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[PHub88]

KainrycKarr wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

eh game will be fun and besides this is ww2 in space guys so you cant just expect to go hunting for artifacts wile worlds are being invaded

Its a video game. So do you support zero sidequests?...zero dialogue?. Nothing but rushign rushing rushing on the main quest to stop the Reapers? Helllll to the no.

Unless your playing COD

You can get off your soapbox now.

Don't like what I said? Counter it, or say nothing. Don't spam

and where did i say i never support sidequests? yea buddy keep making crap up because you got some delusion complex going on in your head

Delusional? You're the one "dudz its like ww2 there isnt time for that!" as if its real or something. Not my fault you can't put 2 and 2 together. If you want to use completely pointless reasononing to prefer they leave out features then what else would you prefer they leave out? sidequests? dialogue?

I'm going to stop right here, and give you an argument. 

non-story reasoning for no vehicles?(which, by the way, was NOT said in the article. vehicles were not mentioned, not vehicles were confirmed non-existent)
People complained about Mako, and then complained more about the Hammerhead. Bioware decided "okay, fine, clearly we don't know what fans want when it comes to vehicles, so lets cut our losses and just revamp the exploration system in a differen way".

Bam, they came up with scanning planets for resources and materials needed to resolve quests on other planets(which is a very RPG-like feature, in my opinion) as an alternative to give the fans something cool to do on the side.

Story-wise? Yes. We're in the middle of an all-out galactic war™, and frankly Shepard would be a fool to be artifact hunting(unless it were a reapon or resource against the reapers) while the Reapers are giving the galaxy the old one-two.

You see, you seem to represent the opponent to the "mindless shooter kiddy" AKA "pretentious RPG elitist douchebag".

Frankly, I don't know which side is worse.

Tl;Dr

Stop arguing, ME3 is going to be awesome, deal with it.

This is in response to me? lmao what?

First of all I don't care if there is a war and neither does %90 of the other people who will play ME3. No one is going to rush through the game on purpose for the sake of a war that ISNT REAL neither would Bioware be as ridiculous to design it in a manner that requires you to rush. Second, artifacts? Why are you talking about that? Vehicle missions can be anything...in ME1 no one gave you those missions it was respresented as you just stumbling upon them while out doing a mission. But again convenient if being opposed to vehicles to asssume anybody for them stricly wants to hunt artifcacts. Elitist? Why? Because I MENTIONED COD? lmao get real.

I think you should probably get real, as you obviously did not read my post, or simply did not comprehend its meaning. THEY. DID. NOT. SAY. THERE. WERE. NO. VEHICLES.

And no duh you don't care it's a war; hence why I gave a design reason and a STORY reason. 

Stop posting until you have re-educated yourself in the art of reading and literary comprehension.

You need to take your own advice about comprehension. I'm talking to someone else about insulting comments and dialogue and sidequests being out. Then you respond to me like I have been going on a tirade about Vehicles, when I have not been. It's like you quoted the wrong person or something.

Well actually cheeseburgers are whats supposed to be in the game!!! They did NOT say cheeseburgers would not be in the game. See they added in Cheeseburger scanning yada yada. Wtf? huh? Why you telling me this?

[KainrycKarr]

DrwEddy wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

"You have to scan the planets to find key objectives,"


Wonderful.

Depends on what scenario. Do we scan the planets for side missions or finding more areas to be playable in multiplayer?

It sounds like you're simply scanning planets to find missions to obtain resources/materiel.

[Eragondragonrider]

Hey isn't there a game play video some where out there, where Shepard is in the back of some vehicle shooting guns at a Reaper ship on a planet?

[DrwEddy]

KainrycKarr wrote...

DrwEddy wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

"You have to scan the planets to find key objectives,"


Wonderful.

Depends on what scenario. Do we scan the planets for side missions or finding more areas to be playable in multiplayer?

It sounds like you're simply scanning planets to find missions to obtain resources/materiel.

You mean war assets?

[Aaleel]

Eragondragonrider wrote...

Hey isn't there a game play video some where out there, where Shepard is in the back of some vehicle shooting guns at a Reaper ship on a planet?

It didn't look like you were controlling the vehicle though.  Just looked like Shepard was on the gun.

[KainrycKarr]

PHub88 wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

eh game will be fun and besides this is ww2 in space guys so you cant just expect to go hunting for artifacts wile worlds are being invaded

Its a video game. So do you support zero sidequests?...zero dialogue?. Nothing but rushign rushing rushing on the main quest to stop the Reapers? Helllll to the no.

Unless your playing COD

You can get off your soapbox now.

