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[Thoragoros]

I cannot begin to recite the number of times I've been in a full team of four and no one even attempts to go for the objectives unless  it's the assassinations.  Players rarely, and I mean rarely, bother to try and go the objectives. 

The thing is, I believe that most players think that if they take the time to break off from the combat to try and reach and objective they will 'miss time' to score kills thereby risking their place on the leaderboard.

A quick remedy would be awarding XP, say a 500 or so points, to the player/players that complete the objective.

EDIT:

As I had not made myself clear, I mean PERSONAL score, which counts towards the placing on the leaderboard, as when making a kill, you get a few hundred xp that counts towards your score.

Modifié par Thoragoros, 23 février 2012 - 06:59 .

[UK Wildcat]

MP is fine, don't pug if you don't like playing with randoms.

[minianthunter]

You do get 550 exp for capping a point personally. It only goes towards your score though and everyone will get the exp in the end. Now if they made it give the person who caps it credits, or even for capping a point in succession. Then people would be fighting over it.

Al though it sounds like you are still playing in bronze and the bonus credits for completing objectives quickly is rather minimal (like 2k at best if the planets align). In silver it is much higher, plus its overwhelming if you don't cap the objectives because enemies spawn endlessly until you do. Gold is the same just more so.

[UK Wildcat]

minianthunter wrote...

You do get 550 exp for capping a point personally. It only goes towards your score though and everyone will get the exp in the end. Now if they made it give the person who caps it credits, or even for capping a point in succession. Then people would be fighting over it.

Al though it sounds like you are still playing in bronze and the bonus credits for completing objectives quickly is rather minimal (like 2k at best if the planets align). In silver it is much higher, plus its overwhelming if you don't cap the objectives because enemies spawn endlessly until you do. Gold is the same just more so.

*Not doing it = failing = the only incentive needed outside of bronze.

[Thoragoros]

minianthunter wrote...

Al though it sounds like you are still playing in bronze and the bonus credits for completing objectives quickly is rather minimal (like 2k at best if the planets align). In silver it is much higher, plus its overwhelming if you don't cap the objectives because enemies spawn endlessly until you do. Gold is the same just more so.

No, I'm N57, Origin: ID Thoragoros, and I only play bronze if I'm starting out a new character.

In the last two matches I was using my standard level 18 Infiltrator, and I was literally the only person even attempting to get to the objectives. 

[Turbosonic]

I haven't found anyone who doesn't do objectives. (Actually I did find an N7 1 and 2 who ignored them and tried to take on two atlas's by themselves with the default weapons as infiltrators. It didn't go well for them. Can't blame them, they are just beginning to play. I only get annoyed at the rookies who go on silver and gold and cost us the game.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

If you don't do the objectives, then you fail, earning you no money.

If you're running into groups like this, I think it's safe to say your are playing with dogs, because the they have no idea what they are doing.

[Trauma Hunter]

...you already get exactly what you are asking for.

you get 500 points per objective captured.

and you get 100ish points every few seconds for a hack.

Not sure but you might get bonus points for the marked targets.

Your post is either a crappy troll or you are simply a really uninformed player.

[Trauma Hunter]

Double post fail.

Modifié par Trauma Hunter, 23 février 2012 - 06:41 .

[Aramina]

Trauma Hunter wrote...

...you already get exactly what you are asking for.

you get 500 points per objective captured.

and you get 100ish points every few seconds for a hack.

Not sure but you might get bonus points for the marked targets.

Your post is either a crappy troll or you are simply a really uninformed player.

What people need is a nice shiny badge at the end for objectives, like with weapon kills and the like. Then people will start "objective-stealing" as well as kill-stealing.

[Gladegunner]

You get group exp per pulse on your objective bar for hackings, but that really isnt obvious to newer players. You'd make more exp defending and killing.

[minianthunter]

UK Wildcat wrote...

minianthunter wrote...

You do get 550 exp for capping a point personally. It only goes towards your score though and everyone will get the exp in the end. Now if they made it give the person who caps it credits, or even for capping a point in succession. Then people would be fighting over it.

Al though it sounds like you are still playing in bronze and the bonus credits for completing objectives quickly is rather minimal (like 2k at best if the planets align). In silver it is much higher, plus its overwhelming if you don't cap the objectives because enemies spawn endlessly until you do. Gold is the same just more so.

*Not doing it = failing = the only incentive needed outside of bronze.

I meant it more of stating a fact, if there was personal gain from capping objectives it would be fought over it.  But there isn't right now so people expect the rest of the team will do it; Deferred responsibility.

When I play my games I am the one who goes and caps the objectives, I'm an infiltrator I have the least risk while running over there alone, and dieing over at the objective alone.  So anything said to me is just preaching to the choir.

[Aramina]

minianthunter wrote...

UK Wildcat wrote...

minianthunter wrote...

You do get 550 exp for capping a point personally. It only goes towards your score though and everyone will get the exp in the end. Now if they made it give the person who caps it credits, or even for capping a point in succession. Then people would be fighting over it.

Al though it sounds like you are still playing in bronze and the bonus credits for completing objectives quickly is rather minimal (like 2k at best if the planets align). In silver it is much higher, plus its overwhelming if you don't cap the objectives because enemies spawn endlessly until you do. Gold is the same just more so.

