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#51
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‘Are Cerberus allies?' 'I gotta get some more of those.'

Excuse me? Can anyone shed some light on this without spoilers? I thought Cerberus were full villains in ME3.

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Ah, well. Not like it was promised.

Going to miss the Mako and the skyboxes, though.

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No vehicles? Then ME3 is already fail to me, as I can already now point to something that could have been added instead of Kinect support and multiplayer, which aren't wanted or necessary.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Read the actual article, people. It does not say no vehicles.


i know, people are just to lazy to actually click the link and slowly read.



i personally dont care if veichles are in or not honestly 


seeing as they are hey cool more fun for me  but just to say it if it wasnt for me its no big loss

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misleading thread title causes a sensation on BSN

and in breaking news the sky is blue

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Tazzmission wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

eh game will be fun and besides this is ww2 in space guys so you cant just expect to go hunting for artifacts wile worlds are being invaded


Its a video game. So do you support zero sidequests?...zero dialogue?. Nothing but rushign rushing rushing on the main quest to stop the Reapers? Helllll to the no.

Unless your playing COD


You can get off your soapbox now.


Don't like what I said? Counter it, or say nothing. Don't spam




and where did i say i never support sidequests? yea buddy keep making crap up because you got some delusion complex going on in your head


Delusional? You're the one "dudz its like ww2 there isnt time for that!" as if its real or something. Not my fault you can't put 2 and 2 together. If you want to use completely pointless reasononing to prefer they leave out features then what else would you prefer they leave out? sidequests? dialogue?




did i specifically say leave out diolauge? if i did please by all means show me. otherwise shut up


your once again twisting what i have said around you nutjob


You didn't need to say that for someone to assume you might be in favor of leaving it out given what you had said about it being WW2 and no time. But funny to see how immature you are and that you are incapable of just restating your opinion clearly instead  of having to resort to childish tactics and insults right off the bat. Its hilarious how mad you are just because I said.....wait...what did I say?

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Terror_K wrote...

No vehicles? Then ME3 is already fail to me, as I can already now point to something that could have been added instead of Kinect support and multiplayer, which aren't wanted or necessary.


*sigh*  Credulity seems to be the order of the day.

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Sooo nobody else sees them adding vehicles in like ME2 as DLCs that mean nothing in main story, I do. So it goes like this...
BioWare: Lets bring back vehicles in ME3
EA: No they are not need, focus on Multiplayer

BioWare: Lets have a Prothy SquadMate in the main game
EA: No it is not needed, focus on Multiplayer

BioWare: Hey what about the Trail of Shepard of as an openning
EA: No it's not needed, Focus on Multiplayer

BioWare: Hey why are we focusing on Multiplayer so much?
EA: Because ME is a TPS not an RPG, an Multiplayer is our cash cow with all the Map Packs we are going to make.

Modifié par Eragondragonrider, 23 février 2012 - 01:18 .


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PHub88 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

eh game will be fun and besides this is ww2 in space guys so you cant just expect to go hunting for artifacts wile worlds are being invaded


Its a video game. So do you support zero sidequests?...zero dialogue?. Nothing but rushign rushing rushing on the main quest to stop the Reapers? Helllll to the no.

Unless your playing COD


You can get off your soapbox now.


Don't like what I said? Counter it, or say nothing. Don't spam




and where did i say i never support sidequests? yea buddy keep making crap up because you got some delusion complex going on in your head


Delusional? You're the one "dudz its like ww2 there isnt time for that!" as if its real or something. Not my fault you can't put 2 and 2 together. If you want to use completely pointless reasononing to prefer they leave out features then what else would you prefer they leave out? sidequests? dialogue?




I'm going to stop right here, and give you an argument. 

non-story reasoning for no vehicles?(which, by the way, was NOT said in the article. vehicles were not mentioned, not vehicles were confirmed non-existent)
People complained about Mako, and then complained more about the Hammerhead. Bioware decided "okay, fine, clearly we don't know what fans want when it comes to vehicles, so lets cut our losses and just revamp the exploration system in a differen way".

Bam, they came up with scanning planets for resources and materials needed to resolve quests on other planets(which is a very RPG-like feature, in my opinion) as an alternative to give the fans something cool to do on the side.

Story-wise? Yes. We're in the middle of an all-out galactic war™, and frankly Shepard would be a fool to be artifact hunting(unless it were a reapon or resource against the reapers) while the Reapers are giving the galaxy the old one-two.

You see, you seem to represent the opponent to the "mindless shooter kiddy" AKA "pretentious RPG elitist douchebag".

Frankly, I don't know which side is worse.

Tl;Dr

Stop arguing, ME3 is going to be awesome, deal with it.

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Unato wrote...

misleading thread title causes a sensation on BSN

and in breaking news the sky is blue


Hehe, that was good for a chuckle. Image IPB

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Eragondragonrider wrote...

Sooo nobody else sees them adding vehicles in like ME2 as DLCs that mean nothing in main story, I do. So it goes like this...
BioWare: Lets bring back vehicles in ME3
EA: No they are not need, focus on Multiplayer

BioWare: Lets have a Prothy SquadMate
EA: No it is not needed, focus on Multiplayer

BioWare: Hey what about the Trail of Shepard of an openning
EA: No it's not needed, Focus on Multiplayer

BioWare: Hey why are we focusing on Multiplayer so much?
EA: Because ME is a TPS not an RPG, an Multiplayer is our cash cow with all the Map Packs we are going to make.


There's so much lack of intelligence in this post that I don't even know what to see.

There has been MANY illustrations of how ME3 is more RPG than it's predecessor, and how features have been improved IN ADDITION to multiplayer.

