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[Giant ambush beetle]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Maybe since Earth got wrecked, they resorted to using stockpiled supplies of old but reliable weapons.

Also the Mattock is genre-savvy considering their main enemy is the Husk, which resemble zombies. The Mattock is a semi-automatic, which resembles something like the M1 carbine, a staple zombie-fiction weapon. The semi-automatic, basic and more reliable nature of the M1 Carbine makes it more effective against hordes of zombies than say, an M4.

I disagree, the Mattock fires a much more powerful shot than the assault rifles in ME, the M1 carbine shoots a very low powered cartridge, it has less power than the M4 carbine today and it was designed to replace the 1911 pistol without giving the rear echelon soldier a huge rifle like the M1 Garand. It shot a glorified pistol round. 

The Mattock is pretty much the ME's universes' M14, its outdated but its known for its extreme reliability, it fires a projectile three times as heavy as the M4 carbine with the same muzzle velocity, its has good accuracy, its utterly uncontrollable at full auto mode (thats why it doesn't come with the happy switch) and it holds 20 rounds. The military still uses it as Designated Marksman Rifle even though the rifle is basically 70 years old.

In a (civilian) bullpup stock it looks pretty sci-fi:

[Mazzy Fex]

JaegerBane wrote...

Arppis wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Avenger sings my songs better than Mattock does. And she does it gloriously!

In ME2 I'm afraid Ms Avenger spent too much time on the smokes and the drugs. A washed up has been.

Looks like rehab did her good.

I still loved her trough it, nurtured her and kept her butt firmly against my shoulder.

Forget it man, I'm going for the Phaeston, she's younger and everything still points in the right direction

Until Jessie wakes up again and leads an army of sentient guns against the reapers~

Modifié par Mazzy Fex, 23 février 2012 - 06:06 .

[JaegerBane]

Mazzy Fex wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

Arppis wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Avenger sings my songs better than Mattock does. And she does it gloriously!

In ME2 I'm afraid Ms Avenger spent too much time on the smokes and the drugs. A washed up has been.

Looks like rehab did her good.

I still loved her trough it, nurtured her and kept her butt firmly against my shoulder.

Forget it man, I'm going for the Phaeston, she's younger and everything still points in the right direction

Until Jessie wakes up again and leads an army of sentient guns against the reapers~

Yeah, just smack the reapers to death with it. There's life in the old girl yet!

[incinerator950]

Mazzy Fex wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

Arppis wrote...

JaegerBane wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Avenger sings my songs better than Mattock does. And she does it gloriously!

In ME2 I'm afraid Ms Avenger spent too much time on the smokes and the drugs. A washed up has been.

Looks like rehab did her good.

I still loved her trough it, nurtured her and kept her butt firmly against my shoulder.

Forget it man, I'm going for the Phaeston, she's younger and everything still points in the right direction

Until Jessie wakes up again and leads an army of sentient guns against the reapers~

Bug Man still uses the reliable Collector Assault Rifle.

[Sylvara]

I still like the Avenger. Use a high-level stability mod and extra ammo capacity, and I can actually see why the Alliance stocks the Avenger as the basic AR.

[casedawgz]

To me the Mattock is useless. I think the Viper can pretty much do the same thing, with greater effectiveness. And since my engineer can use an assault rifle and a sniper rifle and still come out ahead on cooldowns, I have no reason to ever stop using my viper/vindicator combo.

[XDMMX]

Strange so many people compare the Mattock to the AK-47, the most overrated assault riffle ever manufactured, that suffers from poor accuracy and horrible ergonomics.

An M-14 or the FN FAL would be a more apt comparison.

Fun Fact: the M-96 Mattock shares the same designation as the robinson armament M-96.

Modifié par XDMMX, 23 février 2012 - 06:38 .

[hectorkbrn]

The Revenant with all the upgrades (especially the accuracy one) in ME 2 is pretty kick ass.

1 clip will take everything down. (Except Bosses maybe)

In addition to it's vast amount of rounds....

It's the only reason I survived the game on Insanity.

[incinerator950]

hectorkbrn wrote...

The Revenant with all the upgrades (especially the accuracy one) in ME 2 is pretty kick ass.

1 clip will take everything down. (Except Bosses maybe)

In addition to it's vast amount of rounds....

It's the only reason I survived the game on Insanity.

You might be dissapointed with it in ME 3 then, I am so far with the Demo.

[khankar]

XDMMX wrote...

Strange so many people compare the Mattock to the AK-47, the most overrated assault riffle ever manufactured, that suffers from poor accuracy and horrible ergonomics.

An M-14 or the FN FAL would be a more apt comparison.

An AK may have less accuracy and horrible ergonomics but it is one of the most reliable weapons arround.

A fancy ultra modern rifle is useless unless you can fire it.

Anyway, Mattock still rocks

[casedawgz]

XDMMX wrote...

Strange so many people compare the Mattock to the AK-47, the most overrated assault riffle ever manufactured, that suffers from poor accuracy and horrible ergonomics.

An M-14 or the FN FAL would be a more apt comparison.

Fun Fact: the M-96 Mattock shares the same designation as the robinson armament M-96.

The AK-47 isn't popular because it's an effective weapon, its popular because its an idiot-proof and durable weapon. It's really easy to take apart and clean compared to other rifles, which makes it popular with militia and other less trained users. With even minimal effort, you can keep an AK-47 working effectively for decades. Also, it handles mud a lot better than the M-16 if that's an issue. 

