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[Draconis6666]

Marionetten wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Wrong. Prothy was cut out after the leak script made a ****storm. After finishing the new script they try to put it somewhere and made this DLC for CE owner.

His voice files were in the demo. He was obviously implemented into the game before it went gold.

His voice files being in the demo does not mean the character itself is done, Kasumi had voice files on the Disc but none of her character model or animation files were or any of her quest

[Marionetten]

Draconis6666 wrote...

...  just because people think they are entitlted to things.

Ah, yes. Those nasty people believing they're entitled to a quality product for their sixty dollars. They should be grateful that BioWare even allows them to purchase their AAA products.

[gabe2gg]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

gabe2gg wrote...

 Bioware fanboys are so blind its not even funny. Keep drinking the kool aid.

My case and point.  Zero contribution. 

dunno if srs? I have posted how Bioware has lied about the DLC being developed well after the game went gold when it was announced months ago that a  Prothean charecter would be part of the collectors edition but that post was soon deleted. 

[Bluumberry]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Multiplayer is the online pass, yes, but that's not the point.  Yes, it works again to encourage direct sales, but it's not the same as the multiplayer (sans servers), which is included in the game, and you are just unlocking it.  The DLC is different in that it actually has to be downloaded and developed separately than what was put into production

True it is not directly a DLC in the same sense, but it seems pretty clear that they couldn't give us a day-1 free dlc to encourage sales like before when they had the multiplayer doing that.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not. Seems pretty clear though.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

OdanUrr wrote...

Please, people, it's not the end of the world!

*Reaper lands*

Then what is THAT?

[V1per7]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Its Microsoft's fault not EA

TROLOLOL what!?!?!? xD

wow dude....get yourself some education....ffs read some wikipedia lol:blink:

[Yuoaman]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

*Pyramid collapse*

We can always change things - the Deception thread is proof of that.

 

that it is.. that it is.

I wholly supported the redaction of Deception. That book was an abomination to the Mass Effect lore and something needed to be done about it.

That said, I will say that I am not a BioWare fangirl. I am a Mass Effect fan through and through. I love this series for the deep, rich lore and characterization; I love it as one of the finest sci-fi franchises ever created. I have come out and criticized BioWare several times because I felt like they were not being true to this story in some way or another...my criticism of Deception being only one instance. I take these issues on a case-by-case basis, and in this case, I feel like this is a gross, gross overreaction.

Why? Because this squad mate was advertised as being part of the CE since summer, and if you didn't buy the CE, you knew you weren't getting the special CE DLC squadmate. Did we know he was Prothean? No, but that's beside the point. Prothy exists to provide a unique perspective on galactic history, not a necessary or plot-vital one. I'm sure someone somewhere said, "You know what would be cool? A Prothean survivor squadmate?" and thus, he was born. It's not like he was concieved as some world/galaxy-shaking plot device that the main game couldn't have done without. He's also not "trivial" just because he's DLC: he's unique. Unique enough that we can live without him, and also unique enough that he's interesting. People weren't pitching fits over this until it was revealed he'd be the DLC squad mate.

While I will admit that I was a bit disappointed he'd be the DLC squaddie, I wasn't surprised. Nor did I think that BioWare lopped off a critical part of the game just to sell it as DLC. This is DLC that was always intended to be packaged with the CE as a perk and available for purchase for SE buyers. That's that.

In all honesty, when I first found out we had a Prothean squadmate, I didn't understand why BioWare didn't let the dead stay dead. They could have easily not written in a Prothean squadmate at all without it affecting the story of the game. Now that he's available, suddenly he is pivotal to the game? If he didn't exist, I doubt any of you would be saying, "Oh come on, BioWare, give us a Prothean because he'll be integral to the plot! The Protheans are an important race! They should be in the game!"

The Protheans have been dead for 50,000 years...50,000 years too late to be any crucial help beyond the Ilos research team. 50,000 years too late to make any real difference in this Reaper War.