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It's funny how people are bashing each other over news that isn't even mentioned in the article that the OP posted. There is no source that says vehicles will not be in the game.

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Catsith wrote...

‘Are Cerberus allies?' 'I gotta get some more of those.'

Excuse me? Can anyone shed some light on this without spoilers? I thought Cerberus were full villains in ME3.


That was the best hint to come out of that article - that for people who are pro-Cerberus (or at least don't want them treated as full on villains), there is hope that the organization can be allied with/salvaged.

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Mendelevosa wrote...

It's funny how people are bashing each other over news that isn't even mentioned in the article that the OP posted. There is no source that says vehicles will not be in the game.


Get your logic out of here. This is the BSN, and we don't need such antiquated concepts around these parts.

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People there isn't mention that vehicles will not be in me3.

Modifié par shepard1038, 23 février 2012 - 01:21 .


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Damn, no awesome Mako/Hammerhead hybrid!

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Bioware have yet to do a high quality vehicle. I would prefer to not have them rather than unfun sequences. I like vehicle gameplay to break up the norm, but my expectations are more like the vehicles from half life 2 and how they integrate into normal gameplay. The last action sequence of episode 2 where you stop the stalkers destroying the base may well be the best action level in the history of computer games. Both the Mako and Hammerhead were completely superficial in comparison, and in fact in comparison to the core gameplay of ME2.

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I'm sad they arn't included, but I was already used to the idea of no exploration. I personally hated the no autosave portion of the ME1 sidemissions, but they had a little more content per mission.

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Mendelevosa wrote...

It's funny how people are bashing each other over news that isn't even mentioned in the article that the OP posted. There is no source that says vehicles will not be in the game.


I know, I feel my sanity slowly slipping away... :pinched: Maybe a thread lock not just for bickering going on, but misleading and misinformation given by OP would (imho) justify such too.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 23 février 2012 - 01:22 .


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BSN has to be a case study for psychologists.

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KainrycKarr wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

eh game will be fun and besides this is ww2 in space guys so you cant just expect to go hunting for artifacts wile worlds are being invaded


Its a video game. So do you support zero sidequests?...zero dialogue?. Nothing but rushign rushing rushing on the main quest to stop the Reapers? Helllll to the no.

Unless your playing COD


You can get off your soapbox now.


Don't like what I said? Counter it, or say nothing. Don't spam




and where did i say i never support sidequests? yea buddy keep making crap up because you got some delusion complex going on in your head


Delusional? You're the one "dudz its like ww2 there isnt time for that!" as if its real or something. Not my fault you can't put 2 and 2 together. If you want to use completely pointless reasononing to prefer they leave out features then what else would you prefer they leave out? sidequests? dialogue?




I'm going to stop right here, and give you an argument. 

non-story reasoning for no vehicles?(which, by the way, was NOT said in the article. vehicles were not mentioned, not vehicles were confirmed non-existent)
People complained about Mako, and then complained more about the Hammerhead. Bioware decided "okay, fine, clearly we don't know what fans want when it comes to vehicles, so lets cut our losses and just revamp the exploration system in a differen way".

Bam, they came up with scanning planets for resources and materials needed to resolve quests on other planets(which is a very RPG-like feature, in my opinion) as an alternative to give the fans something cool to do on the side.

Story-wise? Yes. We're in the middle of an all-out galactic war™, and frankly Shepard would be a fool to be artifact hunting(unless it were a reapon or resource against the reapers) while the Reapers are giving the galaxy the old one-two.

You see, you seem to represent the opponent to the "mindless shooter kiddy" AKA "pretentious RPG elitist douchebag".

Frankly, I don't know which side is worse.

Tl;Dr

Stop arguing, ME3 is going to be awesome, deal with it.


This is in response to me? lmao what?

First of all I don't care if there is a war and neither does %90 of the other people who will play ME3. No one is going to rush through the game on purpose for the sake of a war that ISNT REAL neither would Bioware be as ridiculous to design it in a manner that requires you to rush. Second, artifacts? Why are you talking about that? Vehicle missions can be anything...in ME1 no one gave you those missions it was respresented as you just stumbling upon them while out doing a mission. But again convenient if being opposed to vehicles to asssume anybody for them stricly wants to hunt artifcacts. Elitist? Why? Because I MENTIONED COD? lmao get real.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

No vehicles? Glad to hear it.


^ this

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didymos1120 wrote...

Read the actual article, people. It does not say no vehicles.


What Ray describes are the artifacts in the asset list.  Essentially there is no reason why they would put vehicles in as everything is done by scanning.

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Look at the bright side:
It looks funnier than mineral scanning.

Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 23 février 2012 - 01:24 .


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Dragoonlordz wrote...

aksoileau wrote...

Vehicles kind of sucked m8.


You think so? As for myself I loved the Mako and I liked the vehicles aspect. From what I understood from what just read you still might have vehicles in ME3, you still use them to travel on the planets surfaces (on rails or more linear dependent on where are impression I got) but those surfaces are more linear and not open expanses and maybe it is different for every other planet visit. I saw nothing that said they do not exist in that.

It is sad to see 'scanning' still exists in such a heavy form though from what I could interpret.



Ok, I guess sucked is kind of extreme, how about underwhelming?  The vehicles were pretty cool, but their utilization was a little off.  Probably due to the repetition of the material presented.

I enjoyed Halo's use of vehicles, they were integral to the mission.  Now I'm not saying I want Halo stuff in ME but you can see how the use of vehicles in that series were game changers and not dry.  Just my opinion though!