Don't like what I said? Counter it, or say nothing. Don't spam

and where did i say i never support sidequests? yea buddy keep making crap up because you got some delusion complex going on in your head

Delusional? You're the one "dudz its like ww2 there isnt time for that!" as if its real or something. Not my fault you can't put 2 and 2 together. If you want to use completely pointless reasononing to prefer they leave out features then what else would you prefer they leave out? sidequests? dialogue?

I'm going to stop right here, and give you an argument. 

non-story reasoning for no vehicles?(which, by the way, was NOT said in the article. vehicles were not mentioned, not vehicles were confirmed non-existent)
People complained about Mako, and then complained more about the Hammerhead. Bioware decided "okay, fine, clearly we don't know what fans want when it comes to vehicles, so lets cut our losses and just revamp the exploration system in a differen way".

Bam, they came up with scanning planets for resources and materials needed to resolve quests on other planets(which is a very RPG-like feature, in my opinion) as an alternative to give the fans something cool to do on the side.

Story-wise? Yes. We're in the middle of an all-out galactic war™, and frankly Shepard would be a fool to be artifact hunting(unless it were a reapon or resource against the reapers) while the Reapers are giving the galaxy the old one-two.

You see, you seem to represent the opponent to the "mindless shooter kiddy" AKA "pretentious RPG elitist douchebag".

Frankly, I don't know which side is worse.

Tl;Dr

Stop arguing, ME3 is going to be awesome, deal with it.

This is in response to me? lmao what?

First of all I don't care if there is a war and neither does %90 of the other people who will play ME3. No one is going to rush through the game on purpose for the sake of a war that ISNT REAL neither would Bioware be as ridiculous to design it in a manner that requires you to rush. Second, artifacts? Why are you talking about that? Vehicle missions can be anything...in ME1 no one gave you those missions it was respresented as you just stumbling upon them while out doing a mission. But again convenient if being opposed to vehicles to asssume anybody for them stricly wants to hunt artifcacts. Elitist? Why? Because I MENTIONED COD? lmao get real.

I think you should probably get real, as you obviously did not read my post, or simply did not comprehend its meaning. THEY. DID. NOT. SAY. THERE. WERE. NO. VEHICLES.

And no duh you don't care it's a war; hence why I gave a design reason and a STORY reason. 

Stop posting until you have re-educated yourself in the art of reading and literary comprehension.

You need to take your own advice about comprehension. I'm talking to someone else about insulting comments and dialogue and sidequests being out. Then you respond to me like I have been going on a tirade about Vehicles, when I have not been. It's like you quoted the wrong person or something.

Well actually cheeseburgers are whats supposed to be in the game!!! They did NOT say cheeseburgers would not be in the game. See they added in Cheeseburger scanning yada yada. Wtf? huh? Why you telling me this?

I'm referring to your jump from his ww2 post meaning they should leave out dialogue and sidequests, which is just plain ridiculous for you to say. And considering your post was about vehicles, and their correspending to dialogue/sidequests being left out, perhaps you should re-structure you comments better?

Or are you simply untalented at conveying the message you WANT to sent, and disguise it as something else?

I really don't know what else to say you. You just don't seem to understand anything that anyone says to you.

[PHub88]

Eragondragonrider wrote...

Hey isn't there a game play video some where out there, where Shepard is in the back of some vehicle shooting guns at a Reaper ship on a planet?

Yeah looked like he was on a turret on a ship or something. Didn't seem like you controlled whatever he was on though.

[KainrycKarr]

DrwEddy wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

DrwEddy wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

"You have to scan the planets to find key objectives,"


Wonderful.

Depends on what scenario. Do we scan the planets for side missions or finding more areas to be playable in multiplayer?

It sounds like you're simply scanning planets to find missions to obtain resources/materiel.

You mean war assets?

Yes.

[KainrycKarr]

Eragondragonrider wrote...

Hey isn't there a game play video some where out there, where Shepard is in the back of some vehicle shooting guns at a Reaper ship on a planet?

Yes, but that was a rail, not an individual vehicle you drive around.

[Dragoonlordz]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I'm glad changed the title, I still think more accurate would be along lines of "Kotaku Interview: Scanning still present but no mention of ground vehicles."

But at least not so many people will assume the worst based on such little evidence to back up such claims.

People had their hopes up that there might be UNC-like missions because of the asset list and this interview pretty much negates that.  So yes it does knock vehicles back to extremely unlikely.

You title still has the element of telling people what to think rather than informing them of an article and letting them form their own opinions. Hence why the suggestion in first place.

[Malanek]

Eragondragonrider wrote...