This is where I'll have to disagree - I believe if they're going to havea Prothean squad mate then they should let ever fan appreciate it, no matter how much money they spent for their copy of the game.

Modifié par Yuoaman, 23 février 2012 - 02:12 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

Bluumberry wrote...

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Bluumberry wrote...

Takamori The Templar wrote...

Bluumberry wrote...

Maybe you need reading glasses to understand the point.

Just like we were given free day-1 DLC before, now we get free multiplayer instead.

No I got it, damn man, you are sad.

How so? I'm just stating how it is.

Would you have preferred them to make the multiplayer have an additional fee in exchange for getting the prothean dlc for free? I wouldn't.

Did Call of Duty , Gears of Wars or w/e
Charge for their Multiplayers?
Nope.

You are just making yourself an idiot.

Did COD and similar games start out as singleplayer games?

I wonder which of us is starting to look like the idiot.

Holy mother of derp.

[Guywhoiam]

Right or wrong, I don't care. I don't come onto these forums to read nothing but angry posts. People on both sides are are both right and wrong. They all have points. I, for one, am sick of this crap and am leaving. Goodbye, BSN.

[ArkkAngel007]

T_l_M_B_0 wrote...

This thread is 98% nerdrage over-reactions, and 2% logic.

I see nothing wrong with this. As someone who was unable to preorder the CE because everywhere is sold out, this makes me happy that they are even allowing a previously CE exclusive DLC to be obtained by someone with the SE.

No idea where all this selfentitlement is coming from. ME3 is a full game, and likely a great one, whether you purchase this DLC or not, so calm the f*ck down everyone. I would love for this to be free, so then I wouldn't have to pay for it, but Im perfectly fine with shelling out another $10 for this.

$10 is a bit steep compared to the total game you payed $60 for, and this could have been handled better.

But yes, most of this is just people on the internet being people on the internet.

[austinsj82]

Monochrome Wench wrote...

I think some people are missing the point that certification takes a very long time. You can not make any changes to the game during certification. However if you want you to be doing something during certification you can make DLC.

So what happens is this
1) Content is designed for main game
2) Decided that some content can not be finished and still keep release date
3) Least important/most separable content is decided not to be finished for inclusion on the disc
4) The removed content is finished during the main products certification/manufacturing
5) Its released Day 1 as DLC

So it was in the game originally, but was not finished as it makes more business sense not too finish it before gold if then can finish it after gold.

Of course it could have been in the game but would have just delayed the game further. Sure the fans wouldn't have cared, but the people in charge of financials do. The game is already late.

No, you've missed the point. This is included in the collectors edition, which launches on the same day as the standard edition so it isn't a case of it wasn't ready, they just want to slam you for another 10 bucks if you haven't bought the collectors edition. I'm not going to lie, i first heard of this from TB's video on the subject, and he put it eloquently. EA/Bioware should do the decent thing here and do what they did with the Zaeed pack and making it available to everyone who buys it new.

[Bendok]

I think the worst part of this whole thing is that you actually think some of us will believe that the Prothean only went into development after the game went into certification (a matter of weeks ago). People have seen the leaked script, we've seen and heard the Prothean dialogue files included with the demo. I'm sure we'll find the dialogue in the final game as well.

It's quite obvious it was going to be part of the game originally and not PDLC.

Pre-order NOT cancelled. Way too invested in this series. Just don't expect me to jump in head first with the next Bioware franchise blindly like I have with everything since KOTOR.

Modifié par Bendok, 23 février 2012 - 02:14 .

[ROBERTJMYERS2]

i just want to make sure i understood.is the prothean squadmate and mission the one in the collectors edition or is that one different.i preordered the collectors edition and wanted to make sure.p.s. prothean squadmate yaaaaaay!!!!!

[Moonshadow_Dark]

V1per7 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Its Microsoft's fault not EA

TROLOLOL what!?!?!? xD

wow dude....get yourself some education....ffs read some wikipedia lol:blink:

And even if it was Microsoft's fault, why would you be surprised?

