Muklol wrote...
DarthSquishie wrote...
I find it funny how some people don't realize how a business works. I'm going to shock people with this I know...a business is out to make money! O.O
Yes and do you know who has the money ? The customers, so pissing them off too many times is bad for buisness
Bluko wrote...
Draconis6666 wrote...
Or instead they could be allowing people who wish to pay for it ,to experience a character that just as easily no one could have had because he wasnt finished at the time of certification.
Again you think a year was not enough time to add him in? (Nevermind that they are probably complete "files" for the Prothean Character on the game discs.) Those of us who have made an effort to check here regularilyhave basically known there was going to be an additional Prothean Character. I am honestly surprised those of us who have known haven't been outright banned. But I suppose that could cause an even bigger ruckus trying to cover up deceptive marketing. I was hoping they'd re-consider this honestly, but apparently they haven't.
I suppose it's good thing they used the word "certification" as that meaning can be pretty ambiguous. But the fact is this is just plain and simple shady business. It does not make me proud to buy anything from Bioware or EA. Quite the opposite actually.
It'd really be no differentthen me leaving all the screws off something, and then telling you that if you wanted the complete product you'd have to pay me extra for the specialized screws I made. Except I forgot to mention that I had excluded the screws on purpose. And hey if you don't mind Bioware/EA charging you more, well good for you.
But to me it is totally absurd to to think a Prothean character can be considered optional. This either indicates:
A) His exitence is completely trivial and serves no purpose nor makes any sense within the context of ME3. (In which I might actually be glad I won't have it.)Or his existence is actually a pretty big deal so anyone who just buys a regular/used copy of the game ever is essentially missing out on something pretty important.
jkflipflopDAO wrote...
The bottom line here is that they've pissed off a large number of their audience. If Vega was the extra day 1 guy, no one would care. But its a FREAKING PROTHEAN! A)Even if in some way the fact that he is a Prothean isn't that important (as you sad little apologists keep spewing) and B)Thats a MAJOR spoiler that would have made a great surprise later in the game. Now we all know there's still living Protheans.
Modifié par fropas, 23 février 2012 - 05:23 .
TheOptimist wrote...
Calians wrote...
Rather I think it's increasing.TheOptimist wrote...
Calians wrote...
I wonder how many times this game will be pirated..
Just as many times as it would have been 2 days ago, would be my guess.
I rather think it's not. Pirates find excuses to be pirates, because they're convinced that they're entitled to the fruits of others labor for free.
Don't get me wrong, at the start of ME trilology I completely loved it, ran through the game probably 9 times then waited for ME:2. Still I bought the CE and got all the DLC for it. Did I love the content? Yes. Was it worth my money? Possibly not, never really bothered with it. But DLC on the launch day wheras you need to pay $10 is kind of a lame thing to do. I pre-ordered ME:3 CE and will continue on to get it. But most likely the last game I get unless they somehow turn this around with DA:3Shatterhand1701 wrote...
Calians wrote...
When your a pirate you always winShatterhand1701 wrote...
Gibb_Shepard wrote...
I'm very proud of the internet. BW's greed is the biggest story on N4G at the moment. And with TB backing up a boycott, it's looking good.
For....who, exactly? For the people willing to boycott a game for having to pay for optional content?
Alrighty, then. You're all winners, I guess.
Maybe. I'd just rather support the people who put hours and hours of work into the making of the game and show my appreciation by spending money on it. I know that sounds cliched, and it's not like I haven't downloaded a fair amount of stuff in my time, but for this, I'm making an exception. It just means that much to me, I guess. They gave me an amazing story with captivating characters. Just seems fair. *shrugs*
Modifié par Calians, 23 février 2012 - 05:24 .
Modifié par Evilelf007, 23 février 2012 - 05:25 .
Zu Long wrote...
Any number of people? Pretty sure there were only two. Me and Saren...and I'm pretty sure Saren was on the other team. No Shepard, no saved galaxy in ME1, Vigil = useless.
As I said- If I needed tactical advice on how to give someone else a shot to beat the Reapers, I'd ask the prothean. For beating them right now, I have doubts on how much more advice he'll have than "kill them."
Modifié par gabe2gg, 23 février 2012 - 05:24 .
jkflipflopDAO wrote...
The bottom line here is that they've pissed off a large number of their audience. If Vega was the extra day 1 guy, no one would care. But its a FREAKING PROTHEAN! A)Even if in some way the fact that he is a Prothean isn't that important (as you sad little apologists keep spewing) and B)Thats a MAJOR spoiler that would have made a great surprise later in the game. Now we all know there's still living Protheans.
Draconis6666 wrote...
Your opinon of what is the full game is not valid in this instance for anyone but yourself. Bioware decides what is "The full Game" and that is what is given to you in the package. You deciding that you need additional content is your decision not theirs and not something that entitles them to give it to you for free simply because you believe it is important to your gaming experience.