Hey isn't there a game play video some where out there, where Shepard is in the back of some vehicle shooting guns at a Reaper ship on a planet?

Yep. Its 50/50 whether you would call that a vehicle sequence though since you aren't driving it. I seem to recall them saying you could take control of atlas mechs as well.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

Kog27 wrote...

I guess console kids didnt like vehicles

Wrong!

When I got back into consoles, Halo CE seemed to be the only game on both mediums that had vehicles. God I'm tired of the PC elitist blaming all the lack of creativity (in gameplay mechanics) on the limitations of consoles. It's the developers! I


Back on topic: Like someone else stated, The article doesn't even mention vehicles. Granted I wouldn't be surprised to see that free roaming vehicles are being replaced by boring linear rail segments. Look at what happened to to Battlefield Bad Company 2 when compared to it's predecessor. (SP only) I honestly don't understand the proliferation of vehicle rail segments in gaming. To me they are far worse than quick time events but for some reason they are far more common.

If there are no Vehicles, I'll be greatly dissappointed but it's not a deal breaker. The only think that would make me declare my pre-order cancelled would be an 8 hour campaign. However I really think that at 29 seeing the gaming industry become what it's become it's time for me to focus on my other hobbies. 

[slimgrin]

DrwEddy wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

DrwEddy wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

"You have to scan the planets to find key objectives,"


Wonderful.

Depends on what scenario. Do we scan the planets for side missions or finding more areas to be playable in multiplayer?

It sounds like you're simply scanning planets to find missions to obtain resources/materiel.

You mean war assets?

The problem is, I can't see how they can make the planet scanning game compelling in any way. I know roaming around in the Mako and looking for random deposits wasn't any better, but still, I'd prefer exploration over running a cursor over a planet.

[AlphaJarmel]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

You title still has the element of telling people what to think rather than informing them of an article and letting them form their own opinions. Hence why the suggestion in first place.

I could also phrase it such as' vehicle status reverted back to pre-asset list status' which would state the same thing. You mentioning that I should state 'no vehicles mentioned' while technically is correct it's also not completely accurate either as Ray pretty much stating that war assets are collected by scanning, he does in a sense address the status of vehicles.  I would be ignoring the point that he negated the main reason why vehicles would be in the game and the main reason people got their hopes up earlier this week.

[KainrycKarr]

slimgrin wrote...

DrwEddy wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

DrwEddy wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

"You have to scan the planets to find key objectives,"


Wonderful.

Depends on what scenario. Do we scan the planets for side missions or finding more areas to be playable in multiplayer?

It sounds like you're simply scanning planets to find missions to obtain resources/materiel.

You mean war assets?

The problem is, I can't see how they can make the planet scanning game compelling in any way. I know roaming around in the Mako and looking for random deposits wasn't any better, but still, I'd prefer exploration over running a cursor over a planet.

I'm pretty sure you're just scanning for missions.

[RoboticWater]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

You title still has the element of telling people what to think rather than informing them of an article and letting them form their own opinions. Hence why the suggestion in first place.

I could also phrase it such as' vehicle status reverted back to pre-asset list status' which would state the same thing. You mentioning that I should state 'no vehicles mentioned' while technically is correct it's also not completely accurate either as Ray pretty much stating that war assets are collected by scanning, he does in a sense address the status of vehicles.  I would be ignoring the point that he negated the main reason why vehicles would be in the game and the main reason people got their hopes up earlier this week.

Considering we know there are sidequests that aren't just scanning planets, I think saying war assets are only achieved through scanning rules nothing out.

Modifié par BlahDog, 23 février 2012 - 01:56 .

[atheelogos]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

No vehicles? Glad to hear it.

pretty much this. It would have been nice if they had it, but I trust the devs. If they leave stuff out then it's for a good reason.

[PHub88]

[/quote]

I'm referring to your jump from his ww2 post meaning they should leave out dialogue and sidequests, which is just plain ridiculous for you to say. And considering your post was about vehicles, and their correspending to dialogue/sidequests being left out, perhaps you should re-structure you comments better?

Or are you simply untalented at conveying the message you WANT to sent, and disguise it as something else?

I really don't know what else to say you. You just don't seem to understand anything that anyone says to you.

[/quote]

You shouldn't have said anything to me in the first place. You are going on about nothing at all .but you want to say I can't understand you. You are arguing points with me that I never even brought up,  then adding irrelevant information to your post regarding things I never even mentioned.

Okay so if someone said look this is like WW2 in space! we don't have time to be driving around looking for artifacts. It would be just PLAIN RIDICULOUS to assume that person might  also feel the same about dialogue and sidequests not related to the plot?<_< Really? Honestly? No, and you know it but will deny it for the sake of argument.

