I play only on gold.. If the person has a high N7 rating but a lower level character.. why not. The person probably has weapons and consumables that make up for it.
If both the character and N7 rating are low.. I'd rather not waste time.
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#52
Posté 23 février 2012 - 12:23
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Bamboo33 wrote...
I play only on gold.. If the person has a high N7 rating but a lower level character.. why not. The person probably has weapons and consumables that make up for it.
If both the character and N7 rating are low.. I'd rather not waste time.
Weapons and consumables can only do so much, they can't replace the powers you get later on, which are an absolute necessity on Gold.
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 12:24
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Yeah. I meant in the case where the other 3 players are 'gold ready'.
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 12:28
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Yeah. I meant in the case where the other 3 players are 'gold ready'.
I think that everyone that plays on Gold should be at least lvl 12 (If they have the weapons and consumables), any lower than that and they will be more of a burden than anything, which, for me, is a problem on gold.
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 12:44
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My theory on picking out brand new players is this: 2 weapons equipped (with a couple exceptions) = new player. 1 weapon equipped = experienced player. It's far from foolproof, but surprisingly effective.
Why do you want to identify new players ?
Mainly because the brand-new players won't understand how the objectives work until they have it 1) explained to them, which I do over voice chat or 2) demonstrated, which I do automatically. It just prepares me to know if I will be the one handling the objectives or not.
You would be surprised how many people ignore the voice cues during a hack or upload, leaving me as the only one doing it lol.
Also, new players will almost always use their missile launcher on an Atlas...something I consider wasteful unless I'm on wave 7+ on gold or my group isn't sutting it and we're being overrun on wave 10 of silver. They run from Phantoms, too...
So, identifying the new players just prepares me for how much of the work I'm going to have to handle, that's all.
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 01:03
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xcrunr1647 wrote...
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xcrunr1647 wrote...
My theory on picking out brand new players is this: 2 weapons equipped (with a couple exceptions) = new player. 1 weapon equipped = experienced player. It's far from foolproof, but surprisingly effective.
Why do you want to identify new players ?
Mainly because the brand-new players won't understand how the objectives work until they have it 1) explained to them, which I do over voice chat or 2) demonstrated, which I do automatically. It just prepares me to know if I will be the one handling the objectives or not.
You would be surprised how many people ignore the voice cues during a hack or upload, leaving me as the only one doing it lol.
Also, new players will almost always use their missile launcher on an Atlas...something I consider wasteful unless I'm on wave 7+ on gold or my group isn't sutting it and we're being overrun on wave 10 of silver. They run from Phantoms, too...
So, identifying the new players just prepares me for how much of the work I'm going to have to handle, that's all.
some good points there
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 01:09
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Down with the snobs!
I play a lot of bronze matches, because I am only N7 ranked in the mid to high 70's. My luck at the veteran packs from the store has been less than satisfactory - good weapons are really hard to come by. So, I make due with what I have, but I don't feel overpowred unless I am on my Krogan Soldier or my Salarian Infiltrator, or my Human Vanguard. As you guys can tell, your N7 rating comes from your characters (up to level 20 per class), all added together, minus one point per character class. Ergo, my level 20's feel pretty good to me because I have more familiarity with them.
With that being said, a high N7 rank is more a case of "I have been in your position and know how to back you up". Every class has some weakness issues - and every successful team should stick by one major theme - work together. If I had my promotional flick to add in here I would. "For we are the N7, we have fought together across the Attican Traverrse, through the Terminus Systems ......."
MP is about.... guess what?! Teamwork! Who would have thought of that? Amazing. Sure - I can solo Bronze on my infiltrator. But, thats not really a deed or story to be sung, now is it? I'll help anyone I can in MP, even if that means fighting 2 phantoms and 2 turrets at once. We live and fight together or we die together.
Now, one last thing that I have noticed in MP - and this is my only grump, really - is the lack of people using a microphone. Go out to Best Buy or online to Newegg - where ever you shop, and get your cheap stingy butt a darn microphone. Learn how to use it. Even if you are shy, call stuff out. You can even have a one word at a time vocabulary. Use words like: Phantom, Turret, Atlas, Help - etc. Personally, I don't mind setting up a plan - you two together, us two over here - or I will go save so and so, you stay in the circle for the downoad...... When I do have the pleasure of getting into a really good silver or gold team, I have found that they communicate - and really well. The best teams know each other - they think alike - they do this stuff a lot and its really fun to run with them. Actually, they were a 4 man team but one of them was washing his dog or something, so they 3 manned it and I got to fill a slot. Sure, I came in dead last, but I had a blast.
