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[Daklanceff]

Daradain wrote...

Personally, I would be happy if they replaced the specific race unlocks with "race unlock card" that allows you to unlock the specific race of your choice. It's still a rare item that you don't get often, but at least I wouldn't end up getting 4 Krogan soldiers with the Quarian engineer evading my grasp. (I want those freaking turrets dangit!)

quarian turret is horrible compared to the humans combat drone.

i wish i got the krogan and not the quarian....

[Daradain]

Daklanceff wrote...

Daradain wrote...

Personally, I would be happy if they replaced the specific race unlocks with "race unlock card" that allows you to unlock the specific race of your choice. It's still a rare item that you don't get often, but at least I wouldn't end up getting 4 Krogan soldiers with the Quarian engineer evading my grasp. (I want those freaking turrets dangit!)

quarian turret is horrible compared to the humans combat drone.

i wish i got the krogan and not the quarian....

True, but the turret doesn't wander off shooting at guardians while I get shanked by a phantom.

[Adragalus]

Detroitsoldier wrote...

Or we could just leave it how it is now.

It's fine.

Get the idea of instant gratification out of your heads and start realizing that if you want something, you'll have to work for it. Sometimes, you don't get what you want. In the end, it all pays off.

Except in the course of 50-60 Veteran packs, I have maxed out all weapons, all mods, and all human classes. I have all weapons at X except Talon, Carnifex, and Locust, haven't gotten any Widows or Revenants, and only have 2 or 3 customization options for a few of the alien packs.

Yeah, you know how Veteran "guarantees" "at least one uncommon or better?" In the past 10 or so Vet packs, I haven't even gotten ITEMS, it's all been Thermal Clip packs or Incendiary ammo.

Modifié par Adragalus, 23 février 2012 - 08:51 .

[Avane_Master]

At least people today are more acceptive by an alternate idea of unlock syste... I pourposed yesterday the character cards alternative.... But not so many agreeded about that.... IMO all the ideas exposed here are reasonable... Any alternative mode to random char system is valid... Any!!!
And i also agree that not everyone has all the free time to play it... No mather how u want it... so an fast way of get what u want would please these players as well... Me included...

[Chozo_Hybrid]

I like the system, but for the more casual players that just want to be who or get what they need, I feel their pain and I hope the final product has better packs or solutions to this.

As for myself, I do like the random idea. But it should make the random chance cheaper and have the characters that you want or whatever expensive. So you can save to get exactly what you want. Or go for like, a third the price with a random chance.

[Goldendroid]

There is a high chance more types of packs will be in the game, if not 100%.

Since there is no confirmation on what type of packs they are, it is maybe possible that a "random character" pack costing however much will provide you with one RANDOM character and/or customization thing for existing character if you've got it already. 

[jcb231]

I agree that you should never get cards for things that are maxed already....that should be easy to fix, right?

As for the packs, I'd want something like this:

5,000: Recruit Pack
20,000: Veteran Pack

100,000: Elite Pack...these would be six-card packs categorized into multiple styles, with packs that contain more weapons, packs that contain more upgrades, and packs that contain nothing but equipment items.  So there would be an "Elite Upgrade Pack," an "Elite Weapon Pack," and an "Elite Equipment Pack" for example.

500,000: Uber Pack.....one for each class (Engineer, Vanguard, Adept, etc)....buying an Uber Engineer Pack would unlock one random Engineer character, guaranteed, and give you points for that character plus let's say five or six cards of random equipment/weapons/upgrades.  Once you'd unlocked all the characters this option would go away.

[sirus1988]

Daradain wrote...

Personally, I would be happy if they replaced the specific race unlocks with "race unlock card" that allows you to unlock the specific race of your choice. It's still a rare item that you don't get often, but at least I wouldn't end up getting 4 Krogan soldiers with the Quarian engineer evading my grasp. (I want those freaking turrets dangit!)

I agree with this.

[Trinity66]

I keep unlocking krogan soldier ( probably 6x so far) that i have it maxed out and asari adept...

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Detroitsoldier wrote...

Or we could just leave it how it is now.

It's fine.

Get the idea of instant gratification out of your heads and start realizing that if you want something, you'll have to work for it. Sometimes, you don't get what you want. In the end, it all pays off.

Go screw yourself. Not every single player has the luxury of time here. Crap like this is why I hate MP in general.

Dude, the entire match takes like 20 minutes to complete. If you can't take 20 minutes out of your day to play, then you need to hang up the controller. You're done.

[Wintermist]

Yeah it's something everyone I've talked to agreed with. A special box for character unlocks.

[P1G V3n0m]

I'd like random unlocks if there wasn't such a low chance of rolling a good card. I probably get a gold card out of every dozen or so vet packs at least. That means that those 20+ minute games add up to over 4 hours to get one character, and usually that character is an appearance customization for a race I already have, which is insane when you consider I only have 3 alien races unlocked.

Bottom line is that the system that exists now is far from perfect and people are obviously not happy with it. To state that it's "fine" and completely dismiss everyone else is idiotic. I don't see why there can't be a fair compromise on this one.

And honestly, the excuse that you are more excited when you unlock the card you want with the current system is lame. There was only one character I wanted and when i did get it I did not jump with excitement, I was only annoyed that it took me over 30 hours to get the one character I wanted.

