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nitsaj

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Lord Irvine wrote...


One Character=/=Core Part of the Game


actually...this statement is true if one of the characters are canon. If you cut out shep from the entire game...that does equal core. If you cut out any of the crucial supporting cast, then you screwed with the core part of the game. I suppose if anything you can only question if the "optional character" is a supporting cast or an addition character.

Is he a Zaeed/kasumi/Legend (doesn't change anything story or interaction) or Liara from ME2 (a temp character) or ash/alenko in ME3 (core but not necessary) or a permanent member like Wrex tali from one or miranda or thane from 2)

I would personally put him in core by not necessary. Which would still means it's a core part of the game.

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mud2 wrote...

Rorschachinstein wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

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Chunk? These forums represent less than 1% of their actual fanbase and sales and it is only a smaller percent of that complaining. He said he does not intend to buy the product therefore he is not a customer but a potential one. With regard to potential ones, you will never please everyone all of the time and they do not make games for 'you' or 'me' but everyone who 'likes' what they make. If you do not like what they make it is more beneficial for you to buy something else you do enjoy instead.


http://boards.4chan....v/res/132301605


Care to explain why linking that proves anything just because contains some people whining who may also be the same people in here doing such? Does that change that the less than 1% of customers Bioware has are ones who complain on these forums? No is the answer. Does it change that they shipped over 3.5million copies in such short period of time? No again. Does it show that you may hang out in the biggest trolling location on the internet (4chan)? Maybe.


Do you want more links. To Forbes articale perhaps. Maybe the youtube comments? Maybe the video showing that shi practice is bull?

Oh and shipping isn't really selling.


Watch out man, those are critici- i mean "trolling" comments. Keep that logic out of here.

/sarcasm


Yeah, those jokers at Forbes are giant trolls I tell you what. :P

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Dragoonlordz

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Rorschachinstein wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rorschachinstein wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Chunk? These forums represent less than 1% of their actual fanbase and sales and it is only a smaller percent of that complaining. He said he does not intend to buy the product therefore he is not a customer but a potential one. With regard to potential ones, you will never please everyone all of the time and they do not make games for 'you' or 'me' but everyone who 'likes' what they make. If you do not like what they make it is more beneficial for you to buy something else you do enjoy instead.


http://boards.4chan....v/res/132301605


Care to explain why linking that proves anything just because contains some people whining who may also be the same people in here doing such? Does that change that the less than 1% of customers Bioware has are ones who complain on these forums? No is the answer. Does it change that they shipped over 3.5million copies in such short period of time? No again. Does it show that you may hang out in the biggest trolling location on the internet (4chan)? Maybe.


Do you want more links. To Forbes articale perhaps. Maybe the youtube comments? Maybe the video showing that shi practice is bull?

Oh and shipping isn't really selling.


Add every single reply from every single link you can find and it will still not equal more than 1% of the 3.5million copies shipped so far. I very much know the difference between shipped and sold and there is no publisher that records "sold" by retailers because not all (even most retailers) do not supply them with that information so they rely on how many the retailers order from them instead aka shipped. Shipped is an indication of demand. People have tendency to rely on the shipped vs sold argument and stance when they know things are not going their way, the last line of self defence in retaliation to how successful a product is but greatly flawed in it's use to counter because they do not know how many of those shipped were sold. The retailer however will end up paying for most if not all of those shipped products so they still equal a sale more often than not by a vast margin.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 11 mars 2012 - 11:01 .


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Dragoonlordz wrote...

mud2 wrote...

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Why did you repeat or more accurately spam the same reply twice? I guess I was right about your trolling or baiting then at this stage if can't even be bothered to write anything new other than spam the same identical replies. Might I suggest you cool your head if you wish to debate and talk to others as not only are you copy and pasting the same replies spamming now the thread but your typing has gotten very much worse and aggressive. If want a response to something you said then I suggest you lose the attitude problem first.


Didnt quote it the first time properly, deleted the first one and posted it again. Also nice job not actually replying to the post, lol. Thanks for proving me right. I honestly do not care if you respond to my post or not, since you have already proven in all your previous posts that you are blatant fanboy that cant respond to logical criticisms. I am actually quite relaxed, it seems to me you are quite worked up about me criticising this game, and havent come up with one logical reply so far. Keep it up.

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This DLC is giant insult to people who bought a preorder of the Standard edition, bought from ashes, and witness this travesty

Modifié par Rorschachinstein, 11 mars 2012 - 11:06 .


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mud2 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

mud2 wrote...