Windows 98 anyone?

Oh let me guess you were all born in 2000, right?

[Niemack Saarinen]

V1per7 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Its Microsoft's fault not EA

TROLOLOL what!?!?!? xD

wow dude....get yourself some education....ffs read some wikipedia lol:blink:

If you get your education off of wikipedia then i feel sorry for you.

[V1per7]

53 pages in and they are still ignoring this....

they are blinded by money and these biofans are blinded by their words....

1995-2012 rip bioware

[wolfman391]

 LOL you lot need to get a life or go out more in to the real world. I'v been gaming for over 20 years and I'm all most about to give up on coming to this forum as all I see day-in, day-out is a lot of BS from you lot how this is not right or this is unfair.

Forum are a place were we talk about the game and get info and Dev can give out info and try and keep us in the loop with new and bits. This forum is a part of Biowere that they offer to you for free and this is how you treat them you all make me sick, You all are lucky that they do not pull the plug and shut down the froum as I would of a long time ago.

If you do not like it that you have to pay for DLC then don't buy it, A true fan will pay for it, Some years ago I payed $10 for a $1 coin with star trek on it. Why as i'm a fan if this DLC was $20(£15) I would still buy it Why same as before I'm a fan. 

[Adain878]

Heres the problem, They did one of two things. Either the DLC is like zaeed, a short tacked on character and quest. In which case its doing a huge disservice to the character, plot, and Mass Effect universe. Or its like Shale, a fully integrated character with important plot significance. If thats the case its a giant FU to every fan of the game. You'll be missing out on very significant and most likely epic moments unless you give us more money, trololol...

And you wonder why people are PO'd about this. They are either asking you to bend over, or just not giving a crap about the universe.

[Draconis6666]

Marionetten wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

...  just because people think they are entitlted to things.

Ah, yes. Those nasty people believing they're entitled to a quality product for their sixty dollars. They should be grateful that BioWare even allows them to purchase their AAA products.

Yes they should Games are not a necessity they area  luxury good. They should be grateful that anyone bothers to make games for them to play at all. If they dont want to spend their money on a game that is their choice as consumers it does not entitle them to everything they want simply because they have money and spend it on something.

[Ruthac_Arus]

T_l_M_B_0 wrote...

This thread is 98% nerdrage over-reactions, and 2% logic.

I see nothing wrong with this. As someone who was unable to preorder the CE because everywhere is sold out, this makes me happy that they are even allowing a previously CE exclusive DLC to be obtained by someone with the SE.

No idea where all this selfentitlement is coming from. ME3 is a full game, and likely a great one, whether you purchase this DLC or not, so calm the f*ck down everyone. I would love for this to be free, so then I wouldn't have to pay for it, but Im perfectly fine with shelling out another $10 for this.

That was refreshing. And looks statistically accurate too. Way too much wailing and gnashing of teeth going on in here. I'd enjoy the hell out of ME3 with or without the Prothean squaddmate. As it happens, I bought the N7 Edition, and helped several other upgrade to it. Please, take my money Bioware for giving me many *awesome* gaming experiences. If you want to be heard, don't buy the bloody DLC if you're *really* that much against this business practice.

[Nauks]

Would have been hilarious if they'd decided to add say Kinect support as day 1 DLC, and then see just how few people actually bothered buying it.

[V1per7]

Niemack Saarinen wrote...

V1per7 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Its Microsoft's fault not EA

TROLOLOL what!?!?!? xD

wow dude....get yourself some education....ffs read some wikipedia lol:blink:

If you get your education off of wikipedia then i feel sorry for you.  

i think you miss understood. you really gotta make me explain it? you ruined the fun

he is so dumb, just by reading some wiki pages, he will gain some IQ...there...what a killjoy [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sleeping.png[/smilie]

Modifié par V1per7, 23 février 2012 - 02:16 .