I look forward to sharing that fun with other players - level ones or not. We've all been there as a level 1, with an N7 rank of 1. Its just numbers.
I play a lot of bronze matches, because I am only N7 ranked in the mid to high 70's. My luck at the veteran packs from the store has been less than satisfactory - good weapons are really hard to come by. So, I make due with what I have, but I don't feel overpowred unless I am on my Krogan Soldier or my Salarian Infiltrator, or my Human Vanguard. As you guys can tell, your N7 rating comes from your characters (up to level 20 per class), all added together, minus one point per character class. Ergo, my level 20's feel pretty good to me because I have more familiarity with them.
With that being said, a high N7 rank is more a case of "I have been in your position and know how to back you up". Every class has some weakness issues - and every successful team should stick by one major theme - work together. If I had my promotional flick to add in here I would. "For we are the N7, we have fought together across the Attican Traverrse, through the Terminus Systems ......."
MP is about.... guess what?! Teamwork! Who would have thought of that? Amazing. Sure - I can solo Bronze on my infiltrator. But, thats not really a deed or story to be sung, now is it? I'll help anyone I can in MP, even if that means fighting 2 phantoms and 2 turrets at once. We live and fight together or we die together.
Now, one last thing that I have noticed in MP - and this is my only grump, really - is the lack of people using a microphone. Go out to Best Buy or online to Newegg - where ever you shop, and get your cheap stingy butt a darn microphone. Learn how to use it. Even if you are shy, call stuff out. You can even have a one word at a time vocabulary. Use words like: Phantom, Turret, Atlas, Help - etc. Personally, I don't mind setting up a plan - you two together, us two over here - or I will go save so and so, you stay in the circle for the downoad...... When I do have the pleasure of getting into a really good silver or gold team, I have found that they communicate - and really well. The best teams know each other - they think alike - they do this stuff a lot and its really fun to run with them. Actually, they were a 4 man team but one of them was washing his dog or something, so they 3 manned it and I got to fill a slot. Sure, I came in dead last, but I had a blast.
I look forward to sharing that fun with other players - level ones or not. We've all been there as a level 1, with an N7 rank of 1. Its just numbers.
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 01:14
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On Bronze I play with everyone, that said, I only play Bronze when I have a seriously low-level character or one I need practice on and those days are gone.
On Silver, I play with everyone that has either a sufficiently high N7 rating (at least ten) and a character level of at least 5, and that is the utmost minimum I accept, because everything else is just a liability. I don't have problems with Silver difficulty if the people I play with are decent, but someone that gets constantly killed because his character is frankly underleveled or because he can't possibly have sufficient experience to make up for this disadvantage is simply a burden on the team.
However, when I see someone, even if he's on the low end of my personal scale that barely made it on my list to play with, I help him just as any other, if not more to ensure he gets the experience he is longing for as I would expect others to treat me as a newcomer.
In short, I welcome newcomers and do everything I can to help, as long as they have enough "common" sense to not go in over their heads like those dozens N7 lvl5, character lvl5 dudes I found in the Gold lobbies when I tried to play it. When I see those people, I guffaw a little and exit, there is simply no point in playing with them because A.) they don't have the substance in terms of gameplay capability and B.) they obviously have a very bad judge on their own abilities, meaning they'd be dead at every second possible situation you could die.
I like newbies, but I don't go out of my way to carry noobs on my back (yes, there is a huuuge difference between those two concepts!).
On Silver, I play with everyone that has either a sufficiently high N7 rating (at least ten) and a character level of at least 5, and that is the utmost minimum I accept, because everything else is just a liability. I don't have problems with Silver difficulty if the people I play with are decent, but someone that gets constantly killed because his character is frankly underleveled or because he can't possibly have sufficient experience to make up for this disadvantage is simply a burden on the team.
However, when I see someone, even if he's on the low end of my personal scale that barely made it on my list to play with, I help him just as any other, if not more to ensure he gets the experience he is longing for as I would expect others to treat me as a newcomer.
In short, I welcome newcomers and do everything I can to help, as long as they have enough "common" sense to not go in over their heads like those dozens N7 lvl5, character lvl5 dudes I found in the Gold lobbies when I tried to play it. When I see those people, I guffaw a little and exit, there is simply no point in playing with them because A.) they don't have the substance in terms of gameplay capability and B.) they obviously have a very bad judge on their own abilities, meaning they'd be dead at every second possible situation you could die.
