they don't suck they are secondary weapons and situational.
Why do SMG's suck
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#77
Posté 24 février 2012 - 04:26
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I never actually used the Locust because I deemed Kasumi to be not worth my 7 bucks.
#78
Posté 24 février 2012 - 04:31
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jtg556 wrote...
It's not just you. Heavy Pistols have equal or better damage and far better accuracy. I can't speak for the locust though, I don't have it.
One entire clip, if mostly hits, can maybe kill a trooper. Bronze. Granted it's body shot, but it still sucks too bad.
#79
Posté 24 février 2012 - 04:33
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they suck compare to many other weapon in my opinion . but they aren't bad . just depend on how you play i guess
#80
Posté 24 février 2012 - 04:34
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The_mango55 wrote...
I never actually used the Locust because I deemed Kasumi to be not worth my 7 bucks.
She's awesome, better than most of the deadweight you are stuck with. Her backstabbing was incredibly powerful. I wish she had been a main squadmate instead of being stuck in DLC.
#81
Posté 24 février 2012 - 04:39
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I'm sometimes using Tempest for CQC spray and pray action and shield stripping. And that's about it. I'm usually better off using only a scoped Phalanx/Carnifex or Schimitar, if I wanna go more aggressive.
IMO, they could use a slight buff in damage. I don't mind the innacuracy, but they should be able to shred through enemies a little faster when used up close.
IMO, they could use a slight buff in damage. I don't mind the innacuracy, but they should be able to shred through enemies a little faster when used up close.
#82
Posté 24 février 2012 - 04:41
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Put a scope on it. You'll be able to get headshots at medium and even long range, and can then take out multiple troopers with a single heat sink.royard wrote...
One entire clip, if mostly hits, can maybe kill a trooper. Bronze. Granted it's body shot, but it still sucks too bad.
#83
Posté 24 février 2012 - 04:50
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Yeah, with mods for Vanguards they just spray death all over at close to medium range.
#84
Posté 24 février 2012 - 07:37
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I only use submachine guns when I'm messing around. They make alright make alright back-up weapons but I'd still rather carry a heavy pistol. To me their light weight and high rate of fire doesn't justify their heavy recoil and weak damage.
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Posté 24 février 2012 - 10:51
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Hmm, I’ve not had the issues with accuracy others have had. I use the Tempest with the scope and ammo mods and have found it to be pretty accurate when aiming at close to medium range. I can compensate for the recoil well enough, though one does have to compensate for it all the time. With an Engineer, for example, I’m able to use it, or the pistol, and have a high shield recharge speed, which is preferable. I try to weaken a target’s armor and shields if I can before laying into it, and that works well. They’re not the “best” weapons, but I don’t hate them either.
#86
Posté 24 février 2012 - 03:59
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I think we can all agree that for being the gold unlock, the Hornet is pretty lackluster.
#87
Posté 24 février 2012 - 04:29
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Stephenc13 wrote...
Aim for the head.
I have absolutely no problem with damage on my SMGs.
My engineers only carry either the Locust or the Hornet.
Yep!
#88
Posté 24 février 2012 - 04:29
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My Tempest does work. I've always been capable with recoil-heavy weapons though too.
If you are attempting to gun someone down solely with an SMG, you're probably doing it wrong. SMG's and Pistols are meant to be complementary weapons to power heavy classes, and backup weapons for combat heavy classes.
If you are attempting to gun someone down solely with an SMG, you're probably doing it wrong. SMG's and Pistols are meant to be complementary weapons to power heavy classes, and backup weapons for combat heavy classes.
#89
Posté 24 février 2012 - 04:59
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I guess it's a skill issue.
I'd use SMG, if Avenger wasn't as good if not better at all ranges. She's the best.
I'd use SMG, if Avenger wasn't as good if not better at all ranges. She's the best.
#90
Posté 24 février 2012 - 05:04
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CHAw wrote...
Put a scope on it. You'll be able to get headshots at medium and even long range, and can then take out multiple troopers with a single heat sink.royard wrote...
One entire clip, if mostly hits, can maybe kill a trooper. Bronze. Granted it's body shot, but it still sucks too bad.
No, I will just use Carnifex to one-headshot troopers. Why would you prefer Locust over Carnifex?
#91
Posté 24 février 2012 - 05:05
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I'm a bit confused about all this talk about recoil and it's probably because I'm used to dividing accuracy when firing into bloom and climb.
So is the massive recoil issues that people are talking about the fact that the SMGs tend to have large cones of fire when firing or that they move around a lot when firing?
So is the massive recoil issues that people are talking about the fact that the SMGs tend to have large cones of fire when firing or that they move around a lot when firing?
#92
Posté 24 février 2012 - 05:32
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^they jump around alot when firing, AND their accuracy isn't very good if on full auto.
So it's sort of a combination of 'bloom' ala Halo: Reach (ie the faster you fire some of the SMGs the worse their spread gets) and recoil/accuracy issues (some SMGs have some decent recoil - gun kicks back, etc.)
Burst firing works great, and up close, SMGs tear things up. They aren't meant for long-range combat, except for maybe the burst-fire SMGs like the Shuriken or a more accurate SMG like the Locust.
So it's sort of a combination of 'bloom' ala Halo: Reach (ie the faster you fire some of the SMGs the worse their spread gets) and recoil/accuracy issues (some SMGs have some decent recoil - gun kicks back, etc.)
Burst firing works great, and up close, SMGs tear things up. They aren't meant for long-range combat, except for maybe the burst-fire SMGs like the Shuriken or a more accurate SMG like the Locust.
#93
Posté 27 février 2012 - 09:54
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MELTOR13 wrote...
My Tempest does work. I've always been capable with recoil-heavy weapons though too.
If you are attempting to gun someone down solely with an SMG, you're probably doing it wrong. SMG's and Pistols are meant to be complementary weapons to power heavy classes, and backup weapons for combat heavy classes.
exactly
(btw, i love the six shot burst one more then the auto ones)
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Posté 23 janvier 2013 - 06:48
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#98
Posté 23 janvier 2013 - 06:55
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Holy mother of all necros!
I still concur with OP, Hurricane is the only smg useful right now
I still concur with OP, Hurricane is the only smg useful right now
#99
Posté 23 janvier 2013 - 06:59
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I didn't notice the date at first and I was really confused.
Let the dead R.I.P.
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#100
Posté 23 janvier 2013 - 07:06
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