*Not doing it = failing = the only incentive needed outside of bronze.

I meant it more of stating a fact, if there was personal gain from capping objectives it would be fought over it.  But there isn't right now so people expect the rest of the team will do it; Deferred responsibility.

When I play my games I am the one who goes and caps the objectives, I'm an infiltrator I have the least risk while running over there alone, and dieing over at the objective alone.  So anything said to me is just preaching to the choir.

You must have been matched with some awful teams. I've had problems with that sometimes, usually the newer people that don't know you're supposed to go for the objectives. The only way they can make it more obvious is to make the things glow so you can see them through walls all the way across the map, and have some big neon arrows pointing at them for good measure. Maybe throw in a ridiculously loud alarm so people will go for them just to silence the noise. *EDIT - and make the alarm louder the farther you are from the objective.

Modifié par Aramina, 23 février 2012 - 06:59 .

[G3rman]

You get bonuses depending on the number of people hacking a target. The rest you get small exp bonuses to yourself.

People are just stupid.

[minianthunter]

Aramina wrote...

minianthunter wrote...

UK Wildcat wrote...

minianthunter wrote...

You do get 550 exp for capping a point personally. It only goes towards your score though and everyone will get the exp in the end. Now if they made it give the person who caps it credits, or even for capping a point in succession. Then people would be fighting over it.

Al though it sounds like you are still playing in bronze and the bonus credits for completing objectives quickly is rather minimal (like 2k at best if the planets align). In silver it is much higher, plus its overwhelming if you don't cap the objectives because enemies spawn endlessly until you do. Gold is the same just more so.

*Not doing it = failing = the only incentive needed outside of bronze.

I meant it more of stating a fact, if there was personal gain from capping objectives it would be fought over it.  But there isn't right now so people expect the rest of the team will do it; Deferred responsibility.

When I play my games I am the one who goes and caps the objectives, I'm an infiltrator I have the least risk while running over there alone, and dieing over at the objective alone.  So anything said to me is just preaching to the choir.

You must have been matched with some awful teams. I've had problems with that sometimes, usually the newer people that don't know you're supposed to go for the objectives. The only way they can make it more obvious is to make the things glow so you can see them through walls all the way across the map, and have some big neon arrows pointing at them for good measure. Maybe throw in a ridiculously loud alarm so people will go for them just to silence the noise. *EDIT - and make the alarm louder the farther you are from the objective.

It's not that the people in my matches don't go for it, it's just I go for it imediately, and by the second or third objective they figure or that guy will just run across the map, in a cloak, not get shot at, and cap it before I get there.  Which I am fine with me, I want the bonus money, I want to win, so I take care of it.  I don't complain. 

When I'm playing with friends on vent I do the same thing, I will call out that I will be doing so, so no one else goes unless I ask for cover, and they aren't idiots they will cover me if I ask for it.

[Thoragoros]

Aramina wrote...

Trauma Hunter wrote...

...you already get exactly what you are asking for.

you get 500 points per objective captured.

and you get 100ish points every few seconds for a hack.

Not sure but you might get bonus points for the marked targets.

Your post is either a crappy troll or you are simply a really uninformed player.

What people need is a nice shiny badge at the end for objectives, like with weapon kills and the like. Then people will start "objective-stealing" as well as kill-stealing.

Mayeb if medals were awarded at the end for say 'x number of objectives?'

I actually don't see the problem with that.

minianthunter wrote...

I meant it more of stating a fact, if there was personal gain from capping objectives it would be fought over it. But there isn't right now so people expect the rest of the team will do it; Deferred responsibility.

When I play my games I am the one who goes and caps the objectives, I'm an infiltrator I have the least risk while running over there alone, and dieing over at the objective alone. So anything said to me is just preaching to the choir.

I also play Infiltrator, so I'm not really complaining, since I expect to be the one sneaking across the map to try and capture objectives, but I've been in quite a few positions where the rest of the team really doesn't even try to get there.

[Aramina]

Thoragoros wrote...

Mayeb if medals were awarded at the end for say 'x number of objectives?'

I actually don't see the problem with that.

I was actually mostly serious with that one, just doubt it would actually happen. It would definitely make people go for them more...we gamers must be like magpies.

[minianthunter]

Thoragoros wrote...
I also play Infiltrator, so I'm not really complaining, since I expect to be the one sneaking across the map to try and capture objectives, but I've been in quite a few positions where the rest of the team really doesn't even try to get there.

I don't really care in the long run, so long as it doesn't effect us winning the match.  If we lose because of it then of course I won't be happy, but what am I going to do scream at them on the overly low volume voice chat on origin? It won't do any good.

Also a sidenote, is it just me or is the time it takes for the next objective (in the cap four spots version) to spawn just barely long enough for my ADD to kick in and for me to forget about it to shoot some guys?  It happens far more often than I would like it to.

[ZombieGambit]

They don't really assign credits per objective, but you get more as a team if you get them done faster.

I do feel like the credits you earn for the Bronze challenge should be raised. I managed to complete a match in about 16 minutes, with no one dying, and getting a full extraction and I only got 16,000 some credits. It should be like 20,000.

Modifié par ZombieGambit, 23 février 2012 - 07:16 .

[snfonseka]

So true!