daqs wrote...
For an extremely broad definition of the word "identical"...GodWood wrote...
Identical to how the protheans were portrayed in the ME1 beacons.
Never mind that the visions themselves are not internally consistent as to the sort of beings that are depicted.
Modifié par mauro2222, 24 février 2012 - 03:22 .
BentOrgy wrote...
Armass81 wrote...
I can explain why they dont look like the statues, theres actually couple of reasons given by Javik the Prothean himself, the other one is more logical given the visions. If you wanna know PM me.
Bah, I have the script myself, and his "Reason," doesn't give reason why a *Certain* Prothean should or shouldn't look like the Statues. If anything, it supports it, considering what Ilos was and what they were woriking on, and who was in charge of such technology.
Its fairly obvious that in ME1, the Protheans were tentacle faced, lanky, and bald. It probably wasn;t until ME3's production that they decided to go cpmpletely insane and make "Javrik," a Collector look-a-like. The quotes are there because, to my knowlege, that name was only mentioned once, in a speperate draft of the script, the same draft that had the Engineer's powers the same as a Vanguards.
Modifié par Armass81, 24 février 2012 - 03:26 .
Modifié par mauro2222, 24 février 2012 - 03:23 .
fields?tetrisblock4x1 wrote...
Mass Effect.
No, I mean visually. Look at the stills from the vision - different frames show clearly different creatures.mauro2222 wrote...
Prothean beacon with a prothean message for the prothean empire...
This is a huskified Inusannon (sic I believe). I'm guessing it could be explained that the image is simply a CGI re-creation of what current species assume that the statues (heavily damaged over time) looked like (sort of like how we assumed dinosaurs were reptilians, only to find out they may have had feathers and looked more like birds), only huskified. You can still see that the husk in this picture has some of its original facial tentacles, like the statues, underneath those tubes going into its mouth. It's very plausible to think, since they hadn't known before, that the statues were statues of Protheans, rather than of a race that lived on Ilos long before.AxisEvolve wrote...
jasonxxsatanna wrote...
EastSideryda wrote...
Sheeit, I wanna know who those guys are.Which are part of the retcon, those statues are of the race before the Protheans.
Inusannon.
Modifié par BlahDog, 24 février 2012 - 03:30 .
Armass81 wrote...
BentOrgy wrote...
Armass81 wrote...
I can explain why they dont look like the statues, theres actually couple of reasons given by Javik the Prothean himself, the other one is more logical given the visions. If you wanna know PM me.
Bah, I have the script myself, and his "Reason," doesn't give reason why a *Certain* Prothean should or shouldn't look like the Statues. If anything, it supports it, considering what Ilos was and what they were woriking on, and who was in charge of such technology.
Its fairly obvious that in ME1, the Protheans were tentacle faced, lanky, and bald. It probably wasn;t until ME3's production that they decided to go cpmpletely insane and make "Javrik," a Collector look-a-like. The quotes are there because, to my knowlege, that name was only mentioned once, in a speperate draft of the script, the same draft that had the Engineer's powers the same as a Vanguards.
Id say his reason is a convenient loophole for the retcon they made.
Alex06 wrote...
This is a huskified Inusannon (sic I believe). I'm guessing it could be explained that the image is simply a CGI re-creation of what current species assume that the statues (heavily damaged over time) looked like (sort of like how we assumed dinosaurs were reptilians, only to find out they may have had feathers and looked more like birds), only huskified. You can still see that the husk in this picture has some of its original facial tentacles, like the statues, underneath those tubes going into its mouth. It's very plausible to think, since they hadn't known before, that the statues were statues of Protheans, rather than of a race that lived on Ilos long before.AxisEvolve wrote...
jasonxxsatanna wrote...
EastSideryda wrote...
Sheeit, I wanna know who those guys are.Which are part of the retcon, those statues are of the race before the Protheans.
Inusannon.
Modifié par Armass81, 24 février 2012 - 03:37 .
daqs wrote...
No, I mean visually. Look at the stills from the vision - different frames show clearly different creatures.mauro2222 wrote...
Prothean beacon with a prothean message for the prothean empire...
What's wrong with the head on the alien on the left? It looks like its head got blow off, or at least, a huge chunk of it. Unless that is a huge mouth...Which makes me think it looks like abstract art meant to vaguely represent something alive, not an actual living creature, to be fair. The one on the right reminds me of the Luminoth in Metroid Prime 2.GodWood wrote...
It's simple. Bioware retconned their appearance.
Hm...Actually, that makes sense. The Protheans were an empire, with tons of "subraces".Armass81 wrote...
Alex06 wrote...
This is a huskified Inusannon (sic I believe). I'm guessing it could be explained that the image is simply a CGI re-creation of what current species assume that the statues (heavily damaged over time) looked like (sort of like how we assumed dinosaurs were reptilians, only to find out they may have had feathers and looked more like birds), only huskified. You can still see that the husk in this picture has some of its original facial tentacles, like the statues, underneath those tubes going into its mouth. It's very plausible to think, since they hadn't known before, that the statues were statues of Protheans, rather than of a race that lived on Ilos long before.AxisEvolve wrote...
jasonxxsatanna wrote...
EastSideryda wrote...
