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[Merix]

With the leak and subsequent announcement of Day 1 DLC for $10 I call upon everyone to boycot this game! Wasting development time to produce content to be payed for extra on day 1 is an EXTREMELY shady business practice and it won't stop untill we make a stand. I am calling out for everyone to boycot ME3 for this reason. We NEED to send them a message that we won't be exploited by refusing to buy one of their high budget AAA games or this trend will continue! Join me in NOT purchasing ME3!

[Stanley Woo]

As long as discussion within this thread remains civil, it can remain open.

[Merix]

Stanley Woo wrote...

As long as discussion within this thread remains civil, it can remain open.

Thank you for this. I am not trying to incite trolling here, just making a stand. I enjoy your games, and from what I have seen ME3 is going to be an incredible game. Thats the thing with making a stand however, you have to give up something too.

[Tsiolkovsky]

Ya know, I would be perfectly fine with this DLC...as long as it is made free to all. Not being able to access it without paying is rather akin to buying a car, and then being told "Door locks are extra, trollolol." A damn PROTHEAN is not something that should be relegated to mere DLC. For heaven's sake, one of the overarching aspects of the Mass Effect mythos is "What happened to the Protheans?" You don't cut out the equivalent of the Rosetta Stone to make a couple bucks. For shame, EA/Bioware.

[Carez]

Another call for boycott from TotalBiscuit :

Modifié par Carez, 23 février 2012 - 02:25 .

[Bad Sandwidge]

My wife and I have cancelled our pre-orders. I kind of hate that it's come to this but these practices have been getting progressively worse over the last few releases and while I've resisted for a long time I'm just going to have to say no more. Obviously I'm not happy about it, I've been looking forward to ME3 for months, replayed both ME and ME2 in the last couple of weeks to prepare, spent way too much time on the multiplayer demo... but enough's enough.

[GBF]

I see nothing shady about this business practice. People sure like to be indignant about things, don't they? You realize, this could've been left as collector's edition-exclusive DLC and not released to people that bought the standard edition at all, right?

Anyone who boycotts this game over $10 in DLC that was developed after the full game was submitted for certification is being melodramatic, and/or possibly has some entitlement issues. Enjoy not playing a game you want to play in order to advance your cause, though. I can guarantee there are a thousand people buying it in blissful ignorance for every one that takes a stand.

[Africancheesecube]

Being jerks to customers generally isn't a good business practice. Ubisoft has no pc market because of it, and Valve can reap the benefits of the pc market because of it.

This optional character dlc is the only one of its kind from bioware that was not made free for all preorders. They could have just as easily stuck a dlc code or make it available if you register the game, but they didn't. Frankly, that's crap. If you don't understand why I and others feel that way then fine. It has nothing to do with a sense of entitlement, nothing to do with being melodramatic, we would just like to buy a new game and not have to pay extra to actually get the entire game.

So, while I am not boycotting the game because of this (I was never going to play it) I can certainly understand why others want to.

Modifié par Africancheesecube, 23 février 2012 - 05:23 .

[GBF]

But you're getting a new game. What is it that you think you're being deprived of? You can spend $10 at launch and get a character and mission that weren't completed when the final game shipped for certification for pressing, and isn't essential in any way to completing the game. Everything about your post screams entitlement. Your second paragraph can be summed up as "Bioware could've easily made the Prothean pack free, but instead they decided to charge $10. That's crap!"

[lakdav]

The only problem i can see is that it is ready and finished at day 1 and you need to pay for it. Being ready means it was developed and finished along with the game itself. The fact that you need to pay for it makes it feel like you are paying for a part of the game as a bonus. I can perfectly understand the negativity towards this.

Basicly if this goes on, we might end up with games having only a basic main plot, and the choice to get all side-quests as DLC. My problem with this is that the base game will still cost the full price of today's games (games with a main plot and many side-quests), and the fact that side-quests are quite essential to a game that is trying to develop a sense of commitment to the game's world.

What do i mean by this? My personal experience: I never got to play Bringing down the Sky becouse of my country's stupid translation-specific market for ME1. In ME2 i hear about this incident of Terra Nova in the news, but do i care? Not at all. Its the same as the Blasto commercial, just not funny. No importance, no effect. Imagine if in ME1 you cant play the Cerberus side-quests, only if you pay for it extra. The game itself would suffer from this later, becouse in ME2 you would not care about being with Cerberus, greatly reducing the sense of conflict and thus weakening the story.

On the other hand, speaking as someone who pre-ordered Collector Edition, i am kinda glad to get something for that extra money i will pay. Thats purely personal though, and basicly i dont like the idea of having much extra software in a collector edition. Just give us some pretty art books, posters, maybe a model Normandy, a few aesthetic armor modifications in-game, and i would still get the collector edition.

[Paul Rodney]

is the DLC included in the CE?

[corporal doody]

mhmmm......my question is...will the day 1 DLC be FREE to those that purchase a NEW copy of ME3 (similar to the Zaaed dlc)? IF so....I HAVE NO ISSUE with it.


now if Bioware EVER picked up the habits of Capcom (which Square Enix has been using as of late) THAN I WILL BOYCOTT the company. I refuse to purchase anything Capcom makes until they fix their practices...but i dont see that happening anytime soon...so the loss is mine.

Modifié par corporal doody, 23 février 2012 - 08:27 .

