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The Majestic TIM/Cerberus Blood Brotherhood discussion/support thread (Spoilers)


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#251
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Seboist wrote...

I take great pleasure in knowing that the white knight Paragons will have their Shepards and waifu/husbandus burning in hell with TIM tormenting them for all eternity.


"No, TIM! Stop insulting us!"
"You're more incompetent than Cerberus, you blew up the entire ****ing galaxy!"
"I didn't mean to! The end justified the means! :'("
"That's my line!"
"Well, you were working with the Reapers! You were just as bad!"
"I have an excuse, I was indoctrinated by the writers!"
*Shepard cries*

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Lol, did you make that?


And Lotion, you said it. Same feeling here.

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Watching SeBROist rage in this thread has been quite funny, but the rage of white knight paragons once the game hits will be majestic.

I guess there's a kind of beautiful irony to it all. That those who had advocated most against branching storylines, decisive Choices and Consequences, and moral ambiguity (in the form of Renegades and Cerberus) for the sake of canon, continuity and heroics; would be the most burnt by it.

Great job, BioWare.

:wizard:

Not quite sure what you mean. Wasn't it a major selling point of the Renegade ending as evidenced by the leaked script that exactly not everyone was f*cked, and don't the endings as presented deprive us of that? At least that would make a great deal more sense than the contrived consequences we get now. And Paragons still get extra cake in form of that "perfect" ending, even if it means they're only 95% f*cked instead of 100% like everyone else.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Seboist wrote...

I take great pleasure in knowing that the white knight Paragons will have their Shepards and waifu/husbandus burning in hell with TIM tormenting them for all eternity.


"No, TIM! Stop insulting us!"
"You're more incompetent than Cerberus, you blew up the entire ****ing galaxy!"
"I didn't mean to! The end justified the means! :'("
"That's my line!"
"Well, you were working with the Reapers! You were just as bad!"
"I have an excuse, I was indoctrinated by the writers!"
*Shepard cries*


Dr.Gavin Archer will be there to hook up Shepard and the LI to bizarre contraptions that serve no purpose but shock value to torture them too.

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It will still be painful for them and that's as much as we're gonna get.

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In the end the lesson is... no matter how hard you try it won't be enough. I like that.

I know Bioware more then likely handles it quite clumsily but it really is quite a beautifully poignant message.

That combined with the sadistic joy I'm getting from all this almost subsides the hate I have towards ME3.

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The relays blowing up regardless of what ending you've chosen smells of contrived.

I enjoyed the Paragon ending resulting in everybody being separated, thousands of colonies starving and the armies on Earth probably wouldn't see their loved ones again at the cost of no more Reapers. Except that just happens to be every ending now, we just get to choose what colour the explosion is.

They don't even explain what Control does or why Merge is viable, it's just "oh hey, it happens". Why is Merge a good idea? What's the bad of it? Why is control a good idea? ect.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...
Watching SeBROist rage in this thread has been quite funny, but the rage of white knight paragons once the game hits will be majestic.

I guess there's a kind of beautiful irony to it all. That those who had advocated most against branching storylines, decisive Choices and Consequences, and moral ambiguity (in the form of Renegades and Cerberus) for the sake of canon, continuity and heroics; would be the most burnt by it.

Great job, BioWare.

:wizard:

Not quite sure what you mean. Wasn't it a major selling point of the Renegade ending as evidenced by the leaked script that exactly not everyone was f*cked, and don't the endings as presented deprive us of that? At least that would make a great deal more sense than the contrived consequences we get now. And Paragons still get extra cake in form of that "perfect" ending, even if it means they're only 95% f*cked instead of 100% like everyone else.


Ieldra you have my condolences for having Liara take up your fave character's residence on the Normandy and replacing her in a flashback sequence.

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I know Bioware more then likely handles it quite clumsily but it really is quite a beautifully poignant message.

That combined with the sadistic joy I'm getting from all this almost subsides the hate I have towards ME3.


You guys are so bad.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

GodWood wrote...
I know Bioware more then likely handles it quite clumsily but it really is quite a beautifully poignant message.

That combined with the sadistic joy I'm getting from all this almost subsides the hate I have towards ME3.


You guys are so bad.


It's good to be bad. It's liberating. Try it sometime.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...
You guys are so bad.

We've been on the receiving end for a year now, it's about time we get some sadistic joy.

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lol @ both of you.

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GodWood wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
You guys are so bad.

