about everything here. First it was that he was so godly and important to the story that the DLC was a must-buy and people were mad that BioWare didn't include it on the disc. Then, people got to play it and realized that he's not a critical part to the story but does provide some bonus content (like DLC and add-ons are supposed to), so they now chastise BioWare for not making him the epic squadmate they were ****ing about in the first place.

It's a lose/lose situation here on BSN.

Blame Bioware/EA for making an absolute cluster-f*** of this character and the way they announced the DLC. I'm sick to death of this crap turning gamers against other gamers.

A Prothean should be important to the game and included in the story (doesn't even have to be a squad mate), not some worthless sidekick as part of DLC.

I hate this idea of paid DLC that's actual game content available on Day 1 but if Bioware had to do it, why not make another character like Kasumi or something? Someone that doesn't matter. Why a Prothean if it's going to be so unimportant? Because it means money... plain and simple. People want to see a living Prothean and will pay an extra $10 just to get that 'privelage' no matter how worthless he actually is.

It's only because I'm such a huge Mass Effect fan that this kind of thing upsets me and I'm sure I'm not alone on that.

I won't buy this DLC at all now... not even if it's discounted because unless there is some relevance to having this character on my ship, the Prothean species will remain dead in my personal version of the Mass Effect universe.

[Ghost Down]

When will the DLC be up for download in the EU?

[avmf8]

K1LL STREAK wrote...

A collectors eidion should be phisical things you collect hence collectors edition. It should not contain extra in game content. There is also not many collectors editons. I could not have even pre ordered a CE copy if I even wanted one. If you did not order right when they were availiable forget it.

I do not play Wow tried it once during  afree trial played it 1 hour and was bored. At any rate I am sure Wow gives everyone acess to the entire game world no matter what version they buy. It would all be cosmetic stuff and note how I said that was OK. Want to give new looking armour with the same stats as the ones in game fine.

Want weapon skins like GOW 3 had go for it. But actual levels or characters no.

Oh and did you not read I said they made 260 after giving a generous ammout of 100 million for publishing making all of that. Yo u can't tell me it took more than 100 million to make and do all the publishing and all that.

Whilst I do love the little physical elements, the nice case, bonus DVD's, soundtracks, artbooks and trinkets - what I love most about special editions usually IS the bonus in-game content. Something as simple as an extra character skin, accessory pack, exclusive weapon etc is a great thing to have - basically anything which can enhance your in-game experience, as long as its not gamebreakingly overpowered. My ME2 collectors edition weapon and armour look awesome, and probably my fave set in the game - even though the rifle is nothing special power-wise. If the bonus mission and character were exclusive and the only way you could obtain them then I would agree that perhaps they should not be included in a Collectors edition - though I have to say it would depend on wether I could get a collectors edition or not.

The idea of owning something unique in-game that my friends have not got appeals to me, but at the same time it is horrible when I am on the other end and cannot get something I really want, however trivial it may be. Like the bonus armour for pre-ordering ME2 - I never recieved my terminus armour and weapon I was supposed to get, I was very annoyed. The N7 warfare pack has been a dissapointment this time because due to availability, I couldnt get both the pack and the collectors edition - and it especially sucks because I am buying all my friends theirs on my account and some of them are getting it. I could have just kept quiet and took it for myself but I dont screw my friends over. Shopto had a great deal where my freind is getting the pack AND a free T-shirt with his - the sod!

My Gears 3 collectors edition has a character that is otherwise unavailable unless you buy the branded console I think, but I dont think that is an issue at all because you dont get any different gameplay from it, no different story or anything. My Deus Ex: Human Revolution Augmented edition came with in-game money, experience points, four weapons, really helpful items and a mission, as well as the nice case, artbook and DVD - but the in-game stuff was also offered as pre-order incentives and eventually available on the marketplace anyway - so this wasn't a problem either as it was widely available.

I dont see why the ME3 DLC is a problem, we have already established that it wasn't supposed to be Day 1 DLC and wouldnt have been ready on its initial launch date, people who own the game have already confirmed the character barely has any input on the story, and that it was never free for collectors edition owners as they all paid for it in their extra cost of the game. If the game had come out when it was supposed to we would have got the DLC a couple of months after release, and everyone would have had to pay for it like any other, apart from the collectors editions who already have. Him being a Prothean is not a major plot-changing thing, which Bioware themselves stated initially. You are not being screwed over, the game does not cost more than any other new chart title if you buy the normal edition, and you are not being sold bits and peices of the core game in chunks for more money.

You would do me a massive favour however if you found another company who actually were doing this, as there are loads of them at the moment, and campaigned against them instead. COD Elite would be a good start.

But I did say a custom weapon skin is fine. It has to be just a cosmetic and slight stat differenece or it is game breaking. But a character that is important to the lore of the game is stepping out of bounds. I did actually complain big time about COD. That is my point this whole DLC thing is just getting worse.

It is just going to keep getting worse and worse.  I do care about this game. Can you not see how they are exploiting me and everyone else who likes Mass Effect? Can you not see how this DLC stuff is getting out of hand? Then again in that respect you have to have seen that to even mention that whole COD debacle.

[jd641]

I have the CE so I do get the DLC for free but I don't see it anywhere in my Origin profile or on the BSN registered content. Should it say I have it?

[avmf8]

jd641 wrote...

I have the CE so I do get the DLC for free but I don't see it anywhere in my Origin profile or on the BSN registered content. Should it say I have it?

I would gather since its a digital download you will have it.

Since it is CE it does not really have to say its there if its the CE edition its there.

[Aurica]

This is strange, I pre-ordered the CE & I was able to redeem the N7 Warfare Pack & M55 Argus.  But the code for "From the Ashes" DLC is not working.

Anyone else having this problem?

[Novolizer]

Anyone here have any idea how much the From Ashes dlc will cost in the UK (i.e. in pounds sterling). I'm still considering getting it and may just buy the code when I pick up my copy on Friday.

[super4star]

I got mass effect 3 ce xbox 360. If you could tell me how to use this code for prothean dlc I will be grateful

[ediskrad327]

super4star wrote...

I got mass effect 3 ce xbox 360. If you could tell me how to use this code for prothean dlc I will be grateful

i assume the same way all other Xbox codes are used. if not, in your registered games here on BSN there is a "promo code" section so i assume there you could type it as well

[Koross]

Aurica wrote...

This is strange, I pre-ordered the CE & I was able to redeem the N7 Warfare Pack & M55 Argus.  But the code for "From the Ashes" DLC is not working.

Anyone else having this problem?

I have the same problem. Redeemed the warfare pack and m55 argus fine. PC version here.