I like newbies, but I don't go out of my way to carry noobs on my back (yes, there is a huuuge difference between those two concepts!).
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 01:20
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Eire Icon wrote...
xcrunr1647 wrote...
Eire Icon wrote...
xcrunr1647 wrote...
My theory on picking out brand new players is this: 2 weapons equipped (with a couple exceptions) = new player. 1 weapon equipped = experienced player. It's far from foolproof, but surprisingly effective.
Why do you want to identify new players ?
Mainly because the brand-new players won't understand how the objectives work until they have it 1) explained to them, which I do over voice chat or 2) demonstrated, which I do automatically. It just prepares me to know if I will be the one handling the objectives or not.
You would be surprised how many people ignore the voice cues during a hack or upload, leaving me as the only one doing it lol.
Also, new players will almost always use their missile launcher on an Atlas...something I consider wasteful unless I'm on wave 7+ on gold or my group isn't sutting it and we're being overrun on wave 10 of silver. They run from Phantoms, too...
So, identifying the new players just prepares me for how much of the work I'm going to have to handle, that's all.
some good points there
just because I try to identify the new palyers doesn't make me a snob =P
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 01:30
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Multi player people obsess over scores and leader boards as opposed to having fun so you'll always get it tbh.
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 01:36
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Everyone is welcome in my lobby, so long as you take the flashing light hints when everyone else but you is ready.
When the game starts though, what I hate the most is when your "team mates" totally ignore you when you go down, in favour of potting a few more enemies. I mean, there's no immediate threat around me, that guy/gal who I was just covering is still near me, and then I go down on account of saving their ass and they run off to get more kills! I have palmfaced many times.
When the game starts though, what I hate the most is when your "team mates" totally ignore you when you go down, in favour of potting a few more enemies. I mean, there's no immediate threat around me, that guy/gal who I was just covering is still near me, and then I go down on account of saving their ass and they run off to get more kills! I have palmfaced many times.
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i don't leave bronze even if I'm with all lv 1s cuz when i play bronze I'm playing for fun
but if I'm in a silver game with more than one <7 player I'm out
but if I'm in a silver game with more than one <7 player I'm out
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i don't leave bronze even if I'm with all lv 1s cuz when i play bronze I'm playing for fun
but if I'm in a silver game with more than one <7 player I'm out
Just as I was saying. Everyone was level 1 once, there is no judgement there. But we started at Bronze, made two or three matches to level a bit and accustomed to the gameplay and THEN moved up to Silver.
I simply refuse to play babysitter for the people that think they cn skip that part and outright start with Silver or Gold as some people really do.
No snobbery with that and I will not let players like me (or you) be branded snobs or elitists or whatever derogatory implied terms people can dream up with because of that.
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couldnt have said it better myselfNeofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Bebe77 wrote...
i don't leave bronze even if I'm with all lv 1s cuz when i play bronze I'm playing for fun
but if I'm in a silver game with more than one <7 player I'm out
Just as I was saying. Everyone was level 1 once, there is no judgement there. But we started at Bronze, made two or three matches to level a bit and accustomed to the gameplay and THEN moved up to Silver.
I simply refuse to play babysitter for the people that think they cn skip that part and outright start with Silver or Gold as some people really do.
No snobbery with that and I will not let players like me (or you) be branded snobs or elitists or whatever derogatory implied terms people can dream up with because of that.
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 02:04
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I agree with the points above.
Most of the time, the people who jump into silver or gold matches with an N7 rating of >10 are just looking to get carried, OR (this happened to me a few times when I was just starting) left the match settings at "random difficulty" and got dropped into such a match.
The people like that who brand us elitist/snobbish/<insert derogatory adjective here> ARE looking to get carried. The end.
I mean really, finishing a complete match on bronze will take you from level 1 to level 4 at least >.>
Most of the time, the people who jump into silver or gold matches with an N7 rating of >10 are just looking to get carried, OR (this happened to me a few times when I was just starting) left the match settings at "random difficulty" and got dropped into such a match.
The people like that who brand us elitist/snobbish/<insert derogatory adjective here> ARE looking to get carried. The end.
I mean really, finishing a complete match on bronze will take you from level 1 to level 4 at least >.>
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 02:34
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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
I simply refuse to play babysitter for the people that think they cn skip that part and outright start with Silver or Gold as some people really do.
No snobbery with that and I will not let players like me (or you) be branded snobs or elitists or whatever derogatory implied terms people can dream up with because of that.
