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[GBF]

theflib wrote...

People in this thread: http://kotaku.com/58...ss-effect-3-dlc

This is so true.

[brichristensen132]

DLC should never contain things that enhance the plot or lore of the main story line. We don't exactly know what the details of this DLC are going to be but having this certain squad mate as a character is kind of a big deal. The only way I could see it not being a big deal is if during the main story you end up meeting other people that are similar to this squad mate. You could talk with them and interact and find out about them. Maybe even get them to be part of the team that helps take back earth. If this is the case, then having this squad memeber probably won't end up being as big a deal as everyone is thinking.

I think if Bioware/EA wants to at least gain my support back they should come out and say that this will not be a major part of the lore. If it is a big part, then I am going to be boycotting this game for sure.

I understand that the used game market is hurting companies like Bioware and EA. I know that the prices of games haven't changed in a long time and due to inflation, companies aren't making as much from selling games as they used to.

If it had been handled correctly, I feel like Bioware/EA could have gotten away with telling people that ME3 is going to cost a little more than usual. Bioware should have come out months ago with a statement saying that ME3 is going to have a lot more content and that if you have to sell the game for $60 then you are gonig to have to cut out some major parts of the game that would take away from the experience. Then you say that you are going to be charging $65/$70 for ME3 but with the price increase you will be getting new content. This would be when you announce that you are adding co-op multiplayer to the game and show a trailer to get people excited for it. Tell people that this game is going to have more campaign missions and better stories. If Bioware had done this I would be willing to pay more for my game. I appericate a business that tries to be honest and is open with decisions that they know will be hard for their customers to hear. This however feels like they are trying to trick you into spending more money for the game.

I really hope I'm wrong about all of this cause I would like to continue to support Bioware in their excellent games, however if what everyone is assuming is correct, then I will not be purchasing this game.

[Rasofe]

Collective boycott is an assault on the free market.
If people are dissapointed with the business practices of Bioware, they have the right to not purchase the product as wished. What is unnecessary is to try to make it some kind of group effort. Nothing ever good ever comes out of such endevours.

[jojojojojoasdfasdfw]

^ Apparently has never heard of SOPA.

[Reorte]

Rasofe wrote...

Collective boycott is an assault on the free market.
If people are dissapointed with the business practices of Bioware, they have the right to not purchase the product as wished. What is unnecessary is to try to make it some kind of group effort. Nothing ever good ever comes out of such endevours.

You've certainly got the right avatar.

[Rasofe]

Thanks!
What's SOPA?

[graciegrace]

Day One DLC is a blight, I agree. But in this particular case, I don't think they're doing anything wrong. The DLC was always announced for the CE. Giving it away to the SE for free is completely unfair to those who paid more for the CE. Giving away any of the CE content for free defeats the purpose of the CE. They have EVERY right to charge for it.

[GBF]

People keep forgetting that the freebie incentive to buying the game new this time around is not a character, but a mode. Multiplayer is the Zaeed-equivalent this time around, and it's a lot more interesting than a single character. That people want even more for free just annoys me. Could be because I'm shelling out for the collector's edition, and people want a major part of it for free, while I have to pay extra.

[GBF]

Modifié par GBF, 25 février 2012 - 12:11 .

[Rasofe]

Bioware is not entirely forthcomming about their motives. However, we can rest assured that they have only our best interests at heart.

[expanding panic]

Rasofe wrote...

Bioware is not entirely forthcomming about their motives. However, we can rest assured that they have only our best interests at heart.

Not sure if your being sarcastic (sarcasium doesn't show well on the internet. I learned that the hard way) Which I hope you are. And what they have at heart just like any other company is makeing a lot of money. Im onto you Bioware and any other company out there

[GBF]

Whoa, look out guys, we got a detective here. He discovered the sickening conspiracy behind businesses - they're out to make MONEY.

[DarkNova50]

Well, Bioware explained in this interview that the DLC was produced after the final game was already 'finished.' They were in the process of bug-fixing, manufacturing and the like when they made the DLC in question, so they couldn't really add it in at that point.

Logistical concerns aside, Bioware is a company. As much as I'm sure they want people to be happy with their games, they're still trying to make money. Besides, nobody is saying you MUST buy this DLC; in previous Mass Effect and Dragon Age games, the optional, DLC based companions have never really been central to the main story in any way.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

[Violation of Rule #2 removed]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 29 février 2012 - 01:11 .

[Nomen Mendax]

Rasofe wrote...

Thanks!
What's SOPA?

http://en.wikipedia....line_Piracy_Act 
The Act was postponed following widespread criticism.  

[MrnDvlDg161]

I wouldn't exactly promote SOPA dead.... there's already shadow versions of it sneaking into huge bills --- before you know it, it will be signed into law, probably thrown into some Debt bill or a approation for Education.

