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[Lycidas]

D.Kain wrote...

Lycidas wrote...

So basically you want to sit behind some cover -> throw some blue ball of instant death at a (group) of enemies for the cost of half your barriers -> go back into cover and wait for your barriers to refresh -> repeat?
That's it?
You sir are either a troll or your idea of fun makes my mind implode...honestly.

No, that is not what I want to do. That would make for most ineffective kill rate. I want to run around, shoot enemies throwing the most dangerous ones to death at the cost of half barrier. Then at the sight of a good situation toss a group of enemies, wait till I can get back into the fight, if I don't die, and be on my way further.

You do realize a Vanguard gives up min. 50% Barriers in CQC for less than you actually want for a long range skill?

[O66 Jenova]

shockwafe lift has the option to do biotic explosions. singularity is only weak on races that are shield based

[2_BR4ZIL_2]

Biotic needs a buff? my experience as Asari tells me otherwise

[maxulic]

Hyrist wrote...

(...) And to further extrapolate on this, we've no idea how the other factions are going to function. We're making assumptions completely on Cerberus.

We may have to deal with far more armor/barrier based opponents in the other factions, which will make biotics such as Warp far more effective.

And you can't stasis an Atlas or a Turret - if this is any indication of Synthtics in general, you're going to HATE the Geth.

That's what I am also expecting. Cerberus still has a bunch of unshielded minions. Then we will most likely have Geth, which means a bunch of shields to strip and I expect something similar to Collectors with barriers/armors (these Batarian cannibals?).

Modifié par maxulic, 24 février 2012 - 01:48 .

[Random citizen]

Hyrist wrote...

Lore is not Gospel. Especially involving gaming lore.

I find using such as a defense to all arguments be rather infuriating. Especially concerning powers. Gameplay superceeds lore. Otherwise you could have just followed Jack around and let her loose as she tore apart most the collectors single handedly.

You got it wrong. it should read: .. "Otherwise you end up with a gameplay that is situated in the world it describes.
If you followed Jack around in such a setting, it would probably means critical mission failure or that things you would want to be intact are broken."

[D.Kain]

Lycidas wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

Lycidas wrote...

So basically you want to sit behind some cover -> throw some blue ball of instant death at a (group) of enemies for the cost of half your barriers -> go back into cover and wait for your barriers to refresh -> repeat?
That's it?
You sir are either a troll or your idea of fun makes my mind implode...honestly.

No, that is not what I want to do. That would make for most ineffective kill rate. I want to run around, shoot enemies throwing the most dangerous ones to death at the cost of half barrier. Then at the sight of a good situation toss a group of enemies, wait till I can get back into the fight, if I don't die, and be on my way further.

You do realize a Vanguard gives up min. 50% Barriers in CQC for less than you actually want for a long range skill?

Vanguard gives up nothing, he has Charge to reacharge his barrier. usually, and I propose Vanguards charge also take away barrier, and buff up both charge and nova.

[The Spamming Troll]

2_BR4ZIL_2 wrote...

Biotic needs a buff? my experience as Asari tells me otherwise

U dont get the complaint then.

Stasis is a bonus power that makes any class that uses it an effective biotic comparable to an adept.

I cant beleive the adept doesnt feature the best biotic ability the MEuniverse has to offer.

[D.Kain]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

2_BR4ZIL_2 wrote...

Biotic needs a buff? my experience as Asari tells me otherwise

U dont get the complaint then.

Stasis is a bonus power that makes any class that uses it an effective biotic comparable to an adept.

I cant beleive the adept doesnt feature the best biotic ability the MEuniverse has to offer.

The best is Nova, and it is a Vanguard power yes.

[darkblade]

Under this system vanguards would be horribly overpowered.

[Wulfram]

O66 Jenova wrote...

shockwafe lift has the option to do biotic explosions.

It hardly seems to last long enough for me.

singularity is only weak on races that are shield based

Does it work on Armour then?

[D.Kain]

darkblade wrote...

Under this system vanguards would be horribly overpowered.

Because there is nothing more overpowering like Charge draining barriers instead of restoring them.

[Chriss0978]

D.Kain wrote...

darkblade wrote...

Under this system vanguards would be horribly overpowered.

Because there is nothing more overpowering like Charge draining barriers instead of restoring them.

I already told you this. Repeatedly. Vanguards use Charge to stay alive when surrounded by multiple enemies. If you make the Charge DRAIN the barrier when used, you are making Charge completely USELESS. To compensate for that, you'd have to increase the Charge's damage and THAT would make the Vanguard way too powerful, even someone who isn't a particularly good Vanguard would kill WAY too many enemies. And that is completely unfair to people who use other classes.

[D.Kain]

Chriss0978 wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

darkblade wrote...

Under this system vanguards would be horribly overpowered.

Because there is nothing more overpowering like Charge draining barriers instead of restoring them.

I already told you this. Repeatedly. Vanguards use Charge to stay alive when surrounded by multiple enemies. If you make the Charge DRAIN the barrier when used, you are making Charge completely USELESS. To compensate for that, you'd have to increase the Charge's damage and THAT would make the Vanguard way too powerful, even someone who isn't a particularly good Vanguard would kill WAY too many enemies. And that is completely unfair to people who use other classes.

No, because you would use charge and nova less, since it wouldn't have a 2,5 cooldown, but would your barriers to recharge.