Thats all well and good but some people are new to the game and don't actually realise what they're doing. Some people don't frequent these forums and do not even know what gold, silver or bronze is. There are even players new to ME who are still trying to get their head around what a singularity or combat drone is
This is just a demo at the end of the day, points don't carry over. As you can see from these forums there was allot of opposition to the multi-player concept when it was first announced. The majority of ME players are buying ME3 purely for the SP. I would guess they will give MP a shot, but if the people playing the game have little to no tolerence of people being new and not up to speed with whats going then allot of those new players will simply not bother with the MP after that
Then we all lose out !
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 02:48
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I understand people leaving Silver or Gold matches when a low level person enters. On Bronze, no one should leave due to a person's rank/level. I think it's often people leave a Bronze matches for a reason that isn't due to low levels, but it's mistakenly attributed to level because most people are low level on Bronze. For instance, a friend asks to him/her to join a match or a real life distraction interferes with the game.
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 02:52
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Got to wave 8 last night of gold with two 20s, an 18, and a level 8 if I remember correctly
We wound up getting mercilessly slaughtered by waves of phantoms, but the low level guy was a salarian infiltrator with a Widow, and he pulled more than his fair share of the weight.
We wound up getting mercilessly slaughtered by waves of phantoms, but the low level guy was a salarian infiltrator with a Widow, and he pulled more than his fair share of the weight.
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 02:55
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xcrunr1647 wrote...
The people like that who brand us elitist/snobbish/<insert derogatory adjective here> ARE looking to get carried. The end.
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Carried to what end? - what do they achieve by being carried?
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 03:01
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2-3x as much XP and credits as a bronze run for the same amount of time?Eire Icon wrote...
xcrunr1647 wrote...
The people like that who brand us elitist/snobbish/<insert derogatory adjective here> ARE looking to get carried. The end.
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Carried to what end? - what do they achieve by being carried?
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 03:02
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Don't bring your level 1 VG (any class really) into a gold match is all I ask. You will either rage quit, or might as well not be there as you will be dead within 30 sec of every wave.
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 03:08
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So someone at under level 10 comes in, perhaps you have to spend some time watching their back and reviving them and god forbid, you might get a lower score than usual.
The thing is guys, it's a co-op game helping other players esspecially ones at a lower level is part of the challenge, if you can't do that then you aren't quite as amazing at mass effect as you think you are, whatever your n7 rating is.
More to the point, its a demo, a chance to sample the game, most people will just jump on to get a feel for the game, they wont spend time leveling up there character because .... its a demo. Who are you to say they can't try out the silver challenge.
On bronze I play with anyone, it would be dumb not to. I could beat bronze at level 1, why couldn't they? But on silver I won't play with people under level 8 or so because every time I have we have lost.
My personal score doesn't matter that much, since everyone gets the same number of points. What I'm worried about is wiping out on one of the last waves because one of our team members can't cut it. Remember if he's a low N7 level, it won't just be his character that's unprepared, he will be inexperienced as well, and won't know things that people who have played do, like watch out for the chicks with swords, and don't run out in front of turrets.
And I'm not saying he can't try out silver, but he's not going to do it with me.
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 03:11
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Only time I ducked out on level 1s is on Silver and when I was trying to find a game with an open slot so my friend and I could play together along with a team.
Honestly the only time I might duck a game is if it had two N7 1 Vanguards and that's only because if both are new to the class or morons it's going to make the game harder. Granted this is only if I'm playing a low level class. If I was 10+ on bronze I'd say screw it and just attempt it because if they get themselves killed I know how to take out a wave by myself.
Honestly the only time I might duck a game is if it had two N7 1 Vanguards and that's only because if both are new to the class or morons it's going to make the game harder. Granted this is only if I'm playing a low level class. If I was 10+ on bronze I'd say screw it and just attempt it because if they get themselves killed I know how to take out a wave by myself.
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 03:14
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marshalleck wrote...
2-3x as much XP and credits as a bronze run for the same amount of time?Eire Icon wrote...
xcrunr1647 wrote...
The people like that who brand us elitist/snobbish/<insert derogatory adjective here> ARE looking to get carried. The end.
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Carried to what end? - what do they achieve by being carried?
and why would anyone care about that in a demo????
Listen I get allot of you are big into your high scores and stats, but an awful lot of people are not. Allot of people actually download the demo, or any demo to give the game a go, see what they think of it, and get a feeling for stuff. They couldn't give a rats ass about Xp points on a demo, some don't even know what they are probably
