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[ElementL09]

I'm not really okay with paying for DLC day 1. I feel that it should be included with every *new* copy of the game. I am a CE owner.

[philamar18]

I have read the leak, and the Prothean is not that important story wise. Yes he gives some cool insight, but he doesn't offer much else. Bioware has also said all along that the collectors edition is going to have a dlc character, so I am surprised that people are shocked. If it is that much of a problem, than don't buy it.

That being said, I am buying the CE (two copies actually + the strategy guide), and I would have no problem if they had more dlc on day 1 that was not in the collectors edition. I don't really understand the uproar to be honest. There is dlc for most games anymore, day 1 included. Maybe it is because I am also a fan of NIS games and am used to there being $50-75 worth of dlc. Game developers are businesses, so they need to turn a profit, which has been harder to do this console cycle due to the rising cost. Once again, if it is that much of a problem, than don't buy the game/dlc.

[The JoeMan]

When they anounced the collector edition and carefully weighed the benefit of buying it versus the extra cost incurred to me. I decided then that the content was worth an extra $20 and made my purchase accordingly. You apparently decided it was not worth the extra cost. That's fine. The ONLY question now is "Is the prothean DLC and all of its' contents (extra character, mission, weapons, skins) worth $10 to YOU." If it is, than buy it. If it's not, don't. Yes it would be worth it to me even if it hadn't been included in the collector's edition.

[Gibb_Shepard]

G3rman wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
Zaeed was free, Prothy isn't. That's kind of the crux of the matter here.

Free for those who had Cerberus network, I don't know if all new copies got the network or just CE but I know at some point people had to buy it to have access.

I wouldn't call that free.

Not to mention you are implying the Prothean is worth in equal to Zaeed who was a terrible character with no real interesting background.

No, it was free. Everyone had Cerberus access, unless you bought a used copy.

[Cainne Chapel]

as a CE purchaser, I'd purchase the DLC regardless if it interested me (most squaddies do) But still I paid an extra $20 for all 3 of my ME3 copies to get all the N7 bonuses, so an extra 10 for those that didn't think CE was worth it for them.... I dont get the complaints, you dont want the bonus squadmate and stuff, dont spend the money.

But dont complain that you're OWED it when a bonus squaddie was always one of the selling points for the N7 edition. I'd say be happy its offered! I just hope they dont part and parcel all the N7 stuff...

[stysiaq]

I hope Prothy will be rather Shale 2.0 than Zaeed 2.0

[xentar]

I think it should have been Zaeed 2.0. And, maybe, they should just have given you 2 squadmates in the vanilla game and made the rest $10 DLC each.

[Angry Finn]

Personally, I'm rather digusted the DLC character isn't Zaeed. Imma gonna miss that crazy old badass
But Prothy will have to do. Hope he can carry the torch of badassitude that was Zaeeds.

~But thats just my opinion, no need to go spreading it around.

[Unato]

as a CE owner I would buy it if I had to fork out cash. $10 dollars is my max though, I'd give you that.

I have up to this point enjoyed the ME franchise and to show my appreciation for what BW have done I have supported every story based DLC by purchasing it (costumes can go die for all I care although the firepower pack was surprisingly good). I bought the CE on that reason as well not because of some leaked character which I seriously did not know about

that's not to say I agree with what BW has done. seeing as how everything we've done up to ME3 has been largely because of the Protheans I agree that he should have been included for all new buyers instead of some potentially useless online pass 

Modifié par Unato, 23 février 2012 - 10:10 .

[staindgrey]

To the OP's point, I'm getting the CE, and I'm not okay with it.

Mainly because it implies that the Prothean won't have an essential, or even big, role at all. And that is very, very disappointing. I can't even put in to words the amount of lost potential there.

[MonkeySeeker]

Cool and all, but not really all that important.

As far as I'm aware that's exactly what Prothy-mon is

[Cainne Chapel]

I honestly am not to concerned with the prothy character development wise honestly.... not every member of sheps crew needs to be the all knowing font of wisdom for his/her respective race ya know?

Granted I'm sure the prthy will shed some amount of backstory ala legion or something But at the same time being an all important knowledge spout has gotten a bit... overbearing in the series

[Arcadian Legend]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

The question is irrelevant, because the Prothean IS the same as Zaeed. Cool and all, but not really important. The difference here is he comes only with the CE instead of with all new copies. I've yet to see one scrap of evidence that Prothy is critical to or even a significant part of the plot, except for this video put out by a Yahtzee-wannabe. The BSN is once again working itself up into a frothing rage based on nothing more than speculation and misinformation. If it wasn't a damn Prothean - which I still think is a stupid idea for a squadmate - nobody would even care, because the tinfoil epileptic trees theories that spawned this entire mess would be dismissed instead of generating a mass "OMG HEZ OLD HE MUST BE 'PORTANT!" hysteria over NOTHING. 

