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[TehJumpingJawa]

They synergize so well that I feel like I'm cheating when I chain spam it through every enemy in sight

The only time I find I need to use a gun is to take down those damn biotic immune guardians.

[HolyAvenger]

Yep carry a pistol for max recharge, then charge+nova everything in sight.

[Hiero Glyph]

For Guardians, charge then shoot their exposed head and body. Also, make sure you have support from your team even as a Vangaurd and always go for the objective or protect your teammates. There is nothing worse than a Vanguard that thinks they can do everything alone, especially on Silver or Gold.

[UK Wildcat]

Best thing in the game is watching the vanguard on your team on gold get executed 500 yards away.

[Jestina]

Hiero Glyph wrote...
There is nothing worse than a Vanguard that thinks they can do everything alone, especially on Silver or Gold.

I don't  need a gun cuz I can just charge and spam nova. Oh no's why I dead and no one coming to rez me.

[Phatose]

On the other hand, a Vanguard who knows how to play as a member of a team is beautiful, especially if paired up with Stasis-spamming Asari adept.

Not for me though - I seem to just get killed all the time.

[Saturn706]

Hiero Glyph wrote...
 There is nothing worse than a Vanguard that thinks they can do everything alone, especially on Silver or Gold.

I don't recall infiltrators, sentinels, soldiers, etc being able to warp across the map like we do. Being a Maguard is a risky job. If you have a Manguard, you'll do good. If you have a Vanguard, however... I can't say the same.

[Saturn706]

Phatose wrote...

On the other hand, a Vanguard who knows how to play as a member of a team is beautiful, especially if paired up with Stasis-spamming Asari adept.

Not for me though - I seem to just get killed all the time.

ADEPTS<3 MY BEST FRIEND 
I love when they use stasis. The biotic explosion sounds GLORIOUS

[Jestina]

Phatose wrote...
Not for me though - I seem to just get killed all the time.

Takes abit of practice. What you mainly should try to focus on is trying to hone up on your situational awareness skills and instincts, knowing when the situation is good for a charge and when it is not. Quick thinking helps too.

[Hiero Glyph]

Saturn706 wrote...

Hiero Glyph wrote...
 There is nothing worse than a Vanguard that thinks they can do everything alone, especially on Silver or Gold.

I don't recall infiltrators, sentinels, soldiers, etc being able to warp across the map like we do. Being a Maguard is a risky job. If you have a Manguard, you'll do good. If you have a Vanguard, however... I can't say the same.

Typical response.  There is a huge difference in being able to clear an area that your team is watching and going off all alone where no one else can support you.  Besides, because the Vanguard is able to charge enemies from a distance this allows them to protect their team from the front and back.  The worst Vanguards are the ones that think they are too good to sit in the objective and help their team complete it quickly.  The faster the objective is completed the more credits and experience the team gets.  There is a reason why everyone gets the same score at the end of the mission.

[Saturn706]

Hiero Glyph wrote...


Typical response.  There is a huge difference in being able to clear an area that your team is watching and going off all alone where no one else can support you.  Besides, because the Vanguard is able to charge enemies from a distance this allows them to protect their team from the front and back.  The worst Vanguards are the ones that think they are too good to sit in the objective and help their team complete it quickly.  The faster the objective is completed the more credits and experience the team gets.  There is a reason why everyone gets the same score at the end of the mission.

Typical response from you too! lol 
"
 The faster the objective is completed the more credits and experience the team gets"

Can't do this if your team is dead! LOL 
Manguards draw LOADS of aggro. That SAME aggro that would normally get a team killed on silver/gold! 
I've helped teams so much when there is NO ENEMIES occupying the objectives.

>clearly doesn't recognize a Manguards role as a tank.

>clearly only plays with dumb, weak Vanguards!

We have the option to go off on our own. That's the beauty of the risk. It's not necessarily a stupid risk either if you have the appropriate build!

[Charlie2417]

I play my Vanguard with multi-hit Charge, 15% cooldown boost on Nova and a fast recharge Shockwave as the basic skillset. The rest I dump into passive boosts to get more tanking abilities and am considering getting Pierce.

I use a scope hand cannon so my %weight remains very high (194%+). Shockwave is used to hold corridors or stun Guardians so I can shoot them in the head.

Charge/Nova comes into play once defenses are stripped, charge in and wreak havoc.

