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[Adoreal]

 I don't know if anyone else was as naive or I suppose as blind as me, but I agreed with TIM at the end of Mass Effect 2. I chose all the dialogue options that I thought would agree with what TIM was telling me about the Reaper threat and the necessary actions that needed to be taken no matter the cost. The next thing I find out, I'm saying the exact opposite of what I meant, and I'm leaving the room cutting all ties to Cerberus. WHAT?! Why wasn't I given the option to agree and side with TIM, I hated the finger-quoting Council I saved and the Alliance ever since Ashley decided to show up on her high horse.

Does anyone agree with me?

Modifié par Adoreal, 24 février 2012 - 05:08 .

[izmirtheastarach]

Nope. Going to save the galaxy no matter how blind and ostrich-like they are.

[Supersomething]

Meh Sheperd never wanted to go along with Cerberus in the first place even if he agreed with some of Tim's idea's. Regardless of how many choices Bioware gives you in ME the game has a loose bit of Canon involved which you have no control of.

Essentially the only reason you're with Cerberus is because they brought you back to life and they are the only ones during that time frame that are trying to do something to hinder the Reapers. Despite their good intentions their faction as a whole is still pretty evil and is something Shep will not be apart of.

[AquamanOS]

Even if Shepard agreed whole heartedly with the ideals of a pro human Cerberus, Shepard still wants to destroy the Reapers. And Shepard knows that, as much as it annoys him, he can't beat the Reapers with the small handful of Cerberus operatives EDI's info claims are all that exist, and his one ship and crew. So as much as it pisses him off he's got to return to the Alliance, swallow his pride and get them and the Council on his side, if only to bolster his forces and he's planning on having Alliance leaders and the Council killed later on.

Then TIM annouces he's working with the Reapers now, and Shepard's promptly done with Cerberus. Even a Renegade Shep wants the Reapers dead.

[seirhart]

Supersomething wrote...

Meh Sheperd never wanted to go along with Cerberus in the first place even if he agreed with some of Tim's idea's. Regardless of how many choices Bioware gives you in ME the game has a loose bit of Canon involved which you have no control of.

Essentially the only reason you're with Cerberus is because they brought you back to life and they are the only ones during that time frame that are trying to do something to hinder the Reapers. Despite their good intentions their faction as a whole is still pretty evil and is something Shep will not be apart of.

exactly no matter what its painfully obvious that shepard has no desire of working with cereberus temporarily or permeantly. The only reason shepard is temporaility helping cereberus to fight the collectors is because cereberus is the only one willing to do something, as I said above its quite obvious that shepard/tim/cereberus working relationship is temporay.

[G3rman]

Well you are naive and you are stupid. TIM realized that you were just a drone and could care less either way in ME3.

Case closed.

[CommanderCoffee]

I hated TIM. Even his VA says he's a bad man.

[ZDPhoenix]

I bet TIM's end goal for ME2 was acquisition of the Collector's Base; and sole control of the Omega 4 Relay. Not stopping the reapers at all.

The "TIM is outright Neutral Evil" side of me thinks this.

Wipe Out Collectors, Reapers need to find another way back to power; TIM finds a way to contact Harbinger, enlists Cerberus as it's indoctrinated patsies, so that he can find a way to gain control of the reapers; or at the very least... save Cerberus as the life remaining for the next cycle.

[CerberusSoldier]

I support TIM its sad they will turn him into Saren 2.0

[Arppis]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

I support TIM its sad they will turn him into Saren 2.0

I always knew what he was going to be, power hungry guy who talks bullcrap about this "noble goals" (all psychopaths do). Buuuut, I wish he wouldn't be downright working with Reapers either. I'd rather show him how it's done, than having to fight him.

I just think they did what they did with Cerberus in second game to make you feel sympathy with the enemy you are fighting and giving some sort of humanity to the enemies of next game.

[Arthas9]

TIM is the Saruman of ME (a deceiver who betrays everybody after he finds no use of them, and wants all the power only for himself). He tries to manipulate people for his own good, and tries to overpower the reapers by deciveing them too. He offers his and Cerberus' services to them but only for the sole purpose of gaining enough time to find a way to take control over reapers, while they wipe out everything and everybody who could be on the way of totalitarian Cerberus controll later. So he's really ****d up. He only (tried to) used Shepard as a tool finding him a very good asset for achiveing his goal, knowing what Shep's capable of and what he symbolises and that he could be manipulated by his obsession of saving humanity and\\or the rest of the galaxy from the reaper threat. So he is kind of a Mephisto archeotype in the ME universe, a real villain. And lets not forget that he seems to be resistant to indoctrination (based on the comic books).

Modifié par Arthas9, 24 février 2012 - 01:09 .

[Oldbones2]

The Illusive man is a bad guy, and frankly you can tell that just by the things he says and does in the game.

But... he has a lot of good points. Sometimes you do what needs to be done because the alternative is even worse. Sometimes the 'good' choice results in more suffering than the evil choice. That's just real life folks.