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Why did you repeat or more accurately spam the same reply twice? I guess I was right about your trolling or baiting then at this stage if can't even be bothered to write anything new other than spam the same identical replies. Might I suggest you cool your head if you wish to debate and talk to others as not only are you copy and pasting the same replies spamming now the thread but your typing has gotten very much worse and aggressive. If want a response to something you said then I suggest you lose the attitude problem first.


Didnt quote it the first time properly, deleted the first one and posted it again. Also nice job not actually replying to the post, lol. Thanks for proving me right. I honestly do not care if you respond to my post or not, since you have already proven in all your previous posts that you are blatant fanboy that cant respond to logical criticisms. I am actually quite relaxed, it seems to me you are quite worked up about me criticising this game, and havent come up with one logical reply so far. Keep it up.




Forgot to mention, for a person criticizing my writing for getting "very much worse" you could have just written it as "it has gotten worse". I would prefer you keep writing criticism out of this if your own writing abilitiy is terrible. I apologise if my correcting you is "TROLLING" like you so aptly like to describe it.

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Dragoonlordz

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Rorschachinstein wrote...

This DLC is giant insult to people who bought a preorder of the Standard edition, bought from ashes, and witness this travesty


I did that and no it was not. It was an opportunity to get what the CE owners paid for at a reduced price of SE+DLC.

They never said SE would ever come with it, they did say CE would, I preordered the CE which got cancelled due to heavy demand outstripping supply and instead of trying to gain another CE when GAME could not supply I instead went with SE+DLC for much cheaper price for same content I was originally pre-ordering the CE for in first place.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 11 mars 2012 - 11:14 .


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Lord Irvine

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nitsaj wrote...

Lord Irvine wrote...


One Character=/=Core Part of the Game


actually...this statement is true if one of the characters are canon. If you cut out shep from the entire game...that does equal core. If you cut out any of the crucial supporting cast, then you screwed with the core part of the game. I suppose if anything you can only question if the "optional character" is a supporting cast or an addition character.

Is he a Zaeed/kasumi/Legend (doesn't change anything story or interaction) or Liara from ME2 (a temp character) or ash/alenko in ME3 (core but not necessary) or a permanent member like Wrex tali from one or miranda or thane from 2)

I would personally put him in core by not necessary. Which would still means it's a core part of the game.


That's taking it out of context, but I see your point. I won't know till next weekend, when I get the game. But I'm expecting a Zaeed/Kasumi type of character. Besides, isn't ME3 the last of the series, at least where Shepard is concerned(considering I have seen things that support a continuation of the franchise, pertaining to the universe)?

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mud2 wrote...

mud2 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

mud2 wrote...

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Why did you repeat or more accurately spam the same reply twice? I guess I was right about your trolling or baiting then at this stage if can't even be bothered to write anything new other than spam the same identical replies. Might I suggest you cool your head if you wish to debate and talk to others as not only are you copy and pasting the same replies spamming now the thread but your typing has gotten very much worse and aggressive. If want a response to something you said then I suggest you lose the attitude problem first.


Didnt quote it the first time properly, deleted the first one and posted it again. Also nice job not actually replying to the post, lol. Thanks for proving me right. I honestly do not care if you respond to my post or not, since you have already proven in all your previous posts that you are blatant fanboy that cant respond to logical criticisms. I am actually quite relaxed, it seems to me you are quite worked up about me criticising this game, and havent come up with one logical reply so far. Keep it up.


Forgot to mention, for a person criticizing my writing for getting "very much worse" you could have just written it as "it has gotten worse". I would prefer you keep writing criticism out of this if your own writing abilitiy is terrible. I apologise if my correcting you is "TROLLING" like you so aptly like to describe it.


The fact you have resorted to personal attacks before I even mentioned trolling or baiting shows how immature you truly are. There is no viable discussion to have with someone who has already lost and resorted to such methods because they are on the back foot already. If you cannot counter my points without insults and personal attacks then it is better to walk away with what little dignity you may have left if any hence why I said you need to cool off before debating or continuing the discussion.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 11 mars 2012 - 11:15 .


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Rorschachinstein

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rorschachinstein wrote...

This DLC is giant insult to people who bought a preorder of the Standard edition, bought from ashes, and witness this travesty


I did that and no it was not. It was an opportunity to get what the CE owners paid for at a reduced price of SE+DLC.

They never said SE would ever come with it, they did say CE would, I preordered the CE which got cancelled due to heavy demand outstripping supply and instead of trying to gain another CE when GAME stopped could not supply I instead went with SE+DLC for much cheaper price for same content I was originally pre-ordering the CE for in first place.



javik actually being in the game, and being forced to pay for access is ludacris. And then ignoring your fans and treating them like idiots doesn't help either.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

mud2 wrote...

mud2 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

mud2 wrote...