Modifié par P1G V3n0m, 24 février 2012 - 08:59 .

[Wintermist]

If you have no problem with it, then you just wouldn't have to buy that box, now would you. But some of us may have a problem with it.

[Bourne Endeavor]

You know another decent comparison could be you have the option of only getting one thing but it's a guarantee rare or something to this effect. Personally, I would prefer a store with exorbitant prices if need be. Just so people have things available should they choose.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Jackumzz wrote...

It is an awful idea.

The demo hasn't even been out for two weeks and people already believe they should've unlocked everything they wanted. We need no compromise because there's nothing wrong with the system. Everyone complaining is just impatient.

I have sunk over two days in overall time with this demo, while dealing with other activities and building a website. Forgive me I don't care to spend what could amount from double to ten times this amount playing before I get to give the Widow a whirl.

[ncknck]

50'000 for a guaranteed unlock? Thats a bit too low. 500'000 credits sounds more like it.

[Lunatic LK47]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

Dude, the entire match takes like 20 minutes to complete. If you can't take 20 minutes out of your day to play, then you need to hang up the controller. You're done.

That's assuming every player is binge-playing MP matches like there's no tomorrow, you ****ing moron. You're not taking into account of people being AFC (Away From Controller) or break-times between matches. I shouldn't have to waste extra time switching lobbies just because my currently reliable team-mates have real life issues to work with, or waste the extra time waiting for them to come back.

Modifié par Lunatic LK47, 24 février 2012 - 10:28 .

[Lunatic LK47]

The Makatak wrote...


Translation: My opinion differs from yours, therefore you're the scum of the earth.

Translation: My opinion is the right way, therefore yours is invalid. Two can play that game, a-s-s-hole.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

Dude, the entire match takes like 20 minutes to complete. If you can't take 20 minutes out of your day to play, then you need to hang up the controller. You're done.

That's assuming every player is binge-playing MP matches like there's no tomorrow, you ****ing moron. You're not taking into account of people being AFC (Away From Controller) or break-times between matches. I shouldn't have to waste extra time switching lobbies just because my currently reliable team-mates have real life issues to work with, or waste the extra time waiting for them to come back.

Again, guy: Twenty. Minutes. Any more "casual" and you might as well not be playing at all. And watch the mouth, sir. I know your mother raised you better than that. All mothers do.

[Lunatic LK47]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

Again, guy: Twenty. Minutes. Any more "casual" and you might as well not be playing at all. And watch the mouth, sir. I know your mother raised you better than that. All mothers do.

Good ****ing God. Is reading comprehension difficult for you? VARIABLE IS DEAD TIME IN-BETWEEN MATCHES. I may end up taking more than an hour because THE ENTIRE TEAM IS AWAY FROM THEIR ****ING CONTROLLERS. Let me put it this way in other words. I shouldn't have to waste an extra thirty minutes in the menu screen waiting for a simple 20 minute match, or wasting that extra time switching multiplayer lobbies.

Modifié par Lunatic LK47, 24 février 2012 - 10:56 .

[Supermarkiisi]

One option could be that you add one unlockable race/class right in the beginning, leaving it for the player to choose which one. But the overall system could use some tweaks probably, some good ideas here too. Still, I don't want to get rid of the current system even though I'm a pretty casual player.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

Again, guy: Twenty. Minutes. Any more "casual" and you might as well not be playing at all. And watch the mouth, sir. I know your mother raised you better than that. All mothers do.

Good ****ing God. Is reading comprehension difficult for you? VARIABLE IS DEAD TIME IN-BETWEEN MATCHES. I may end up taking more than an hour because THE ENTIRE TEAM IS AWAY FROM THEIR ****ING CONTROLLERS. Let me put it this way in other words. I shouldn't have to waste an extra thirty minutes in the menu screen waiting for a simple 20 minute match, or wasting that extra time switching multiplayer lobbies.

Back out, queue up. You just spent three minutes.

But if your time is soooooo precious, then you need to stow the controller and get back to your oh so important real life.

Eventually we all have to retire. Some sooner than others. Sad shame, but we all have to do it. I know I will as soon as I have a kid.

And again, Swearing. Stop. Your mother. Better upbringing than that.

[Lunatic LK47]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...
Back out, queue up. You just spent three minutes.

But if your time is soooooo precious, then you need to stow the controller and get back to your oh so important real life.

Eventually we all have to retire. Some sooner than others. Sad shame, but we all have to do it. I know I will as soon as I have a kid.

And again, Swearing. Stop. Your mother. Better upbringing than that.

You still haven't accounted for other factors involved (i.e. Questionable networking/MP not working properly.). I'm ****ing done with you, ******.

[MrAnthonyDraft]

And this is the solution I've been suggesting since most people started to whine about random unlocks.

As I mentioned in other threads, there are 2 options for the improvement:
1) Make one additional box for about 100k credits which let's you decide what to pick, but leave the original boxes and add a "Spectre Pack" or something for a guarantee of a rare unlock.

2) "Starter Pack" allows you to get whatever you want, but only then, and not later.

Or merge those 2 suggestions so more people get happy.