In your scenario, Prothy is at best Kasumi 2.0. More than likely I'd get the **** over it being another piece of Day 1 DLC and buy it, because I actually enjoy this series, and I'm not a whiny, entitled, overindulged so-called fan. If it bothers you that much, just pirate the damn thing and get your jollies from taking a stand against big evil corporate EAware.

Zaeed was free, Prothy isn't. That's kind of the crux of the matter here.

Granted I don't go to the DA boards nearly as much as I should, but what about Sebastian for DAII? He came with the SE, but needed to be paid for otherwise. I don't think people kicked up such a fuss for him. (I think?)

Modifié par Arcadian Legend, 23 février 2012 - 10:18 .

[Arcadian Legend]

stysiaq wrote...

I hope Prothy will be rather Shale 2.0 than Zaeed 2.0

Considering he's said to be pretty important to the story I'd imagine eh's a pretty cool guy who doesn't afraid of anything who can actually be talked to.

[staindgrey]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

The question is irrelevant, because the Prothean IS the same as Zaeed. Cool and all, but not really important. The difference here is he comes only with the CE instead of with all new copies. I've yet to see one scrap of evidence that Prothy is critical to or even a significant part of the plot, except for this video put out by a Yahtzee-wannabe. The BSN is once again working itself up into a frothing rage based on nothing more than speculation and misinformation. If it wasn't a damn Prothean - which I still think is a stupid idea for a squadmate - nobody would even care, because the tinfoil epileptic trees theories that spawned this entire mess would be dismissed instead of generating a mass "OMG HEZ OLD HE MUST BE 'PORTANT!" hysteria over NOTHING. 

In your scenario, Prothy is at best Kasumi 2.0. More than likely I'd get the **** over it being another piece of Day 1 DLC and buy it, because I actually enjoy this series, and I'm not a whiny, entitled, overindulged so-called fan. If it bothers you that much, just pirate the damn thing and get your jollies from taking a stand against big evil corporate EAware.

Zaeed was free, Prothy isn't. That's kind of the crux of the matter here.

Granted I don't go to the DA boards nearly as much as I should, but what about Sebastian for DAII? He came with the SE, but needed to be paid for otherwise. I don't think people kicked up such a fuss for him. (I think?)

I saw a lot of fuss about it. A lot of fuss.

But even then, a Prothean seems to be a pretty big deal, as in too big of a deal to be tacked on as optional DLC. And the Sebastion thing died out once everyone* decided DAII was a bad game.

[Chromie]

Arcadian Legend wrote...
Granted I don't go to the DA boards nearly as much as I should, but what about Sebastian for DAII? He came with the SE, but needed to be paid for otherwise. I don't think people kicked up such a fuss for him. (I think?)

Because he was very stupid 

I think Sebastian also cost like $15 not sure that's a lot for just one character.

Modifié par Ringo12, 23 février 2012 - 10:22 .

[titoarc]

Mr Fixit wrote...

Ever since Bioware confirmed that the DLC squaddie is a Prothean, BSN is in an uprorar. Some are shouting "bloody murder", while others (many of those being Collector Edition buyers) are just saying "who cares. BioWare has the right to charge what they want for optional content. Want it? Buy it!"

Well, here's the thing. What if the bonus DLC squaddie was revealed yesterday to be some Zaeed-like guy? Cool and all, but not really all that important. True optional content, you know. Your $80 CE would still be a great deal, right? DLC character, bonus missions, robo-dog, and all the other nifty stuff.

Say, BioWare also announced yesterday that there is another DLC bonus character, a Prothean, that ISN'T in the Collectors Edition, and everyone should pay ten bucks extra to get him, whether you have CE or not. I mean, they didn't promise it would be a Prothean in the CE, right?

So, would you be alright with that? Yeah, I didn't think so.

the from ashes dlc comes free with the CE

[Unato]

Arcadian Legend wrote...
Granted I don't go to the DA boards nearly as much as I should, but what about Sebastian for DAII? He came with the SE, but needed to be paid for otherwise. I don't think people kicked up such a fuss for him. (I think?)

