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[Neil Decurio]

Ok, I am a bit stumped here now.

There's codex entries entitled The Shaper's Life, listing under Quest-Related in the Journal Codex, so I assume they are supposed to start/be related to a quest. By the little information I could find on the subject, I gathered that there is in fact a quest entitled the same "The Shaper's Life" wich is supposedly started in the Shaperate of Orzimmar, by clicking on the Wall of Memories in the back.

This I am 95% sure was not 'visible/clickable' when I visited the Shaperate before siding with anyone, and as much as I've gathered, you'll need to click the 3 "runestones" that are located at the entrace to Deep Roads, in Caridin's Crossing and the Deep Trenches and then return to the Shaperate to click the Wall of Memories again to complete the quest. But I don't believe I was able to click the Wall of Memories in the back there before I had found the 3 "runestones"..

Basically, I am starting to wonder if this quest is in fact broken on the PC version and not possible to initiate/complete. And regardless, I view it as broken that you can bork the quest by clicking on the "runestones" before the Wall of Memories, rendering it impossible to complete. Am I missing something here, or is this in fact broken (at least on the PC version)? Anyone been able to initiate and/or complete this quest?

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Another quest related to the Shaperate, is "The Golem Registry", wich when handed in does not give any XP or reward at all. It seems to be bugged, as the Shaper does say he hopes I will like the ancient relic from their archives. Have postponed handing this quest in, in hopes that it will get patched eventually.

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At Redcliffe Castle, there is a object that you can click for the codex entry "A Rolled-up Note" wich also lists under the Journal Codex as Quest-Related, again leading me to believe there is supposedly a quest that should initiate or that there are something related to it someplace else after finding it (or that something you find prior to it should conclude the quest on finding that note, etc.)..

In short, the note tells of a person named Branan, who was born in Rainesfere and about his life and struggles. It ends with something that seems like an request, wich goes like this (bolded parts that struck me as most interesting):

Whoever you are, whatever they've brought you here for, if you leave this place, I hope you'll go to Rainesfere. There is no living remnant of us left there, but you'll find my family all the same. We're stamped onto the earth. We're in the wind that rustles the trees. Tell my family how I died, and I promise you, they'll hear.

It almost sounds like there was supposed to be a map spawn for Rainesfere, and in Teagan's codex entry, it says that he holds the bannorn of Rainesfere, a tiny province of Redcliffe's, squeezed between Lake Calenhad and Frostback Mountains. Haven't tried moving back and forth between those two map points all too much, so I guess it could be a 'random' world encounter there, will have to try it out a little.

I have yet to find anything related though, so if someone has found anything, information would be most welcomed. I guess it could also be a quest that they cut from the game, a future DLC perhaps, or something messed up with the PC version (if it exists on the consoles, there's very little information about it at least on the net).

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On another note; why does Of Noble Birth actually display as 'failed' under Completed Orzimmar quests when you are not of Dwarven Origin? It's a minor cosmetical thing, but when did my Human Mage manage to get a Dwarven lass pregnant and "failing to give his son a chance at a decent life, one that he deserves"? I don't think that quest should list at all unless you initiated it, and I see that as a minor bug as well.

PS: Seems I clicked on the wrong SPOILERS forum, but I guess it can be gameplay related to not be able to complete a quest *cough* If a moderator pops in here, feel free to move it over to the Dragon Age: Origins Official Campaign Forum (SPOILERS)

Modifié par Neil Decurio, 28 novembre 2009 - 03:27 .

[ComTrav]

Of Noble Birth actually displays "failed" for me, too, even though I can go to Orzammer, find the mother, and she'll cheer about how her son is a noble at last.



Harrowmont can't do anything right. He's probably the reason Arlessa Isolde is incorrectly listed as dead in my codex, too.

[Costello_Anasazi]

I was wondering if there is a 3rd option for King. While looting Harrowmonts place I found a scroll talking of the kings second son being sent into exile and wondered if it was possible to find him or what happened to him. As it stands you can either put a tyrant on the throne an option that sits poorly or you can put a useless bean countering traditionalist. Neither appear to be the good option that we have with redcliff or the elves where you take a more difficult path but get better results.