Sheeit, I wanna know who those guys are.Which are part of the retcon, those statues are of the race before the Protheans.
Inusannon.
There one problem with this explanation, just a tiny little thing. The beacon vision, that shows the same things. And the vision is a warning of the protheans being invaded by reapers, so why is there inusannon in prothean beacon visions?
*Spoilers*
Theres another explanation given by Javik, that is more logical. These beings are protheans, but they are not the original protheans. Javik belongs to the race that was the original protheans, the dominant ones, the conquerors.
Indeed on that last part.SealKudos wrote...
I'm not the only one who thinks the old Protheans are really creepy-looking, right...?
But
on a serious note, it's a retcon. I'm not too annoyed at it, because
there was enough mystery surrounding the whole thing to make a retcon
less shocking.
Modifié par Alex06, 24 février 2012 - 03:41 .
Armass81 wrote...
Alex06 wrote...
This is a huskified Inusannon (sic I believe). I'm guessing it could be explained that the image is simply a CGI re-creation of what current species assume that the statues (heavily damaged over time) looked like (sort of like how we assumed dinosaurs were reptilians, only to find out they may have had feathers and looked more like birds), only huskified. You can still see that the husk in this picture has some of its original facial tentacles, like the statues, underneath those tubes going into its mouth. It's very plausible to think, since they hadn't known before, that the statues were statues of Protheans, rather than of a race that lived on Ilos long before.AxisEvolve wrote...
jasonxxsatanna wrote...
EastSideryda wrote...
Sheeit, I wanna know who those guys are.Which are part of the retcon, those statues are of the race before the Protheans.
Inusannon.
There one problem with this explanation, just a tiny little thing. The beacon vision, that shows the same things. And the vision is a warning of the protheans being invaded by reapers, so why is there inusannon in prothean beacon visions?
*Spoilers*
Theres another explanation given by Javik, that is more logical. These beings are protheans, but they are not the original protheans. Javik belongs to the race that was the original protheans, the dominant ones, the conquerors.
Modifié par BentOrgy, 24 février 2012 - 03:44 .
Gabey5 wrote...
the first one is a husk, the second is a collector ie heavily genetically engineered to the point where it is no longer a prothean
Alex06 wrote...
What's wrong with the head on the alien on the left? It looks like its head got blow off, or at least, a huge chunk of it. Unless that is a huge mouth...Which makes me think it looks like abstract art meant to vaguely represent something alive, not an actual living creature, to be fair.GodWood wrote...
It's simple. Bioware retconned their appearance.
No, they don't.mauro2222 wrote...
They look the same.
daqs wrote...
No, they don't.mauro2222 wrote...
They look the same.
First picture shows somewhat stylized bipedal humanoids with clearly defined hands. No tentacles on the face. No claws. Very vanilla.
Second picture shows the upper (?) body of another being with two (?) arms, a weird-looking head, and tentacles emanating from said head. The being also has claws instead of hands with fingers, although it does seem to possess opposable thumbs. There may be another being grasping the lower portion of the first being's body, but it's unclear; that might also be a leg structure or clothing of some kind.
Third picture shows a being that may be similar to the second picture's depiction, but the second picture's body is not well defined enough to give a very good answer. Again, the tentacle head clashes sharply with the beings depicted in the first picture. This being's tentacles are also not located in the same place on the head, although they're not so far away that it makes a meaningful difference.
Durgon Ironfist wrote...
Humans has made statues of dragons, great beasts, gods, Cthulhu esc monsters. You're questioning another species ability to depict something other than themselves? Ohhh btw those where the original inhabitants of Ilos, not the original prothean species.
Durgon Ironfist wrote...
Humans has made statues of dragons, great beasts, gods, Cthulhu esc monsters. You're questioning another species ability to depict something other than themselves? Ohhh btw those where the original inhabitants of Ilos, not the original prothean species.
The statues could have been representations of their gods. If the message showed gods being slain by these reapers, then the protheans may have gotten the point that these things mean business.mauro2222 wrote...
Durgon Ironfist wrote...
Humans has made statues of dragons, great beasts, gods, Cthulhu esc monsters. You're questioning another species ability to depict something other than themselves? Ohhh btw those where the original inhabitants of Ilos, not the original prothean species.
The statues? Maybe... but the visions show the same creature, and the vision is an emergency video of protheans dying.
BentOrgy wrote...
Durgon Ironfist wrote...
Humans has made statues of dragons, great beasts, gods, Cthulhu esc monsters. You're questioning another species ability to depict something other than themselves? Ohhh btw those where the original inhabitants of Ilos, not the original prothean species.
Yeah, we know the Inusannon inhabited Ilos first, but there's nothing yet that specifically says that the Statues are them. The idea that they are stylized versions of Gods is merely fan-based speculation, and also has no actual foundation.
*Spoilers for ME3*
There's also "Fact," that says that the Statues are of one of the Assimilated Races the True Protheans took in, regardless of how retconned that is.
Please make sure that your opinions sound like opinions, and not fact.
As far as I remember the art book does no such thing.squee365 wrote...
Yep. and if you got that swanky new art book, they actually explain why! Wow! Who would've thought theres actually reasoning behind this process? <_<
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