I imagine the board was too full of people complaining about <every> single aspect of DA2

- animation too fast
- human centric
- crappy CC
- dialogue system

and the list prob goes on. either way what complaints prob got buried in a hurry

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Willing to bet the this prothean isn't that important to the ME3 story.It's going to be one of those I put myself to sleep to warn future generations.But hey I see you defeated the reapers , help me find some lost artifacts and afterward I'm off to see the galaxy(never to be heard from again until ME4).

[RyuGuitarFreak]

It would have been less of an issue and more respectful for sure.

The game already has an online pass, 10 bucks DLC pack, many minor DLC for marketing products and exclusive DLC for retailers on launch day. The game's content all spread out.

This is already confusing and a problem for me. I'm against any day 1 that is not free of charge DLC. Period.

Now, something that is so heavy on the lore side like PROTHEAN content being released as CE bonus and 10 dolar pack sounds to me like an obvious cash bag. It's a cheap move to get more money from franchise fans. Charged fanservice. How did Bioware agreed to that? How did Casey agreed to that? Makes me sad. And makes me even more sad that it's DLC. That it's something optional. A PROTHEAN squadmate...optional. We already know that he's not that relevant, that he will bring more light in their subject but ultimately won't affect the plot. What a missed oportunity.

Terrible, terrible choice.

[Druscylla]

I dunno. I already had it planned to get the CE, this was kind of just an extra for me I guess. Given that I am paying more than the purchasers of the standard edition, I don't feel its all that unfair - esp given that I am getting the Digital Deluxe and my "bonuses" are mainly game goodies and things that will be around the internet if I wanted to download them anyhow. So I feel that I am getting a fair deal in this.

That said, I can't judge the overall value of this DLC because I don't know how long it is or what's in it other than the squad member. For example, Lair of the Shadow Broker was $10 if I remember right, had no squad member that was permanent, wasn't overly long (took me longer to get through Arrival) but was still pretty fun in terms of gameplay. But what I find acceptable isn't what everyone else finds acceptable. I do think that $10 is kinda pricey, whether one is on a budget or not but since EA holds the purse, it doesn't surprise me.

Modifié par Druscylla, 23 février 2012 - 10:48 .

[Matt251287]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Zaeed was free, Prothy isn't. That's kind of the crux of the matter here.

[XxXSarenXxX]

I would be a little annoyed about it, but ultimatly shrug and pay the extra 10$ hell people spend 60$ for crap like final fantasy we should only be so lucky we only have to spend 60$+10$ for the greatest video game series sense baldurs gate.

[Unfallen_Satan]

When I pre-ordered my CE, I didn't know what mission or character would come with it. I just based it on Kasumi's DLC, which was $6. CE is on average about $30 more than regular edition (based on Amazon pricing for regular editions). I figure the art book is maybe a $10 value, the digital soundtrack another $5-10, the lithograph $5, and all the other stuff together maybe another $10. Overall, since I want most of the items to celebrate the big finale, it's at least not a waste of money.

I would have rated a Zaeed 2.0 DLC at $2-4 since I thought Zaeed was a superfluous character; his mission was alright. Although there was a risk that the bonus DLC would be poor, BioWare did well with Kasumi and especially well with Overlord and LotSB. Even Arrival was ok. So I figured they wouldn't revert to the less impressive DLC bundled with the Cerberus network, which was essentially a part of the core game since no new copy of ME2 came without them.

A Prothean squadmate is worth $10 as long as his mission reveals some history about the Protheans. I've always been curious about them; the Prothean doesn't even have to be a squadmate. I have no doubt that after all is said and done, I will have spend at least another $30 on additional ME3 content. $120 altogether for CE ME3 is a safe bet. If this were any other game, there wouldn't be a snowball's chance in hell that I would spend more than half that. At least no game right now.

Price consideration based on PC games, which almost always cost >20% less than console versions very soon after the game launches.

Modifié par Unfallen_Satan, 23 février 2012 - 10:57 .

[hawat333]

I would be allright with a Zaeed 2.0 too (with real conversation options, of course, not that thing we got in ME2), or it would be even better for the CE to contain only cosmetical changes and physical stuff like in the old days (a model Normandy, a map, a collection of short stories, etc), but...
Honestly, I did pre-order CE exactly because it contained an extra character and mission along with the goodies. And because I followed throuh with the trilogy, I even have an ME2 CE on my shelf (arrived a bit late, so it's untouched, boxed, as I bought the normal version too), so I might as well bought the CE anyway.