DifferentD17 wrote...
Zu Long wrote...
http://www.masseffec...out/collectors/
Technically it even says "Additional downloadable mission and characters." Wonder if we get more than one?
But yeah, that line has been included on the CE page since it was announced.
Finally some proof out side this forum, though it's still not a product page. I didn't see "characters" So I assume the dog doesn't count as a character?
Zu Long wrote...
Actually it remained in the line at the bottom the entire time. There was also the news releases at the time, the Mass Effect Wiki, and the topic of who the extra character would be was all over the forum. If you didn't know, you really weren't paying attention.
Draconis6666 wrote...
jkflipflopDAO wrote...
The bottom line here is that they've pissed off a large number of their audience. If Vega was the extra day 1 guy, no one would care. But its a FREAKING PROTHEAN! A)Even if in some way the fact that he is a Prothean isn't that important (as you sad little apologists keep spewing) and B)Thats a MAJOR spoiler that would have made a great surprise later in the game. Now we all know there's still living Protheans.
Subjective claim that cannot be substantiated you have no numbers on how many people are actualy upset and how many have cancled pre-orders The number of regular users on this forum is not even enough to equal a large portion of their customer base.
Modifié par jkflipflopDAO, 23 février 2012 - 05:27 .
Bluko wrote...
Draconis6666 wrote...
Or instead they could be allowing people who wish to pay for it ,to experience a character that just as easily no one could have had because he wasnt finished at the time of certification.
Again you think a year was not enough time to add him in? (Nevermind that they are probably complete "files" for the Prothean Character on the game discs.) Those of us who have made an effort to check here regularilyhave basically known there was going to be an additional Prothean Character. I am honestly surprised those of us who have known haven't been outright banned. But I suppose that could cause an even bigger ruckus trying to cover up deceptive marketing. I was hoping they'd re-consider this honestly, but apparently they haven't.
I suppose it's good thing they used the word "certification" as that meaning can be pretty ambiguous. But the fact is this is just plain and simple shady business. It does not make me proud to buy anything from Bioware or EA. Quite the opposite actually.
It'd really be no differentthen me leaving all the screws off something, and then telling you that if you wanted the complete product you'd have to pay me extra for the specialized screws I made. Except I forgot to mention that I had excluded the screws on purpose. And hey if you don't mind Bioware/EA charging you more, well good for you.
But to me it is totally absurd to to think a Prothean character can be considered optional. This either indicates:
A) His exitence is completely trivial and serves no purpose nor makes any sense within the context of ME3. (In which I might actually be glad I won't have it.)
Sargerus wrote...
Its hilarious that ppl are thinking : "Lets boycott ME3 to teach EA/BW a lesson!"
ME3 will sell like water in the middle of the desert.
Every end of a trilogy sells A LOT, here are some examples:
Halo 3
Modern Warfare 3( hopefully MW4 will not happen) They have announced Black Ops 2
Spiderman 3
Transformers 3
SW: Return of the Jedi
Lotr: Return of the King
Boycott or not. ME3 will sell A LOT. BW/EA have nothing to be worried about.
Kreidian wrote...
Bluko wrote...
*snip*
Have you made a full AAA gaming title like Mass Effect from start to finish? Do you know what it takes to develop such a title and actually ship it? Do you know how much goes into a full development cycle? Do you know how much planning is required? Have you ever worked seriously for any length of time within the video game industry?
I have.
I can tell you that 'certification' is not remotely ambiguous. It takes time and it is very specific.
I can tell you that planning ahead, even a year in advance, even for a DLC, is not only part of creating a game, but also very smart on Bioware's part. Because development for DLC like this is just not that simple, even though the majority of developement for it actually happens after the main content is locked down. If they had not planned ahead there would be no DLC at all for the game until months after release. At which point YOU would be complaining about the lack of DLC.
Planning ahead is part of pre-production, not core development.
Don't make outlandish comparisions and assumptions about things when you have NO CLUE about how they actually work.
Evilelf007 wrote...
I can't believe people are up in arms over something that was advertised as part of the CE of the game since last fricking june!
Zu Long wrote...
DifferentD17 wrote...
Finally some proof out side this forum, though it's still not a product page. I didn't see "characters" So I assume the dog doesn't count as a character?
You don't see "characters"? It's right there at the bottom of the giant banner for the video, underneath "ALSO INCLUDES"
Sargerus wrote...
Its hilarious that ppl are thinking : "Lets boycott ME3 to teach EA/BW a lesson!"
ME3 will sell like water in the middle of the desert.
Every end of a trilogy sells A LOT, here are some examples:
Halo 3
Modern Warfare 3( hopefully MW4 will not happen)
Spiderman 3
Transformers 3
SW: Return of the Jedi
Lotr: Return of the King
Boycott or not. ME3 will sell A LOT. BW/EA have nothing to be worried about.
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