Is a Dalish elf fun to play as? I'm still deciding on being a warrior or rogue, but at the moment I'm more interested in finding out if the dialog, game events, and even if there's any special rewards that are good for a Dalish elf, if they're even different at all. I would go with another dwarf, but I've never had an elf character, or even finished the Dalish origin, so now's as good a time as any. Thanks!
Playing as a Dalish elf?
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Dendybar
, nov. 25 2009 03:10
#1
Posté 25 novembre 2009 - 03:10
#2
Posté 25 novembre 2009 - 03:13
I would imagine the biggest differnece out side of the origin would be "The Nature of the Beast" Would be interesting. I'll have to try it sometime.
#3
Posté 25 novembre 2009 - 03:17
I find it fun to play as a Dalish,
. The origin story was good fun in my opinion, and I like ranged combat so it was natural to pick a Dalish for my second playthrough (Elves are always the best Archers, he he). I don't know of special rewards, but I know you get an amulet before the origin story ends, and you get to find some Dalish lore that I personally didn't find as a Mage (as far as I can remember, anyway, I might have...). As for being an Elf in general, you will get some different dialogue.
#4
Posté 25 novembre 2009 - 03:25
My Dalish Elf is loads of fun. She's a Rogue Assassin/Duelist and is very stealthy and has good crits. I also liked the origin and lore of the elves.
I always start out playing an elf. One of these days I'll have to try a dwarf.
I always start out playing an elf. One of these days I'll have to try a dwarf.
#5
Posté 25 novembre 2009 - 03:41
Any tips on how to be successful with tactics? I played as a mage and had fun beat the game I am now attempting a dalish elf rogue and I really suck but I love my elf girl she is so cool.
#6
Posté 25 novembre 2009 - 03:49
I played Dalish up to about L15 and I have to say I wasn't impressed by how the game reacted to that. It only really shows when you go visit your own people. Human noble and mage seem to have more effect on conversations.
#7
Posté 25 novembre 2009 - 03:58
frostajulie wrote...
Any tips on how to be successful with tactics? I played as a mage and had fun beat the game I am now attempting a dalish elf rogue and I really suck but I love my elf girl she is so cool.
I'd have some melee support. Have two Warriors with tactics such as Threaten and Taunt to draw enemy attention. In addition to that you can also wear armor that has 'Reduce hostility' as an extra benefit. Remain a good distance away from battles, use disrupting abilities such as Pinning Shot if any stragglers rush at you,
and Crippling Shot to weaken targets of your Warriors. Basically, take on the role of crowd-control from the back.
#8
Posté 25 novembre 2009 - 04:07
I have to say that i had chosen a Dalish Elf origin for my main char before DA:O was even released..to me,their description was perfect..a rebel band of nomadic elves roaming the forests preserving their lost culture at all costs.However,i suppose my imagination got the better of me because i was horribly dissapointed when i started my Dalish char..elves in DA seem so weak..sure they have the lore and tradtional elvish culture we all know and love..and i know that being weak is expected considering their lot in the world of DA..but they lack any type of viciousness in my opinion,nothing to make you actually proud of being an Elf.I much preferred playing as a human noble (seems to me that most of the main storyline in DA was written around that Origin in terms of story immersion) or a dwarf of either origin...since dwarves are in many ways,more fleshed out as a society then any other race in the game.
If choosing a Dalish char changes anything dramatically in terms of storyline..i doubt,its pretty easy to spot the storyline choke points that matter,but im sure there are some small moments here and there that allow for different responses depending on race.
If choosing a Dalish char changes anything dramatically in terms of storyline..i doubt,its pretty easy to spot the storyline choke points that matter,but im sure there are some small moments here and there that allow for different responses depending on race.
#9
Posté 25 novembre 2009 - 04:48
In terms of tactics, my rogue usually scouts ahead using stealth to scope out the enemy and disable traps. Put the rest of your party on hold to do this. If you put points in 'survival' you can usually see how many enemies you're going to face beforehand.
My rogue dual wields daggers at the moment and with good armor and enchanted daggers does pretty good backstab damage. I focused on the flurry/momentum line and stealth mostly but also some points in archery so that she can do damage no matter what the circumstance.
Hope that helps.
My rogue dual wields daggers at the moment and with good armor and enchanted daggers does pretty good backstab damage. I focused on the flurry/momentum line and stealth mostly but also some points in archery so that she can do damage no matter what the circumstance.
Hope that helps.
#10
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 03:45
I realize this thread pertains more to the story aspect than it does to character attributes, but just thought I'd share in case anyone was interested. Elves gain a racial bonus of +2 magic and +2 willpower. Humans get +1 strength, +1 dexterity, +1 magic, and +1 cunning. Dwarfs get +1 strength, +1 dexterity, +2 constitution, and 10% chance to resist hostile magic. So it seems the best possible set-ups would be Dwarf - Warrior, Elf - Mage, and Human - Rogue.
#11
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 03:50
I tried a Dalish Elf after I had already tried Noble Human, Mage Elf, and City Elf.
I felt like the Dalish had the weakest Origin story. The others had interesting plots and characters with intrigue etc... The Dalish story seemed like "go through this small dungeon twice; now you're a Gray Warden."
I felt like the Dalish had the weakest Origin story. The others had interesting plots and characters with intrigue etc... The Dalish story seemed like "go through this small dungeon twice; now you're a Gray Warden."