.... and as you know, you can't vote against more money for our beloved educational system will you? That would be STEALING from the CHIIIllllddreeeennnn!!!!

[MrnDvlDg161]

I don't know, it seems there's a boycott everywhere for every major game company these days... unfortunately, I too believe it will be a passed cloud of gass compared to those who would just go ahead and buy.

Especially for you folks canceling your CE's --- there's a horde of people waiting to snatch those once they get put back into the market.

[Kiara]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

If you want to waste years of game time and enjoyment over a DLC character (who is not required for a perfect ending and adds virtually nothing new to the existing story) then more power to your loss. I bought the last two games, tailored my Shepard to Paragon Perfection and enjoyed the ride. I'm seeing this through to the end. I don't need a Prothean squadmate. No one does really. Unless he has a Reaper Self destruct button in his hand when you pick him up, he is completely useless in the long run. Just another guy who wants to ride on your coat tails as you save the galaxy.

I totally agree, I am saying it here and I will likely say it again, DLC's add content to the orginal full game, If ME3 is anything like the others you will get 30 hours of game play to start. A prothean would be really cool to have if you are a fan of the series. But not essantial, beating some Reapers behinds and taking earth back it the whole point yes? 

Heck none of us have even played it yet other then the Demo.

It is your loss guys, I am still looking forward to launch date, where I will wait to hear if the $10.00 DLC is worth getting if so I will get. No didn't get the CE,  I am Happy with Standard and picking and choosing the DLC's if I want them. 

[Rasofe]

I did watch TotalBiscuits episode on this topic. The points are all valid, but only if you care.
In my opinion this just means that Mass Effect 3 costs 10 dollars extra. If you don't want to buy Mass Effect 3, you can buy a similar game without an important plot point 10 dollars cheaper.

It's like giving you the option to buy something cheaper than the whole product, not forcing you to pay extra for the whole product. You should always be allowed to buy a Ferrari but without doors or missing the steering wheel, in case you decide you don't need it.

Modifié par Rasofe, 25 février 2012 - 04:05 .

[Phoenix_Claw]

I thought this forum said no spoilers? Damn, thanks guys...

I'd rather boycott you lot and buy the dlc...

[Augoeides]

Whatever the content on the game disc/data that you purchased, that is the full game, everything aside from that is additional. It doesn't matter how critical or important you view what's on the disc and what additional content is because that is ultimately irrelevant. If it comes with your standard un-bonusized purchase of Mass Effect 3 it is part of and THE full game experience and thus you got exactly what you paid for.

If however you continue to feel that without Extra Content 'X' you miss out on the full game experience then the issue lies not with Bioware but rather with your perceptions of what constitutes that experience and what exactly your purchase of Mass Effect 3 entitles you to.

[Merix]

Augoeides wrote...

Whatever the content on the game disc/data that you purchased, that is the full game, everything aside from that is additional. It doesn't matter how critical or important you view what's on the disc and what additional content is because that is ultimately irrelevant. If it comes with your standard un-bonusized purchase of Mass Effect 3 it is part of and THE full game experience and thus you got exactly what you paid for.

If however you continue to feel that without Extra Content 'X' you miss out on the full game experience then the issue lies not with Bioware but rather with your perceptions of what constitutes that experience and what exactly your purchase of Mass Effect 3 entitles you to.

I feel entitled to everything avaliable developed from start to release date. If they charge for DLC on day 1 I find that unethical and extremely greedy. That is the reason we need a boycot. EA won't stop until we say that we've had enough.

[Yate]

I'm signing this.

Don't think I can say anything that hasn't already been said.

But I would like to promise BioWare/EA that if they promise all ME3 DLC will be free, I'll immediately pre-order it.

Customer loyalty is more valuable than breaking up your game and selling it piecemeal, and I intend to prove it.

[Rabbidsquirrel88]

As long as the DLC is on par with Arrival or lotsb, who cares. I'll pay them for it.

I'd feel cheated if the basic game gave us a 6 hour, poorly written piece of Doo like Lucas arts did with The Force Unleashed 2... But as long as I'm mashing buttons for 24-30+ hours for a single play through, I'm happy.

DLC is a fantastic thing. It keeps a game fresh for longer.
I for one, will not boycott it.

[Yate]

Rabbidsquirrel88 wrote...

As long as the DLC is on par with Arrival or lotsb, who cares. I'll pay them for it.

I'd feel cheated if the basic game gave us a 6 hour, poorly written piece of Doo like Lucas arts did with The Force Unleashed 2... But as long as I'm mashing buttons for 24-30+ hours for a single play through, I'm happy.

DLC is a fantastic thing. It keeps a game fresh for longer.
I for one, will not boycott it.

The issue here is that they're not using DLC to make the game last longer. They releasing the DLC at the same time as the game. They're not keeping it fresh, they're just trying to soak up as much money as possible.