We've been on the receiving end for a year now, it's about time we get some sadistic joy.


The Paragon white knights are reaping what they've sown.

The brotherhood's on the offensive now baby.

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You know, an interesting ending and more plausible way to beat the Reapers might have involved blowing up the Citadel. Like, first activating it as a mass relay and THEN causing it to go critical somehow.

This time there is no escape, not Shepard, not for anybody fighting in the final battle. Our chance to kill the Reapers comes, but an entire cluster will be wiped out (perhaps more), and everyone fighting in the final battle will die.

So you get a choice: you open the Citadel mass relay and let the Reapers escape through it, or you blow it up and kill yourself and everybody within 20,000 light years.

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Seboist wrote...

The Paragon white knights are reaping what they've sown.

The brotherhood's on the offensive now baby.


What exactly did they sow, that they are now reaping?

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Saphra Deden wrote...

You know, an interesting ending and more plausible way to beat the Reapers might have involved blowing up the Citadel. Like, first activating it as a mass relay and THEN causing it to go critical somehow.

This time there is no escape, not Shepard, not for anybody fighting in the final battle. Our chance to kill the Reapers comes, but an entire cluster will be wiped out (perhaps more), and everyone fighting in the final battle will die.

So you get a choice: you open the Citadel mass relay and let the Reapers escape through it, or you blow it up and kill yourself and everybody within 20,000 light years.


If we're sure it will wipe out the Reapers, I'd be for it.

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What exactly did they sow, that they are now reaping?


Arrogance, entitlement, and hypocrisy.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

You know, an interesting ending and more plausible way to beat the Reapers might have involved blowing up the Citadel. Like, first activating it as a mass relay and THEN causing it to go critical somehow.

This time there is no escape, not Shepard, not for anybody fighting in the final battle. Our chance to kill the Reapers comes, but an entire cluster will be wiped out (perhaps more), and everyone fighting in the final battle will die.

So you get a choice: you open the Citadel mass relay and let the Reapers escape through it, or you blow it up and kill yourself and everybody within 20,000 light years.


Frankly, just forcing the Reapers to retreat back beyond the edge of the galaxy could probably be construed as a victory, no matter what other problems the galaxy is now facing. Not as absolute as destroying them all outright, mind you, but...anybody ever played Warcraft II? Beyond the Dark Portal? 

Also, this is getting a bit spoilerish, so I bid you all goodnight. 

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A few people went around praising everything Paragon and how they'd sacrifice themselves and their happiness to bring galactic harmony are suddenly being in arms about how ME3 is pointless and ruined the trilogy because they can't be with their LI or get a "happy" ending does bring a smile to my face.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 29 février 2012 - 08:18 .


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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Seboist wrote...

The Paragon white knights are reaping what they've sown.

The brotherhood's on the offensive now baby.


What exactly did they sow, that they are now reaping?


"Cerberus were always evil lol!" "DEAL WITH IT!" "you should have picked the winning side!" "ME3 is a great morality lesson!".etc etc.

Basically that we should (in the words of Nick Manning) "take your fucking" when it came to what was done with Cerberus and the Renegade path. Well, now it's time for them to take theirs.

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"Cerberus were always evil lol!" "DEAL WITH IT!" "you should have picked the winning side!" "ME3 is a great morality lesson!".etc etc.

Basically that we should (in the words of Nick Manning) "take your fucking" when it came to what was done with Cerberus and the Renegade path. Well, now it's time for them to take theirs.


Ah, I see.

I can understand that.

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Wait, one more post.

Dave of Canada wrote...

A few people went around praising everything Paragon and how they'd sacrifice themselves and their happiness to bring galactic harmony suddenly being in arms about how ME3 is pointless and ruined the trilogy because they can't be with their LI does bring a smile to my face.


Which, funnily enough, is pretty much the same thing RenShep says at the end of Bring Down The Sky, about the closest thing to a character defining line he gets. 

Meanwhile the Paragon options are generally more the "I feel good, I'm a hero, damn the potential consequences" type. 

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Seboist wrote...

I take great pleasure in knowing that the white knight Paragons will have their Shepards and waifu/husbandus burning in hell with TIM tormenting them for all eternity.

amen brother

#274
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All I know, I'd do the control ending. Least then I could download myself into a robotic body and have crippled pilots flirt with my awesome body.

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Dave, that SWM quote is HILARIOUS. It's wonderful seeing that TWERP butthurt over this.