[corporal doody]

also...it since it was revealed way back when to be included in the CE version.....I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT. those of us that preordered the CE will get it..but it isnt like we are getting it for free! it IS a incentive to get the CE. you decide not to....you gotta get it separate with from the vanilla copy.. and it is OPTIONAL.

[NasChoka]

I think this dlc is included in the n7 edition. If you didn't order a n7 me3 and change your mind you can buy this dlc. Nobody forces you to buy dlcs

[GODzilla]

I wonder how much BiowEAre still cares about their franchise, story- and gameplay-wise. This DLC together with the latest novel - full of errors - hints towards "not so much". Which makes me a little sad. Yes of course Bioware is entitled to make money with this, but it also seemed as if they're very proud to have created this universe. And now they're flushing it down the toilet?

[Rotkiv7]

I personally would not care about some minor bonus mission like "Warden's Keep" in Dragon Age or general cosmetic extras, however, demanding an extra payment for what basically has to be a plot/lore-essential character goes too far.

My problem is that I really want to know how this trilogy ends, the same thing is true for every loyal fan I guess and Bioware/EA know that. I would sign a mass-boycot, i wont do so however if I got the feeling the same thing happens, that did with the COD-boycots i.e. everyone buying the game anyway. At the very least this day 1 dlc will stop me from buying future Bioware titles that use the same practices.

Modifié par Rotkiv7, 23 février 2012 - 10:06 .

[Spectre_Moncy]

I think it's wrong I want to know why we have to pay for it

[Moro200]

Nope I would never deprive myself of a game I have been looking forward to playing. Besides I'm getting the collectors eidtion so I don't have to pay anything extra to get this DLC..
Think of it this way, You are merely paying for content which is included in the CE.
Why should you get it for free?. I really don't see the problem here.

[loungeshep]

Mmmm....no.....I"m not going to boycott anything or cancel my CE preorder.

NOW! If I were buying it say months from now then I probably wouldn't get the DLC until I had extra money or something.

But yeah, no boycotting here.

[Carez]

If I don't want to miss a huge part of the game with a very important character, I am forced to take collector's edition. It should be a choice and not an obligation.

[Lyrionz]

Clueless people who dont see the problem with this are outright laughable. Bioware and EA is taking out finished content and putting it out as dlc for everyone except those who buy CE edition. Now most are probably thinking "hey, this has been done before, why is this time so special?", simply because they are taking out important plot content that they KNOW people want to see. Its disgusting exploitive behaviour of one of their biggest franchises and add to the fact that its the third "last" game in a trilogy.

I sure as hell wont buy ME3 at release and if I want to buy it I sure as hell will make sure its a used copy. If this is the future for Bioware then they will never EVER get a single dollar from me again.

Modifié par Lyrionz, 23 février 2012 - 01:17 .

[GioNaps]

I must be the only person who is completely indifferent to the whole thing. I will spend the $10 or whatever it is to download it and play it. Am I being screwed over to greedy business tactics? perhaps, but I purchased every other DLC for the past 2 games (except Pinnacle Station) without a second guess and enjoyed every single one, so for now one more wont hurt. Just my thought.

[DarkGin87]

Im getting the CE so im not bothered to be honest, though i do feel they have made the CE feel cheap, with ME2 they never allowed the ME2 CE armour go onto xbox live marketplace but with ME3 they are allowing all the CE DLC on the marketplace,

[Dark_Knight_2K]

Yes, its a prothean, but come on; its gotta be a clone grown in a lab or something. Its not going to have a detailed backstory to it or anything, its just another hired gun.

[cbeck002]

I'm officially putting my name on the boycott list, with regrets.I, for one, agree with Merix. I have very much enjoyed Bioware's games over the last few years, but EA's marketing strategies I feel are incredibly underhanded and disrespectful to the fan community. To any moderators or employees actually reading these posts I urge you not to ignore them. I would like to succinctly state the issues I have with this business model which have lead to my current cancelling of my planned Mass Effect 3 purchase:

Origin: I believe that competition is a good thing and that, implemented properly, Origin and Steam should be worthwhile competitors for a common market. However, EA has failed to implement their proprietary service in any profound way. As it stands now, Origin seems as though it is being strong-armed in by EA by withholding titles from Steam users and I (along with many others) feel this is unacceptable. Rather than using this tactic please consider ideas like initiatives for new members (free DLC, one discounted purchase, etc.) or something to build good relations with your consumer rather than insulting them by saying you respect their choices while forcing them to use Origin if they wish to play games.

Secondly, day one "DLC:" If software pertaining to the main experience of a title is developed along side and is ready for release at the same time as the title itself then I do not consider it an add-on. I feel it is yet another underhanded tactic to nickel and dime your customer to get the full experience from their purchase. This is not good business; it communicates to me that you do not respect my intelligence or my patronage. Please consider at the very least making this content available free of charge to early adopters of the title.

I would very much like to play Mass Effect 3 and am extremely interested in giving you my business but, as a company you need to be willing to meet your market half way. Give this game a release to fans playing on Steam and I may consider myself more inclined to purchase downloadable content. Respect my choice as a consumer to do what I want with the money I work hard to earn and I guarantee you will see more of it spent on products that carry the EA/Bioware label. A reply to these concerns would be appreciated but action would be appreciated more.

Sincerely,
A Disappointed Fan