#12
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 04:24
I don't know about origins stories, I've done 3 and they're all different. But I played through as a human mage, and did not have as much unique dialog about people calling me knife-ears and assuming my char should be a runaway slave and such. Also, the run through the Dalish part of the MQ had a lot more dialog options.
I suspect that a lot of folks who notice no difference are skipping a lot of dialog becase they bore easily, and that's where the differences really lay. If you don't do the dialog, you won't notice. If you do, you will.
I suspect that a lot of folks who notice no difference are skipping a lot of dialog becase they bore easily, and that's where the differences really lay. If you don't do the dialog, you won't notice. If you do, you will.
#13
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 06:29
My first character was a daelish elf primarily because I thought he was as the other games a bad ass and a cut above the rest, high in the caste so to mean. But I got the surprise of my experience when after a while the daelish were in fact treated as inferior and only served as slaves hence the city elf.
Another surprise I got is even the city elves were somewhat combative in the treatment of my character Theron, yeah don't ask Theron again. I'm left to wonder how the Maker's paws would I pull off the journey of gathering the army.
Playing daelish was really a pain and somewhat challenging because if you study their origin they are the best hunters hence rogue and the best mages albeit arcane warrior or reaver. My character was a two-hand great sword wielder and the user of Faith's Edge until the final onslaught.
I ended up making a deal with Morrigan because I wanted my character to survive and make it known that the elves were destined for greatness once more. I ended up asking for a land for the elves and I was honored by my clan.
Overall, being daelish was very challenging yet more alive than the usual commoner or noble variety. Their strengths are inclined more for rogues and mages.
Another surprise I got is even the city elves were somewhat combative in the treatment of my character Theron, yeah don't ask Theron again. I'm left to wonder how the Maker's paws would I pull off the journey of gathering the army.
Playing daelish was really a pain and somewhat challenging because if you study their origin they are the best hunters hence rogue and the best mages albeit arcane warrior or reaver. My character was a two-hand great sword wielder and the user of Faith's Edge until the final onslaught.
I ended up making a deal with Morrigan because I wanted my character to survive and make it known that the elves were destined for greatness once more. I ended up asking for a land for the elves and I was honored by my clan.
Overall, being daelish was very challenging yet more alive than the usual commoner or noble variety. Their strengths are inclined more for rogues and mages.
#14
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 06:41
I played as a Dalish elf for my first playthrough. After playing a couple other origin stories through the majority of the game, the Dalish really lack impact in comparison.
#15
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 06:55
I've only done two playthroughs - my first was my go-to wood/forest elf, and I thought it was fine until I went through as a human noble and people reacted more to my noble than my Dalish. I'm going to try a City Elf and see what people think of me.
#16
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 07:16
I love the Dalish Elves, definitely my favorite race. They're always underestimated and are the underdogs of Ferelden that still persevere. Though the huge turn off is the racial stats, if that is you're looking to min / max. Another thing I noticed is that it's quite impossible to make an elf with pointy ears say as Zevran or Tamlen. The PC Elf's ears never stick out and point, they just look like Human ears from the front.
#17
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 07:25
The origin is very lackluster. Worst one by far.
#18
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 07:35
I liked the Dalish Origin. It may have been lackluster, but I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed the dungeon feeling I got from it. It made me feel quite nostalgic.
Otherwise, being a Dalish definitely gives you a lot of varied dialogue compared to the other Origins.
Otherwise, being a Dalish definitely gives you a lot of varied dialogue compared to the other Origins.
#19
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 07:37
I haven't played past the origin myself. I was terribly put of by it as I had played all the others before it. Perhaps it makes up for the lackluster origin with extra dialog on the way.
#20
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 08:22
In my experience, with my Dalish rogue, you get *many* varied dialogue options. Especially when it comes to the maker. "I'm not familiar with your HUMAN god."
#21
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 09:15
The City Elf origin is just flat out better than the Dalish origin.
You also get most of the same dialogue options as a Dalish one would since they're both elves.
You also get most of the same dialogue options as a Dalish one would since they're both elves.
#22
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 10:15
iam a dalish 2h warrior playing solo on hard atm...lemme tell ya iam having quite a blast with the challenge loving every second
#23
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Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 02:21
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The interesting thing about the dalish elves is their lore and their lacking knowledge of the world outside of their clan. I personally enjoyed playing a dalish. You do have a few opportunities to speak with your companions about your past, your culture, the practice of magic within dalish clans (Morrigan is particulary interested in this part) and surely the "Nature of the Beast" - questline is an entirely different experience for a dalish than for any other origin.
Plus I just love the "I don't KNOW your human ways" - answers you can get...
Plus I just love the "I don't KNOW your human ways" - answers you can get...
#24
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 08:43
rumination888 wrote...
The City Elf origin is just flat out better than the Dalish origin.
You also get most of the same dialogue options as a Dalish one would since they're both elves.
Not really. Throughout the City Elf origin the elves explicitly pray to The Maker as opposed to the elven pantheon. You can try and strat fights about the Dales being wiped out, but other than that the difference is negligible.
#25
Posté 26 novembre 2009 - 10:43
Playing a Dalish Rogue right now that's pretty fun. Can't wait to see what, if anything, is different when you go to the Alienage.





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