[xX N7 Xx]

I use the M76 Revenant and I always will.

[Julia343]

Mattock is the best. But if you're having one of "those" nights... you don't need to be a better shot, you need to shoot more bullets -- revenant is the best.

Why? What made the Mattock the best in ME2 was the glitch in Adrenaline Rush that didn't time dilate the shots per second like it did with every other weapon, thus allowing the Mattock to fire faster and more accurately than anything else. However, in ME3 that is no longer the case. So I'll go with the Revenant as the favored weapon against hordes of zombies (aka husks).

[Sinnerj117]

DragonTIM wrote...

 Ok so acording to Illusive Mans e-mail the gun is quide old and was used by coloniests.
In ME3 many Cerberus troops use it Shepard uses it and in the Take Earth back trailer you can see Alliance troops using them.
So how did coloniests old semi-auto assault rifle become a major weapon of different military factions?

You mean old as in a gentleman's weapon.

[XDMMX]

khankar wrote...

An AK may have less accuracy and horrible ergonomics but it is one of the most reliable weapons arround.

A fancy ultra modern rifle is useless unless you can fire it.

Anyway, Mattock still rocks

Ive operated a lot of AK's, there legendary reliability is an exaggeration, they malfunction and jam just like every other weapon system out there, what makes the AK popular is that you can train an uneducated peasant or child to use it and you can manufacture a lot of them quickly.

There are many effective and reliable, modern weapon systems out there today.

[MakeMineMako]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Maybe since Earth got wrecked, they resorted to using stockpiled supplies of old but reliable weapons.

Also the Mattock is genre-savvy considering their main enemy is the Husk, which resemble zombies. The Mattock is a semi-automatic, which resembles something like the M1 carbine, a staple zombie-fiction weapon. The semi-automatic, basic and more reliable nature of the M1 Carbine makes it more effective against hordes of zombies than say, an M4. This basically translates right into ME3 with not only the description of the Mattock, but also its functionality.

In short, whoever made the trailer probably read World War Z and the Zombie Survival Guide.

Max Brooks is the last person I would consult on firearms, for any reason. It seems to me he got most of his information from some damned Geocities site rather than legit firearms sources. His 'facts" in the ZSG is a friggin' joke.

Anyway....


I liked the M-96 for it's accuracy and punch in ME2, despite leaning more toward the "classical" assault rifles.

As for it's performance in ME3, I'll just have to wait and see.

[incinerator950]

XDMMX wrote...

khankar wrote...

An AK may have less accuracy and horrible ergonomics but it is one of the most reliable weapons arround.

A fancy ultra modern rifle is useless unless you can fire it.

Anyway, Mattock still rocks

Ive operated a lot of AK's, there legendary reliability is an exaggeration, they malfunction and jam just like every other weapon system out there, what makes the AK popular is that you can train an uneducated peasant or child to use it and you can manufacture a lot of them quickly.

There are many effective and reliable, modern weapon systems out there today.

Shhh, they don't need to know that.

[GuardianAngel470]

Given the choice it's all about the M-98 to me.

Failing that, I use the M-96 to get a lot of high-power shots down range as quickly and as accurately as possible. If need be I can fire the M-96 at a comparable rate to the Avenger while never needing to worry about bullet spead.

I pull the trigger and I hit my target. That's why I like the M-96.

It did get nerfed in the demo though, but I also haven't found any upgrades for it yet.

[GuardianAngel470]

The Woldan wrote...

Is it weird that I think this is the sexiest picture I've seen on this forum?

There must be something wrong with me...

[CBKeffer]

XDMMX wrote...

khankar wrote...

An AK may have less accuracy and horrible ergonomics but it is one of the most reliable weapons arround.

A fancy ultra modern rifle is useless unless you can fire it.

Anyway, Mattock still rocks

Ive operated a lot of AK's, there legendary reliability is an exaggeration, they malfunction and jam just like every other weapon system out there, what makes the AK popular is that you can train an uneducated peasant or child to use it and you can manufacture a lot of them quickly.

There are many effective and reliable, modern weapon systems out there today.

This, and they are dirt cheap to do so, whereas the more modern systems tend to be pretty pricey to produce and  operate. 

[Aligalipe]

XDMMX wrote...

khankar wrote...

An AK may have less accuracy and horrible ergonomics but it is one of the most reliable weapons arround.

A fancy ultra modern rifle is useless unless you can fire it.

Anyway, Mattock still rocks

Ive operated a lot of AK's, there legendary reliability is an exaggeration, they malfunction and jam just like every other weapon system out there, what makes the AK popular is that you can train an uneducated peasant or child to use it and you can manufacture a lot of them quickly.

There are many effective and reliable, modern weapon systems out there today.

Its still one of the -if not THE- most used rifle in the Earth, and even though we have access to more advanced weapons systems, my country still uses it, usually those acquired from terrorists. The reason most people in ME universe use mattock is same as AK-47, its easier to find, probably cheap, and still reliable.

[Hoot42]

Its accurate and hits like a truck. M-8 is week and the Reviant sprays too much.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

I perfer the Avenger and I love the Relevant. I hate the Mattock and the Vindicator.

[Navasha]

Because its highly accurate. Higher damage doesn't mean much if most of your shots miss. Throw on the stability mod so that there is almost no kickback and you can rapid fire on target very quickly.

[D. Carmine]

Because Mattock is very similar to Matlock, and Matlock was a badass.

And something about the Mattock being really powerful and accurate, with little kickback, whatever.