[Kepha]

Costello_Anasazi wrote...

I was wondering if there is a 3rd option for King. While looting Harrowmonts place I found a scroll talking of the kings second son being sent into exile and wondered if it was possible to find him or what happened to him. As it stands you can either put a tyrant on the throne an option that sits poorly or you can put a useless bean countering traditionalist. Neither appear to be the good option that we have with redcliff or the elves where you take a more difficult path but get better results.

The other son is the Dwarf Noble PC.  If you're not playing that origin you can't find him, and he plays no further role in the game.  If you are playing that origin, well you know what happened to him/her.

[Leonia]

Speaking of the Shaperate, I've had trouble turning in the quest "The Dead Caste", supposedly I should talk to the Shaper and have the Legion of the Dead recognised as a noble house but there are no options for this. As for the Shaper's Life quest, I think I messed it up as well by clicking the runes before the wall, though I never realised I had been given an actual quest (thought it was all just codex stuff).



As for the dwarf noble, you pretty much do the politics in Orzammar the same way a non-noble dwarf would do it, the dialogue from both sides of the fence is pretty much the same and you cannot put yourself on the throne. In fact, the only way to restore your name of Aeducan is to side with Bhelen (even though he is the reason you were exiled to begin with). You don't get to put yourself as king/queen and you aren't given the option to "work for Bhelen" with the the intention of murdering him (and you still have to jump through hoops for Harrowmont as usual). Was a little disappointed that not much seems different in Orzammar when you are the king's second child.

[Nazo]

I think for the Dead Caste completion you actually click on some book or tablet in the Shaperate, not talking to the Shaper. I could be wrong, it's been a while.

[Neil Decurio]

leonia42 wrote...

Speaking of the Shaperate, I've had trouble turning in the quest "The Dead Caste", supposedly I should talk to the Shaper and have the Legion of the Dead recognised as a noble house but there are no options for this. As for the Shaper's Life quest, I think I messed it up as well by clicking the runes before the wall, though I never realised I had been given an actual quest (thought it was all just codex stuff).

There are two objects with the name Memories in the Shaperate. The one you want for "The Dead Caste" is a book on the right of the Shaper, named only Memories. I don't think there were any reward associated to this quest though, but it can be why I can 'recruit' Legion of the Dead for the Blight war on the surface. (Do you get that option regardless? As I have never not done that quest before selecting a king.)

On my first playthrough, I didn't actually notice that The Shaper's Life listed under Quest-Related and didn't actively look through my completed quests. This time I want to maximize the potential (as long as I feel morally correct on the choices) and thus I noticed it and that there were no quests that seemed related in Completed or Current quests of the Journal. I tried looking it up on the interwebs as I wrote in my OP, and found one mention of it, stating that you start the quest by clicking on the Wall of Memories inside the Shaperate, then the 3 runes: first at the entrance of Deep Roads, second in a cave of Caridin's Crossing and the third right over the first bridge in the Deep Trenches. Then you should supposedly return to the Shaperate and click the Wall of Memories again to complete and collect your reward (granted there even is one).

My problem was that (I held Tab down in every single area of the game and have been into every crook and cranny from A to Z so far to make sure I don't miss things like this..) Wall of Memories I am 95% sure was not displaying in the Shaperate, before I had found all 3 runestones. I clicked it and the codex entries in a sense reflects that I have completed something, but I never got a quest to start and if there is one, a reward for completing it. Regardless if it needs to be done in order or not, it is bugged because you can click and break the quest, so I would hope it could be patched in at some point. Then again, I am past this point on my 'ultimate' save, so unless they make it flag/complete through a codex check, that also checks if the quest exists in the journal (Current or Completed), I guess the ship's sailed for me to get this quest done on my savefile. Kinda disappointed about that, as I wanted to be a real completionist with this character :-/ (Yes, I'm obsessing much.)