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Why did you repeat or more accurately spam the same reply twice? I guess I was right about your trolling or baiting then at this stage if can't even be bothered to write anything new other than spam the same identical replies. Might I suggest you cool your head if you wish to debate and talk to others as not only are you copy and pasting the same replies spamming now the thread but your typing has gotten very much worse and aggressive. If want a response to something you said then I suggest you lose the attitude problem first.


Didnt quote it the first time properly, deleted the first one and posted it again. Also nice job not actually replying to the post, lol. Thanks for proving me right. I honestly do not care if you respond to my post or not, since you have already proven in all your previous posts that you are blatant fanboy that cant respond to logical criticisms. I am actually quite relaxed, it seems to me you are quite worked up about me criticising this game, and havent come up with one logical reply so far. Keep it up.


Forgot to mention, for a person criticizing my writing for getting "very much worse" you could have just written it as "it has gotten worse". I would prefer you keep writing criticism out of this if your own writing abilitiy is terrible. I apologise if my correcting you is "TROLLING" like you so aptly like to describe it.


The fact you have resorted to personal attacks before I even mentioned trolling or baiting shows how immature you truly are. There is no viable discussion to have with someone who has already lost and resorted to such methods because they are on the back foot already. If you cannot counter my points without insults and personal attacks then it is better to walk away with what little dignity you may have left if any.


Hah, again you proved me right, my post was on topic and you still havent replied to it with any logical opinions. Averting the actual topic through ad hominem attacks. It seems to me that you dont actually have a reply and are just trying discourage me from posting. Dignity? Buddy this is about a video game, not a moral or ethical dilemma. Again you label my game criticisms as trolling, utterly pathetic. I suggest 2 things: improve your writing skills and also come up with an acutal reply instead of labeling me as a troll, when you yourself are a thoughtless fanboy. 

Go ahead prove me right again, and make me laugh at you.

Modifié par mud2, 11 mars 2012 - 11:21 .


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If I recall correctly, the same thing happened with Kasumi, no?

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http://www.youtube.c...v=zRRpGlmtws8#!

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BiO_MaN wrote...

If I recall correctly, the same thing happened with Kasumi, no?


It was just a non functional model with Kasumi, here its a fully functional character that can be used in game.

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Rorschachinstein wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rorschachinstein wrote...

This DLC is giant insult to people who bought a preorder of the Standard edition, bought from ashes, and witness this travesty


I did that and no it was not. It was an opportunity to get what the CE owners paid for at a reduced price of SE+DLC.

They never said SE would ever come with it, they did say CE would, I preordered the CE which got cancelled due to heavy demand outstripping supply and instead of trying to gain another CE when GAME stopped could not supply I instead went with SE+DLC for much cheaper price for same content I was originally pre-ordering the CE for in first place.



javik actually being in the game, and being forced to pay for access is ludacris. And then ignoring your fans and treating them like idiots doesn't help either.


If it is locked, downloaded one day one or two months later he is not in game. He is not in game because they never sold the game with him present as intended to be 'playable' without resorting to either changing the game files or buying and downloading the rest of the mission and content which was just short of 600Mb. As I said what they sold me and everyone else is the game without him present/playable as the product on offer. What they offered is what you buy and are entitled to. If you do not like unlocking content or downloading DLC either day one or at a later date then that may be your preference but your did not pay for him when bought the SE even if he is on the disc. It's not a hard concept to grasp.. Product advertised/offered=What you paying for. Simple as that.

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Please see Mike Gambles update on this issue here


LOCKDOWN!



:devil:

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how to i buy from ashes dlc and intregate it in my standard edition pc game. please explain in detail.

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Who opened this thread?

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:D

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havoc_the_evil wrote...
how do i buy from ashes dlc and intregate it in my standard edition pc game. please explain in detail.

I would like to know that as well... ??

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havoc_the_evil wrote... how to i buy from ashes dlc and intregate it in my standard edition pc game. please explain in detail.


I changed my Identity to Sherlock "Freaking" Holmes... :) And I found it out!
1. Open Origin
2. Choose "My Games" (Or something like that, I have Finnish version, so I dont know)
3. Right Click at Mass3
4. Choose "Show Game information" (or something like that)
5. Right side of the "Topic" Mass Effect 3 it says something like "Buy extra content...."

Br. Mr Sherlock (Fin)

Modifié par Peiper, 06 avril 2012 - 05:04 .


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IMO, after playing this DLC, it's not nearly long enough to be worth ten dollars. Lair of the Shadow Broker it is not.