[D.Kain]

Saturn706 wrote...

Typical response from you too! lol 
"
 The faster the objective is completed the more credits and experience the team gets"

Can't do this if your team is dead! LOL 
Manguards draw LOADS of aggro. That SAME aggro that would normally get a team killed on silver/gold! 
I've helped teams so much when there is NO ENEMIES occupying the objectives.

>clearly doesn't recognize a Manguards role as a tank.

>clearly only plays with dumb, weak Vanguards!

We have the option to go off on our own. That's the beauty of the risk. It's not necessarily a stupid risk either if you have the appropriate build!

I do exactly the same lol. Only with an Asari adept. =)

She can hold her own, and keep half the agro when other 3 people keep the other half. I always go to the other side of the map and flank enemies.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Jestina wrote...

Hiero Glyph wrote...
There is nothing worse than a Vanguard that thinks they can do everything alone, especially on Silver or Gold.

I don't  need a gun cuz I can just charge and spam nova. Oh no's why I dead and no one coming to rez me.

In Vanguard's defense. Charge does tend to hiccup much like it did in ME2. A number of times I have a perfect sight line, no obstacles in my way and Charge just will not activate when I hit Y.

[HolyAvenger]

Yeah that's so frustrating- your health is running rapidly low and you need to freaking charge and the stupid ability won't lock and work as I frantically hti that 1 key over and over!

[Jestina]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...
In Vanguard's defense. Charge does tend to hiccup much like it did in ME2. A number of times I have a perfect sight line, no obstacles in my way and Charge just will not activate when I hit Y.

The charge fail bug has happened to me too so I guess it is on both pc and console.

[darkblade]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

Jestina wrote...

Hiero Glyph wrote...
There is nothing worse than a Vanguard that thinks they can do everything alone, especially on Silver or Gold.

I don't  need a gun cuz I can just charge and spam nova. Oh no's why I dead and no one coming to rez me.

In Vanguard's defense. Charge does tend to hiccup much like it did in ME2. A number of times I have a perfect sight line, no obstacles in my way and Charge just will not activate when I hit Y.

oh so i dont suck and didnt mis judge the situations...charge just didnt work......

[Fenix Hero]

Ehh, I find Vanguards somewhat anti-fun in the Bronze Levels and sometimes Silver. If they are bad they steal your kills and get killed, if they are good they just plain steal all the kills. I know its a team game but it is quite frustrating trying to get to your Rage mode on a Krogan and having a Vanguard come and steal all your kills with a charge. Not to mention they are over-populated. The Vanguard goes Baaaa

[dw99027]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Yep carry a pistol for max recharge, then charge+nova everything in sight.

The difference between 3 and 3.5 sec cooldown on Charge is not that big a deal if you have your rolls down pat and the reflexes to quickly acquire new targets. 3.5 sec cooldown and a single Mattock X is BROKEN.

[TehJumpingJawa]

There are a variety of weapons you can carry while still maintaining +200% cooldown; all SMGs, all but 1 heavy pistol, and even the first assault rifle.

[count_4]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...
In Vanguard's defense. Charge does tend to hiccup much like it did in ME2. A number of times I have a perfect sight line, no obstacles in my way and Charge just will not activate when I hit Y.

This is SO annoying, especially on Gold. 
Charge -> Roll -> perfectly timed Nova -> Charge is ready... and won't activate for no apparent reason -> dead

I hope the devs are able to fix this somehow as it sometimes really ruins the MP experience on higher difficulty. Same goes for some enemies not taking damage after they have been down by a Charge. 


As for the weapons load-out: You can carry an SMG/AR and a Heavy Pistol and still remain at 200% if the weapon levels are high enough. 

Modifié par count_4, 24 février 2012 - 11:30 .

[zr0iq]

You can differentiate between a skilled vanguard and a lunatic the following way:
the skilled one does not block the shooting path of the other teammembers.

the same goes for krogans.

[Bismth]

hello please tell me what is properly specced charge and nova? which route up the power level trees should you take and which weapon?

from the title i thought these things would be discused in this topic

Modifié par Bismth, 24 février 2012 - 12:00 .

[TehJumpingJawa]

This is my setup:

Charge
Nova
Training
Fitness

Equipment

The only thing that kills me in Gold is when I make a mistake and get killed by a turret, grabbed by a robot or on odd occasion impaled by a sword.