PS: This is the second quest that seems broken in Orzimmar (not counting that if you don't finish up stuff with Bhelen, if you side with Harrowmont, that you can't complete the first quest from his second-in-command and that it will stay unresolved even after you kill both Bhelen and his followers).. The Shaper's Life and The Golem Registry (wich doesn't provide an reward (at least on PC version), even though the dialogue says he is going to give you a ancient relic) are making my completionist senses twitch. Also dislike that after I helped Zerlinda into the Chantry, she spawns there with a "I have a quest" icon over her head.. although (at least pre-Landsmeet) she has no quest to give.. But at least I could pick her pockets for 3G.

Modifié par Neil Decurio, 25 novembre 2009 - 08:22 .

[Neil Decurio]

I updated my original post and changed the topic title to reflect it, with questions if anyone knows something related to the following quote (from my OP):

At Redcliffe Castle, there is a object that you can click for the codex entry "A Rolled-up Note" wich also lists under the Journal Codex as Quest-Related, again leading me to believe there is supposedly a quest that should initiate or that there are something related to it someplace else after finding it (or that something you find prior to it should conclude the quest on finding that note, etc.)..

In short, the note tells of a person named Branan, who was born in Rainesfere and about his life and struggles. It ends with something that seems like an request, wich goes like this (bolded parts that struck me as most interesting):

Whoever you are, whatever they've brought you here for, if you leave this place, I hope you'll go to Rainesfere. There is no living remnant of us left there, but you'll find my family all the same. We're stamped onto the earth. We're in the wind that rustles the trees. Tell my family how I died, and I promise you, they'll hear.

It almost sounds like there was supposed to be a map spawn for Rainesfere, but as much as I understand, certain areas has also changed name through time, and I think Teagan or Eamon was also from Rainesfere (pretty sure I read that in one of their codex entries at some point), so I guess Rainesfere can be Redcliffe, or somewhere close to Redcliffe.

I have yet to find anything related though, so if someone has found anything, information would be most welcomed. I guess it could also be a quest that they cut from the game, a future DLC perhaps, or something messed up with the PC version (if it exists on the consoles, there's very little information about it at least on the net).

As an additional thing I considered; Haven cemetary, but didn't find anything by clicking those tombstones (wich are mostly just 'funny' jokes anyways.

Modifié par Neil Decurio, 26 novembre 2009 - 09:06 .

[Neil Decurio]

A tiny update to the above, I found that it was in Teagan's codex entry that Rainesfere is mentioned, saying he holds the bannorn of Rainesfere, a tiny province of Redcliffe's, squeezed between Lake Calenhad and Frostback Mountains.. hmm.. will have to try moving back and forth between those two map points a little and see if it's possible to squeeze out a random encounter.. I don't have my hopes up for it though.

[Neil Decurio]

Added a note about "The Golem Registry" wich at least on the PC version does not give any XP and/or material reward (even though it seems like it should be, and I have read people writing it gives you a runestone, I can guarantee my game does no such thing).

Another quest related to the Shaperate, is "The Golem Registry", wich when handed in does not give any XP or reward at all. It seems to be bugged, as the Shaper does say he hopes I will like the ancient relic from their archives. Have postponed handing this quest in, in hopes that it will get patched eventually.

[DarknessMessiah]

dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Codex_Entry:_The_Shaper%27s_Life
In the right corner it says what you've got to do

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/47/index/418460/2#446936
BIOWARE representative informing that there is no quest related to the "Rolled-up Note"

[CptPatch]

Neil Decurio wrote...

Added a note about "The Golem Registry" wich at least on the PC version does not give any XP and/or material reward (even though it seems like it should be, and I have read people writing it gives you a runestone, I can guarantee my game does no such thing).

Another quest related to the Shaperate, is "The Golem Registry", wich when handed in does not give any XP or reward at all. It seems to be bugged, as the Shaper does say he hopes I will like the ancient relic from their archives. Have postponed handing this quest in, in hopes that it will get patched eventually.

Every time I gave the registry to the Shaper, he says, "Take this..."  However, never does it show that something has been added to Inventory, nor is there any new (yellow-framed) new items to be found there.

Seems like soooo many other things (e.g., the Dwarven Merchant's belt), BioWare never bothered to do the necessary tweak to rectify the situation.  (Too busy trying to finish Awakening by March I guess.)