But funny, because I ASKED him if that was the case, got insulted. Then you jumped in with your completely pointless banter. Maybe you should learn how to convey YOUR message more clearly .%90 of what you have said wasn't even needed.

Modifié par PHub88, 23 février 2012 - 02:00 .

[Dragoonlordz]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

You title still has the element of telling people what to think rather than informing them of an article and letting them form their own opinions. Hence why the suggestion in first place.

I could also phrase it such as' vehicle status reverted back to pre-asset list status' which would state the same thing. You mentioning that I should state 'no vehicles mentioned' while technically is correct it's also not completely accurate either as Ray pretty much stating that war assets are collected by scanning, he does in a sense address the status of vehicles.  I would be ignoring the point that he negated the main reason why vehicles would be in the game and the main reason people got their hopes up earlier this week.

Technically is same as factually in this case. You interpret it to mean no vehicles or less chance of vehicles which is fair and can clearly state such in your original post explaining the thread, but the thread title itself should stick to what is said not what might be implied or assumed to be the case else you get bickering that just happened.

Let people make up their own minds rather than telling them what to think both in thread title and explanation of the thread as soon as they enter. I happen to love exploration and vehicles as much as you or anyone else who fall on our side of the fence. I have wrote pages and pages defending the Mako and exploration in vast detail in the past. But the thread title still could be improved, friendly advice not being mean or anything or spiteful.

i am out of here now though as (for the love of god), those pyramids of bickering replies are burning my eyes... 

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 23 février 2012 - 01:59 .

[Malanek]

slimgrin wrote...
The problem is, I can't see how they can make the planet scanning game compelling in any way. I know roaming around in the Mako and looking for random deposits wasn't any better, but still, I'd prefer exploration over running a cursor over a planet.

If you scan more the Reapers start coming in and you have to evade the Reapers in the system by literally having to drive the ship around.

You are NOT just running a cursor over a planet. I can't say whether it will work or not before playing it, but they have addressed the single biggest problem with planet scanning from ME2, the lack of challenge. The way it's described it sounds more like a game of pacman than the me2 planet scanning but is still very vague.

[RoboticWater]

PHub88 wrote...

You shouldn't have said anything to me in the first place. You are going on about nothing at all .but you want to say I can't understand you. You are arguing points with me that I never even brought up,  then adding irrelevant information to your post regarding things I never even mentioned.

Okay so if someone said look this is like WW2 in space! we don't have time to be driving around looking for artifacts. It would be just PLAIN RIDICULOUS to assume that person might not also feel the same about dialogue and sidequests not related to the plot?<_< Really? Honestly? No, and you know it but will deny it for the sake of argument.

But funny, because I ASKED him if that was the case, got insulted. Then you jumped in with your completely pointless banter. Maybe you should learn how to convey YOUR message more clearly .%90 of what you have said wasn't even needed.

For the love of God! Snip this!
It's getting out of hand.

Modifié par BlahDog, 23 février 2012 - 01:59 .

[KainrycKarr]

PHub88 wrote...

*snip*

I gave you explicit reasons to everything you said. I stand by everything I said. 

Modifié par KainrycKarr, 23 février 2012 - 01:59 .

[hex23]

PHub88 wrote...

They could have easily added in vehicles and improved them. But why bother improving when all you care about is satisfying shooter fans.

By this logic they only added vehicles in the first place to please shooter fans....

[KainrycKarr]

BlahDog wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

You shouldn't have said anything to me in the first place. You are going on about nothing at all .but you want to say I can't understand you. You are arguing points with me that I never even brought up,  then adding irrelevant information to your post regarding things I never even mentioned.

Okay so if someone said look this is like WW2 in space! we don't have time to be driving around looking for artifacts. It would be just PLAIN RIDICULOUS to assume that person might not also feel the same about dialogue and sidequests not related to the plot?<_< Really? Honestly? No, and you know it but will deny it for the sake of argument.

But funny, because I ASKED him if that was the case, got insulted. Then you jumped in with your completely pointless banter. Maybe you should learn how to convey YOUR message more clearly .%90 of what you have said wasn't even needed.

For the love of God! Snip this!

Yea, noticed how long it got. My b.

[KainrycKarr]

hex23 wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

They could have easily added in vehicles and improved them. But why bother improving when all you care about is satisfying shooter fans.

By this logic they only added vehicles in the first place to please shooter fans....

There is no logic in his posts. Best to just leave him be. I personally gave up lol.